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But most guys here make the guys with the sweet gains not post pics. You forget with every incredible claim of size be it length or girth, most guys here either scream shopped or bad measuring. Also, what is said guy did not take starting pics? No one ever takes that into account. So why is it so hard to give someone the benefit of the doubt?


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No doubt there are those that fall in to the categories you mention. It’s not hard to give someone the benefit of the doubt. But everyone?

You would think that out of all those making such claims, just 1 of those guys would have convincing before and after shots. Don’t get me wrong

I want to believe it’s possible just like everyone else. I just think the proof is kind of like Bigfoot. There are lots of stories and a few fuzzy shots,

but nothing very convincing


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Originally Posted by Phyriel

BTW bad measuring is something very important, after all there a lot of 6” girth in here, but I bet that most of these six 6” girth’s are all different from one to one.

Well yeah, cause CC and CS sizes are different. can remember a guy whose girth was smaller than mine yet he was a lot wider than me.


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Originally Posted by Iguana

No doubt there are those that fall in to the categories you mention. It’s not hard to give someone the benefit of the doubt. But everyone?

You would think that out of all those making such claims, just 1 of those guys would have convincing before and after shots. Don’t get me wrong

I want to believe it’s possible just like everyone else. I just think the proof is kind of like Bigfoot. There are lots of stories and a few fuzzy shots,

but nothing very convincing

You have a point. That is why I think members should post at least one pic throughout the stay here.


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Everyone has made some great points in this thread (especially Wad and ModestoMan).

I enjoy this topic: Why aren’t more guys reporting big gains? Wadzilla, you particularly hit the nail on the head, in my opinion, when you made this statement:

Originally Posted by wad
As we progress, not only do gains become tougher, but our desire also flags because of the very gains that we’ve made; and further gains become exponentially tougher. This is a very real factor - it starkly happened to me also

I also agree with Sunshine here:

Originally Posted by sunshinekid
There have been some really big gainers here over the years, those gains are documented. Stillwantmore had a huge flaccid (and yes, I knew him too), how much bigger that got erect is hard to say. I think alot of our pioneers left because they got sick and tired of having to defend every word that came out of their mouths to the “non-believers” of the board. And it wasn’t that the “non-believers” didn’t think PE would work, they didn’t believe what our gainers were saying.

Think about how you would feel if you had to defend every little thing you said here.

Exactly. I’ve talked to a few men who don’t openly discuss their gains because they don’t have the time, nor the desire, to sit there and argue with half the forum. I don’t blame them. In most cases, there’s no way of proving it. Why? Because the fact is, most guys don’t take good pre-PE pictures. For most men, there’s really no reason to. They already have so much to worry about (i.e. how to PE, what to do, not breaking their cock, etc); taking a standard BP measurement pic is really the last thing on most beginner’s minds.

Also, it’s common belief that the “easy gainers” would post just as much, or more than, the non-easy gainers. IMO, there’s no logic in this and it’s really the other way around. Think about why most people go to a forum. Not just this forum, but any forum. It’s for help. That’s always been my case. I’m lost, confused, and stuck… So where can I find some help? Someone on a forum might have some answers. And when it comes to PE, who needs the most help:

1) Beginners who are unwilling to look up the necessary PE info themselves
2) Guys who aren’t gaining
3) Guys who injured themselves

Let’s take a look at these three groups, and why they don’t constitute the average of all men who PE.

1) Beginners who are unwilling to look up the necessary PE info themselves
Clearly laziness is lacking here. If they were motivated, or dedicated, they would do a simple search and find everything they need. The simple fact they are asking the question “How do I Jelq” shows that they most likely don’t have what it takes to make it to the 2” mark.

2) Guys who aren't gaining
We can probably all agree that there are 4 different types of gainers:
Easy gainers for both L X G
Easy gainers for just length, but hard gainers for girth
Easy gainers for just girth, but hard gainers for length
Hard Gainers for both L X G

Put yourself in the shoes of a new guy who is a hard gainer. You come onto the forum. You read about people gaining big. You think to yourself, oh, I can gain big too. Then you don’t. What’s the first thing you do? You assume, sometimes rightfully, something is wrong. So you sign up to the forum to start asking questions. In the case of some of us (ModestoMan, etc), this is where I think we get hooked. We try to find out why were not gaining like we should, and over a course of time, our questions turn into doubts.

Then put yourself in the shoes of an easy gainer. You’re gaining. What’s there to post about? Unless you want to spread the good word, to help other men, or to get into the PE business, there’s really no reason to stick around. This is, without a doubt, a choice some men make. Why would they not post on the forum? My guess is time. They’re already spending a lot of time PEing, they might not have the time, nor the desire, to type. Hell, some men hate typing. So they spend their time doing other things than post on a PE forum.

3) Guys who injured themselves
The injury forum. Here, in my opinion, is where we will find the best representation of the entire PE community. Why? Because easy gainers and hard gainers alike can injure themselves. And they both will need help if it does occur. When reading through lots of injury threads, I recall a few times reading about guys who made good gains but weren’t necessarily big posters. Similarly, I’ve remember reading accounts of a few guys who didn’t post much at all, but signed online to report they hit their goal. My guess is that some guys don’t even sign online to do that.

As an ending note, my views might be subject to bias, as I’ve made extra efforts to seek out guys who’ve made good gains.


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Also, I’m going to have a closer look at the PE survey results to see if I can come up with an average gains/time frame.


