Stretching and "inner penis" exposed-myth?

I know this has been discussed before but I thought I’d bring it up again. A bit graphic (warning) but I found this comment from the authors very interesting when discussing cutting the ligament to increase length:

“Since the division of the ligament does not change the total length of the corpora bodies, the lengthened penis is actually a penis pulled out from its original
position. This is the reason why the gain in the flaccid state might decrease or even disappear in the erect state, when the erect penis proximate the pubic bone towards its original position. Real increase in the length of the penis is not possible unless the corpora bodies are dissected and grafts are used or if the disassembly technique with the additional use of various tissues, like cartilage is used.”

So does this mean that gain in erect length by somehow forcing part of the “inner penis” to come out via stretching (or surgery) is not possible? I found the paragraph confusing.

They are possible but limited - about 1/2” in FL, 1/4” in EL, on average and if I remember correctly.

Right “the lengthened penis is actually a penis pulled out from its original position”… The reason people are going after “inner penis” gains, is on many of us, several inches of penis is “trapped” along the front face of the pubic bone. If you could release the trapped penis along the pubic bone, it could be useable and one would add it to BPEL length measurement.

I believe what is the case, is that the “three ligs” viewpoint of the penis attachment may be wrong, perhaps there is more tying the “inner penis” to the pubic bone that needs to be addressed.

I think they’re saying that by pulling out the inner penis, more penis is exposed outside of the body, making it look like a bigger penis when in fact it hasn’t been enlarged at all. It’s the same penis, your just seeing more of it. They are saying that to actually increase the total size of the penis (inner + outer), one would need to add grafts or other types of tissues added to the penis.

This goes against what some people have claimed in terms of PE adding more tissue or cells to the penis.

Well your true penis length would be from the tip, to where it ends at the perineum. “Inner penis” trapped along the pubic bone is not visible outside of the body, nor is it useable for thrusting.

However if we could release “inner penis” length so it is not on the pubic bone, you would measure an increase outside of the body, it could be significant on some people depending on how much was trapped on the pubic bone… But you did not add the the overall length of the penis from tip to where it ends at the perineum.

That being the case, many of us would be happy releasing an inch or two of “internal penis”, of much of the stability is maintained and we have a working penis.

Yup, and its probably safe to say that inner 1-2 inches is also girthier then the rest of the shaft, no? We have to focus on the inner penis, maybe stretching/hanging close to the base to attack the IP?

“The increase in length 12 months post-operatively was 3.5 ±1.3 cm (2.3–5.1 cm) in the flaccid state, 1.8 ± 1.4 cm (1.4–3.2 cm) in the erect state.”

Why this difference between flaccid and erect length gain. There’s ~2x the gain in flaccid length. What happens in the erect state? Does part of the stuff that gets exposed in the flaccid state move backwards when erect so the gain isn’t proportional? I’m trying to picture this and I’m not understanding it.

I’ve been saying what that article says on this site and others for years.

A urologist once showed me a very detailed anatomical diagram of the penis and explained why lig cutting doesn’t effect the erect penis. They cut the suspensory ligs at the front, but the penis is anchored by other ligs right the way back. Inner penis wont be pulled out by PE methods. The amount of tension needed to stretch all the ligaments holding it in place would damage the penis.

Length gains come from stretching the tunica or jelqing. Very rarely some guys make gains immediately post op after lig cutting and that is because they had an anatomical abnormality, in that they had short and tight ligs.

I’m sure people will continue to talk about inner penis and argue against what I’ve said, but if you feel your primary suspensory ligs at the front and then compare that to how tightly and firmly the penis is held against the bone the further you go back towards your anus, you’ll see a massive difference. The front ligs can be stretched, but I honestly can’t see how anyone could expect to stretch those further back and without stretching them, the inner penis wont come out.

But also it must be remember the frontal ligs are pretty superficial. If you stretch or damage the deeper ligs what is going to hold your penis in place. They are called “suspensory” ligs for a reason.

I have fashioned a semi-ridgid jelqing device out of a heavy coathanger wire and a thick rubber band to jelq the inner penis while stretching outward . You seem to get past the kick-back effect almost immediately and the stretch seems to extend far beyond regular stretching in SO direction. I realize, in PE, you can fool yourself, but then, every main problem in PE is about mensuration. Without wanting to change the direction of the thread, here, I have wanted to start a thread which poses that the size of the notch in the Pubic Symphasis is a determinant in the potential size of the penis. And of course that does relate to the amount of connective tissue possible there.

howardson,

Can you elaborate more on this?

What does this say about girth gains?

When I was about twenty, I took a class in vertibrate anatomy headed by a spooky, hungarian pathologist who had actual bone fragments—this particular lecture, of the pelvis and the unique nature of the Pubic Symphasis as differientiated in males and females and its occlusion late in embrionic developement. As I remember, he had several, and of a mature male, I remember him exclaiming, after showing the process, that the guy had a big dick.

Bohm, beyond that, I am not very qualified to speak further except, since starting PE, I’ve thought about that lecture , remembered the “roughness” of the symph. bone where all the ligs. attach. Somebody like “westla”could probably say more. As to the notch and the size of it , why would the pathologist have related the size of it as indicating penis size, in his experience, if it were not a true indicator?

If you are asking about the “device”, the form of it is hard to explain. Maybe I could sketch it if anybody is really interested.
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I’m not understanding exactly what you are saying howardson. Are you saying the lecturer showed you that some feature of the Pubic Symphasis was correlated to penis size?

johndough123:

Next time you get greased up for jelqs with a partial erection, grease your two index fingers and while gathering a little of your upper scrotum, slowly and firmly push inwards alongside your two CCs as deeply as you can. You can feel the split of the right and left ligs insertions. Between these is the Pubic Symphysis. a cartilageounous tissue that has fused the two sections of your pelvis. I am guessing that at your age it is still quite flexible as it is capable of absorbing the different pressures presented from the hip bone sockets. At my age..well never mind.

You will also feel an “arch” form in the bones, rising up to the PS. What I believe the Pathologist (a forensic Dr.) was saying was that this arch was larger, in the specimen, than usual, that the ligaments were attached in a wide array ,judging from the roughness of the areas of attachment to the bones, and that both of those clues which he evidenced a big dick. This is fun stuff, right?

I doubt it. Maybe some serious pulling/wanking will create more notches. I’d bet if that’s true those who do PE with continual stress on penis ligaments will have some major notches, especially the guys who hang barbells on the end of their knobs. In all seriousness something has changed on the bottom of my shaft when my balls got pushed backwards. There’s a section of my shaft from the bottom that is now observable that was hidden by my balls before.