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The CDS and girth before length?


Go to, click on the Images link, then enter “cervix fornix” (there is also a fornix in the brain, not the same thing, but if your penis
can reach that, you wouldn’t be here).


(12/5/2008) BPEL: 7.75" EG: 5.75" BSFL: 8.1" FL: 5" FG 4.25"||New Goal: NBPEL: 8" EG: 6"

Technique: 95% Wet Jelqing, 5% Low Vacuum Pumping

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I compared most of the well known sites that use ADS devices, and reading between the lines, lying and distortion, I think more force does produce more gains even within the ADS ranges (as opposed to stretching/jelqing). The force needed for a regular penis only seems to be 1-2lbs tops, and although I can see a scenario where a larger penis would need exponentially higher poundages to continue rapid growth, I still feel that 2-3lbs would be very effective for almost anyone.

Imho, with a low tension approach it’s only about getting enough force to cause tissue creep, and not necessarily enough to damage the fibres. That said, I believe stretching followed by ADS will out perform either method alone, not least because to a degree it removes the gamble of whether healing is in a compressed or expanded state. Time to start wearing warm baggiy pants and go freeballing :)

If you are interested to know where the fornix is…..

All information here is from my cow Bessy. The opinions and posts are hers and not mine. I just do the typing for her because we all know cows cant type. Fieldmouse :iws:

As fieldmouse’s link shows, it’s located at the end of the vagina. How deep that is varies among women just like length varies among men. Kojack10 has done much research on this and I need to do a search on his threads to see what he arrived at. When a woman becomes totally aroused her vagina expands. It’s said to take 20 minutes of her being aroused before the cervix tents (moves out of the way) and her vagina deepens. To me, this is a clear indication women do really desire more length when completely aroused. It makes sense that if her cervix is moving out of the way so that he can reach beyond it, then she is not feelingless deep inside like sex experts try to claim. There are plenty of guys, though not all, reporting that being able to get into the fornix has had very positive effects on women—-stronger orgasms, vaginal orgasms when she couldn’t before, intense facial expressions and/or vocals.

Though I need girth more, I’m going for length goal first. I’m not willing to take a chance on hindering my length gains. Thankfully, some girth gains tend to occur while working for length. I’m willing to look like a pine tree first, and then turn it into a mighty oak. Whatever it takes to be 10 bpel x 6.5 g. That can live in the fornix at will (perhaps not with a very small percentage of very deep women, especially taking into account all of 10 may not be in her), and scrub the g spot and clitoris steadily (except with some very loose women). A drawback from having that much length is grinding during intercourse will be impossible with some/many women. Another drawback is having to be careful not to go full steam ahead pumping her, at least not until she hollars for it :D .

Last edited by beenthere : 10-24-2004 at .


With at 10” BPEL, you’ll be hitting the CDS of most farm animals. You might want to test out the effects on homo sapiens before hitting that goal.

I don’t think 10” is quite as outragous as it seems. Keep in mind this is bp. Nbp will be about 9”, and while this site may need to be read with a bit of salt, if this site page can to be trusted there are more women that can deal with it than may be thought. It does explain women going after the big one after they have heard about him. If he is way too long, then why would they be so interested?


You’re your own worst enemy. I’d recommend never going to again!

I don’t know how big you are now, but really I think you’ll be happy at around 8” BPEL, and while you could work for 10, I wouldn’t worry so much.

Some have reported hitting the CDS at 7” BPEL, which must be the lower limit. I did sometimes, with the right position get there at 7.25” BPEL with one girl. With another I was 7.75” BPEL and it was seconds before orgasm that I got a rush of blood down there, and suddenly realised I’d managed it with her too. That was one hell of a mutual orgasm.


I appreciate your concern. I do realise this stuff tends to get overplayed by men, especially me. The fact is it doesn’t matter as much to most women. However, just it mattering some is enough for me to care. :)

“…you’ll be happy with 8 bpel…” :morose:
(Still a very good size though).

I see your final goal is 9” bpel. If I can reach that I would be very happy of course. It’s not like I wouldn’t be estatic at that length, because I would; but knowing myself if I then thought I could make it to 10 I would continue.


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