Secjay, Supra does not claim to have invented anything, just the combination. He does not ever attempt to claim ownership of any of the exercises in the slammer routine. Why don’t you give them a shot… I just did them today for the first time and its the best workout I ever had in 8 months of PE. Supra hasn’t shown this forum or you disrepect, so why dont you give him some respect. I’m sick of you guys always trying to start little fights online it is absolutely ridiculous. We are all here to share knowledge and give each other support.