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Suspensory Ligaments: How Important Are They To Sex?

Originally Posted by zaneblue

On the other hand, an erection pointing up is aesthetically pleasing.

Yes, it looks kind of perky and horny at the same time, eh?


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

I always thought a man wearing an erection around lookes kind of comical. Mrz. G. says God must have a sense of humor because men’s genitals look funny hanging down from behind when we’re bend over. She says we look like a dog in that position. I guess they are kind of funny looking, now that I think about it.

:rolleyes:


2003: 6X5 2010: 7X7

No Nukes

Originally Posted by Big Girtha
However, my urologist is very much against cutting ligs, but she doesn’t have a dick. I myself am still undecided on the matter. 8-ball’s recovery may very well be the deciding factor for me.


Is it because she thinks there’s a meaningful purpose for these ligs, or do you believe she just thinks penis enlargement surgery is not a good thing to do in general?

I have a feeling I’ll eventually get the surgery done. It won’t be anytime real soon, though. I’m not too keen on parting with all that money at the moment, and I too would love to hear about some new “breakthrough” creating even better results/fewer complications.

This suspensory lig/erection angle subject has always been one of several factors that has made me less excited about it though, along with scarring. If the docs have found a way around it then that’s good to know.

Originally Posted by iamaru
Keep in mind that I don’t know this topic. My understanding is that they don’t simply cut all of the liggs. They cut part way through and leave some attachment. The idea is to leave enough to anchor the penis while loosening how firmly attached it is. You then do a routine of hanging post-op.

I gained one inch from hanging, (not a big gainer), and it had no affect on my angle. I still point pretty much 11:00.


I wonder if some of the docs out there are just cutting all the ligs and maybe that’s why the results in their patients show the erect angle pointing at the floor? I’m guessing 8-Ball’s doctor is cutting the way you’re talking about. But then again, if I remember correctly 8-Ball wrote somewhere that his doctor cut them in a way that they wouldn’t reattach, which kind of sounds like they’re completely severed, but who knows. I guess I don’t really understand this whole procedure too well myself.

24,

I’ve never had any surgery. I feel I have to say my erection angle has been lowered significantly through hanging. As far as altering erection angles, I’m not sure that a large increase in total volume comes into play but I have pondered on it.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nine
24,
I’ve never had any surgery. I feel I have to say my erection angle has been lowered significantly through hanging. As far as altering erection angles, I’m not sure that a large increase in total volume comes into play but I have pondered on it.


You mean the additional volume may be weighing it down? As in maybe the additional weight of the external penis versus the now smaller internal penis tips the scale downwards? Interesting. I hadn’t thought of that.

I also wonder if maybe you’ve stretched your ligs to the degree that they provide as little suspensory support as a clipped one?

It’s interesting to know that your hanging has lowered your erection angle, because if the great gains you’ve achieved stretching the ligs produces the same lowered erection angle as actually cutting the ligs then that’s something else to take into consideration with regards to surgery.

Check Grays Anatomy

24 Hours:

Doc feels that the ligs are there for a reason and should not be cut. She is also against the surgery except for extreme cases of microphallas. She is a surgeon herself and performs all sorts of testicular surgery, but does not do phalloplasty.

Somewhere on the forum is a very good diagram of a cross section of the suspensory and fundiform ligaments. I think it was taken from Grays Anatomy. Try a search. The ligaments are bands made up of many cord-like fibers. From what I understand only a small section of the suspensory ligs are cut away leaving the bands that go around the sides and the ventral side are left in tact. The part of the ligs that wraps underneath the urethra is left untouched. I’m sure 8-ball could explain this better, but that diagram is very enlightening. Check it out.


2003: 6X5 2010: 7X7

No Nukes

I had had the surgery done a number of years ago by Dr. Guinta and my erection angle is still around 10:00. His technique at the time was to sever all of the ligaments, move the penis forward and then reattach one of the ligaments (I’m not sure which one) to maintain the erection angle. I think if all of the ligaments were left detached, your erection angle would be lower.

My experience with Dr. Guinta was a negative one and I would not recommend him to anyone seeking this surgery. When considering phalloplasty, the cost of the procedure should be your last consideration, not the first. I firmly believe that phalloplasty has come a long way since it’s inception and will one day be perfected. Strong caution needs to be exercised when choosing a doctor for the procedure.

Originally Posted by 24 Hours
Did the doc tell you before the surgery that there could be a loss of erection angle, or had he said that it wouldn’t change? I had thought that the only thing holding it up at that angle was the suspensory ligament. If it is a myth, then that would be good to know.

My penis angle is still straight up and I can hang articles of clothing from my post-op erect penis.

The idea that a post-op erection will point to the floor is a myth, unless you were that way before surgery.

One of the doctors I visited told me to think of your penis as one of those party toys that unwind and get straight as you blow air into them.

He said the force of the blood and the pressure will make the penis rise when erect. If I were to stand sideways my penis when erect points at about 10 o’clock.

That has barely changed from pre-op.

I had the lengthening done, what the doc said was the angle wont change as dramatically as the stiffness. That was the case with me, slight angle drop but more flexible (certainly not pointing to the floor.) I personally prefer the flexibility because I used to be so high angled and stiff I couldnt have a girl on top facing away for example and now I can… like someone else said I think you’ll get similiar effects from hanging as you loosen the ligs.

BIM

thethickone,

Did you use Alloderm for your girth procedure? I am very curious to hear how it went for you. Are you satisfied with the results?

Yes I had alloderm and now I am about 7 inches erect girth, and 7.5BPEL and gaining all the time with post op physiotherapy. I am getting a second smaller girth enhancement for aesthetic reasons and having doc check to see if I had a reattachment of ligs via scar tissue.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nine
As far as altering erection angles, I’m not sure that a large increase in total volume comes into play but I have pondered on it.

I have wondered about that also, since I’ve always had about a 9:00 erection (even rock-solids) and a fairly big size. But then, I also have a fair amount of flexibility at the exit point, so tunica flexibility may have more to do with it than absolute penis volume.

My penis volume is HUGE. At 6.5 NBP and 7 inch girth it’s huge and it doesn’t droop with all of that volume.

How much erect girth did you gain with the Alloderm procedure? Also, has your penis completely grown into the Alloderm?

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