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Originally Posted by Iguana
This is something I have always wondered about. I don’t think there is ANY (unaltered/believable) photographic evidence on this board of ANYONE
showing huge gains. I mean someone going from 5” to 9” or even 5” to 8.” Almost all photo trails show gains in the 1” -2” range. Even the early pioneers such as YGUY only showed a portion of his claimed gains. And he’s probably the most believable out of them all. Is there one photo of someone showing a 3”+ gain? Just one??

Well, maybe there is an explanation. Lets say, I started PEing at 6”, back in 2002/2003 , in another free PEing site, so, back then I was not interested in keeping a photographic record of my gains, I was more into see if the claims and routines in that PEing site work at all, then, what do you know! I gained .5” in less than 2 months! And, like many others around here, I stopped after my girl back then told me “you stud! you are getting so big it hurts!” (she was pettite, and she didn’t knew about my PE). Didn’t do any maintenance routine, so I lost .25”. Then after a while I lost another .125” My “cemented” gains were only .125”.

There I am, a 6.125” stud ;) . then I joined another PEing forum. Started all over again, gained a solid .125” So, my total gains back then were .25” not bad, not bad at all. So, after a while , I joined Thunder’s. Realize that there is a Pictures Section, looked around, and realize (again) that a good pic will help to document my gains. Then I saw a pic of a guy with a soda can on his dick’s side. Quite impresive, quite inspiring, and thought, “maybe if I took a pic of my unit with a product/item that you can find all over the world, I will be more specific about my gains”. I was quite a noob, so, don’t blame me :D .

I took my first picture with a cd case on my side and upper side, bone pressed, of course. My first web cam was kind of cheesy, bad image, but still I manage to get a clean and nice shot of my unit, with the cd case that I mentioned.

After that, and after a while, I realize that I got to take ruler pics, so ,I can motivate newbies to stick to PEing. (and to proof my gains, of course ;) )

My point: WHEN and IF I hit 9” long, I would know that I gained 3”! But, as you all know and we all have seen, everyone will ask for evidence about my gains. I will pull out my 6.25”ish pic, with a cd case as a reference. And of course I will put my 9” pic, taken with a digital cam, (2003 no camera, then web cam with poor pic quality, and now a digital cam).

And still , with those pics, they will say “Bullshit! you started at 7.75” and you have reach to 9”, so, you have only won 1.25”, liar! burn him! burn him…:cuss: !”

Not everyone minds about getting his first “dick with a ruler pic”, they only mind at first to see if all this information is true, and most of all, if it really works.

I hope I don’t go to gain 3.25” so I can join the 3” club :D


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Originally Posted by ToshkoiMEX

I hope I don’t go to gain 3.25” so I can join the 3” club :D

Eh. That makes no sense.


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Originally Posted by aom91

Eh. That makes no sense.

I started at 6”, but I started my pictures records at 6.25” So, when I hit 9” long, I’ll be joining the 3” club, but, “according” to my picture records, I have to get to 9.25” so I can join the 3” ‘picture proof’ club. Clear now ;) ?


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Ohh I understand now. Dont worry about it, that is my take on it. Post your pics when you want if ever. People can down talk you but whatever. At the end of the day you are the one with the 9.


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I’ve never even seen a photographically documented 2” gain, with the exception of Bennett8.


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I think its really difficult to take a picture of your dick, without knowing the gains might come, before you gained. In my case I already gained over an inch before I took a picture. Some of you might be skeptics, and you should be, for some (just like physical excercise or dieting) PEing doesn’t work as well for one as it may for another. The best way you can truly know is to endure the pains of the process and find out for yourself. Besides, how many newbies are in here reading this thread thinking “O! I should take a picture now before I gain so that thunders place has a documented photo of actual two inch gains! Brilliant!” People are shy, its simple. I took a picture when I was feeling very confident after I gained. And I still gained more. For people that might be smaller, less confident, cautious, unsure, or PE just isn’t working for them they are not going to want to take a picture right off the back. The kicker is since hardly any one does that it is hard to see photographical proof because for most the biggest gains are the newbie gains which you get from the very beginning!


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Originally Posted by remek
Also, it’s common belief that the “easy gainers” would post just as much, or more than, the non-easy gainers. IMO, there’s no logic in this and it’s really the other way around. Think about why most people go to a forum. Not just this forum, but any forum. It’s for help. That’s always been my case. I’m lost, confused, and stuck…


This is an excellent point that I’d never really thought about. But it makes perfect sense. It reminds me a little about my experience with weight training. When guys would question me about nutrition, for example, I didn’t really know shit about it - because I had never been forced to learn about it. I made quick, huge gains & had a fast metabolism. So, they’d often think I was grudging them about some “secret” that I never really had.

I could see that about some lucky bastard coming here (or to some other forum). He follows a relatively basic routine, makes excellent gains quickly, he’s happy with his new unit, he drifts away. Maybe we never hear a word from him. And maybe he even thinks that everybody makes similar gains.

I would argue that the guys here with the most PE knowledge have probably had the toughest time making gains (not because of their knowledge, of course; but they’d studied it so much to try to help their poor gains). Consequently, an easy gainer here would’ve had no reason to post questions - he did the exercises, they worked, he was satisfied…end of story.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
I’ve never even seen a photographically documented 2” gain, with the exception of Bennett8.


Am I to understand, then, that you don’t believe even a 2-inch gain is possible???

Originally Posted by wadzilla
….Am I to understand, then, that you don’t believe even a 2-inch gain is possible???

Obviously, you included Bennet8. But do you think that a 2” gain is literally that one out of 75,000 members?

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