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Originally Posted by Dicko7X5
I call bullshit, I’ve never seen any dick pics just some random story about mysterious tribes that practice PE as a tradition. Sound like something some shady PE pay-site would come up with to lure in people with.

That would be my opinion also. Some tribes do practice enlargement, but not for the same reasons we do.


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
That would be my opinion also. Some tribes do practice enlargement, but not for the same reasons we do.

That’s what I was trying to determine, as well. Seems to be the case.

Even if they aren’t doing it for the same reasons we do, if they at least get huge and work that would be incredibly interesting.

I first read about those myths on paysites, back in 2002. Some of the stories were quite extravagant - including that the world “jelq” was Turkic (cjelic). Another version claimed the word had Arabic origins.

At various times over the past 8 years, I’ve searched the net (in vain) for any independent verification of those mysterious “tribes.” I’ve even asked 1 Turk & 2 Arabs I’d known well over the years about the alleged etymology of “jelq.” They looked at me with blank stares, having no idea what the hell I was talking about. :(

It’s a freaking scam, an exotic myth designed to entice more suckers to their paysites.

If you can produce anything - ANYTHING - (reputable) to contradict, please do so! I’d wasted 8 years searching.

I agree with dicko and wadzilla.


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I am moderately fluent in اللغة العربية المعيارية الحديثة (modern standard arabic) and as far as I know there’s no jelq in the language or any of the regional dialects I’ve encountered. There are some “PE” techniques in a few Arab cultures that are essentially the same thing, but I’m pretty confident that the word jelq has no Arabic etymology.

The myth comes from websites like http://www.howtojelq.com that post crap like

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According to some websites, the jelqing technique originated in the Middle East and was allegedly used by Arabic men to enlarge their penises to over 20 inches in length! It’s unlikely that these stories are true and in fact some people say that jelqing is a hoax

The “jelq” thing has been around since at least the seventies when it appeared - surprise surprise - in conjunction with expensive and mostly bogus enlargement manuals sold in porn shops.

And most of the time when people have produced pics of “black tribesmen” to substantiate this belief that there are indigenous peoples who have The Secret, it’s almost always a picture of a Sadhu (who are Asian Indian, not African.) It might be the dreads many of them wear that confuses people.

Incidentally, Sadhus are also responsible for many practices, like the bed of nails & walking on hot coals, that’ve been co-opted by stage magicians and self-help movements in recent times. Given that they’re ascetic though it’s important to remember that their extreme dick-stretching practices make them functionally - and permanently - impotent.

Originally Posted by wadzilla
At various times over the past 8 years, I’ve searched the net (in vain) for any independent verification of those mysterious “tribes.” I’ve even asked 1 Turk & 2 Arabs I’d known well over the years about the alleged etymology of “jelq.”

Originally Posted by jarvis
I am moderately fluent in اللغة العربية المعيارية الحديثة (modern standard arabic) and as far as I know there’s no jelq in the language or any of the regional dialects I’ve encountered. There are some “PE” techniques in a few Arab cultures that are essentially the same thing, but I’m pretty confident that the word jelq has no Arabic etymology.

I’ve read a post from you, wadzilla, where you mentioned that before. As I study languages as a hobby (who knew I had a life outside PE, haha), I might add something beneficial:

Although I’m quite sure the word is neither Arabic nor Turkish, neither your (jarvis) nor wadzilla’s friends’ ideas would be able to confirm or deny it. The reason I believe its probably not from the area is because of the complete lack of archeological evidence to mention it (and it would be something mentioned - for example, the Ancient Egyptians did hang, and researchers found this interesting to note).

The reason an Arab or non-Arab Arabic speaker would not know is because, even if it was originally Arabic, first, the technique is no longer known in the region in its entirety (so the word would also have died out, if it was there in the first place). Second, and most importantly, assuming that jelqing is actually derived from an Arabic word, it would not actually have been “jelq.” It would probably hold so little a resemblance to the original word that an Arab or Arabic-speaker would not even notice.

An example of what I mean of having little resemblance is the word algebra, which comes from the Arabic word الجبر (pronounced: al-jebir). If mathematical algebra had died out in the Arabic region (as jelqing supposedly did), a normal Arab who didn’t know the word may not recognize which word it came from. The closest other Arabic word would be جبر which means forcefulness, roughly.

There are tons of English words with Arabic origins, some more recognizable to Arabic speakers than others. For example, admiral comes from the word امير البحر, which literally translates into captain or commander of the seas. Alchemy comes from كيمياء which is still used in the Arabic language, simply meaning chemistry. Magazine comes from مخازين (ask an Arabic speaker if magazine sounds Arabic to him - he wouldn’t recognize it, although the other word is used often and means storage house). Safari comes from the word سفر, which is the Arabic word for travelling. The list goes on and on…and these are just words that are CURRENTLY used in Arabic and are still unrecognizable in their English form.

The word jelq does sound fairly Arabic to me, not as Turkish or Persian. Without archeological records and knowing the sexual modesty encouraged through Islam during the time that the Arab world spread most of its ideas to the West, I doubt it was actually an Arabic technique.


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Originally Posted by Dicko7X5
I can’t really tell his size, but that to me looks more like extreme foreskin stretching.

Even the giant rock hanging on his shaft which hits the tunica and ligaments? I do the same thing only with weights and it works.

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
LV,

So what, like the archeologists would find Arabic lube bottles buried in the sand? Or a stone tablet with an OK grip diagram carved on it? ;)

Sorry, I seem to have miswritten that. I meant anthropologists in general.

What would have happened is, if this technique did exist among the Arabs, it would have existed after what is called the “Hijrah,” which is the beginning of modern Arab history, approximately 1400 years ago. Before then, the Arabs were extremely primitive nomadic tribes. Anyway, after the Hijrah, the Arabs had a somewhat unusual tradition of recording almost anything of note historically. They recorded pre-Hijrah (pre-Islamic) cultural traditions, etc. as well as almost anything that occurred post-Hijrah. They were obsessive about documenting everything that occurred around them. Arabic historic works such as that of Al-Tabari could cover a couple of centuries in over 10 volumes.

The point is that none of this was every, in the slightest bit, noted. That’s what makes me quite sure it was not an Arab practice, rather than the etymology of the word.

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
So they should have a killer sex manual laying about someplace then?

Not exactly, but there should be some trace of its existence, I think. Much more likelihood of that then finding Egyptian hieroglyphics depicting Pharaohs hanging, correct? They compulsively noted their history.

All I’m saying is that I don’t think its Arabic for this reason, not because of the etymology of the word. I’m not trying to convince anyone that it’s not Arabic, but I am trying to show that no one could know that through the word on its on (as Wadzilla and jarvis thought might be possible).

Originally Posted by jarvis

…. There are some “PE” techniques in a few Arab cultures that are essentially the same thing, ….

This seems more related to the main point. Do you have any source?

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