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Steady sustainable lengthening

Steady sustainable lengthening

During the last 7-8 months I have developed and tested a new manual method for length gains. It is safe, with excellent EQ, short sessions and it has worked for me. It could be of interest for people which got stuck without length gains after the newbie routine. It’s about tunica lengthening through flaccid stretching (9 o’clock, perpendicular to the body). What’s new is the genuine approach, or methodology of work, which makes it reproducible and almost as predictable as a body building training.

No method guarantees erect gains. This method guarantees flaccid stretched length gains, which can be scheduled on a regular basis (boring, I know). Flaccid stretched gains are immediately followed by flaccid (non-stretched) gains and with some delay, by erect gains.

Before describing the routine, in order to understand how it works, I’ll clarify in the following post three closely related aspects. These aspects could be new concepts for many people – at least I haven’t seen them mentioned on the Forum, but I know there is nothing new under the Thunder sun:

1. How much force should we employ for stretching?
2. BPFSL is not quite constant
3. Measuring BPFSL reproducibly

Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

How much force should we employ for stretching?

This was asked many times without a final answer. “Depends on the person, not too little, not too much”, the usual common sense advice which doesn’t clear the confusion.

Obviously stretching with too little force does nothing to stimulate growing, while too much force could damage something, so we have to be somewhere between the extremes. Too much force, even before provoking obvious damage, could result in toughening the tissues and limiting further growth.

The logic dictates that we should use more force for more effect, but not so much to provoke toughening. I postulate that we should use exactly that much force that is needed to set the BPFSL. The force needed to have the BPFSL is the minimum force that makes the maximum lengthening, so it seems to be the optimal stretching force. Anything more wouldn’t get any additional lengthening, just more toughening!

The force needed to set the BPFSL depends on the individual, yet is an invariant for each of us and it is easily reproducible. Just stretch against a ruler, slowly increasing the force and stop when the increase in force doesn’t result in more stretched length.

From now on we’ll consider this as standard stretching force.

Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

BPFSL is not quite constant

We use to interpret BPFSL as a constant parameter, like BPEL, or EG. Actually we know that body constants are not so constant: body weight varies with a few pounds during a day, height varies more than an inch during a day (we are shortest before going to bed), etc. Flaccid stretched length is also variable, but in a different way.

Let’s consider we have just measured BPFSL as accurately as we could and unfortunately it seems to be the same as the measurement from the last month. It seems to be constant. Now let’s play a little more with measuring BFFSL, but this time we’ll hold the stretch at the maximum extension for 10 seconds. After a few seconds rest we repeatedly set the BPFSL, holding it again for 10 seconds. After 3-4 minutes we’ll notice that the latest measurement shows a larger BPFSL than the first ones. This goes on like this and after some more minutes of repeatedly measuring the BPFSL we get even larger values. After 10-15 minutes the BPFSL increase will stop, but we shall measure a BPFSL at least ½ inch larger than the initial measurement!
This is the basis for the routine I’m going to describe later below.

Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Measuring BPFSL reproducibly

The routine I’m going to describe is based on measuring BPFSL most accurately. The worst obstacle for accurately measuring length is absent. You know I mean EQ. Fortunately we’ll measure flaccid. The next worst obstacle is (inaccurate) eyeballing of the ruler. We must eliminate this! We don’t need sophisticated laser beam instruments, just the use of a contact method:

Get a large, thick wooden school ruler, or even better a wooden plank. The thicker the better, because it’ll be more comfortable. Have the edges rounded, because you don’t want to stab yourself during repeatedly measuring the length. Now the most important thing – get a cloth clip (one used to hang wet clothes on the string). Pinch the clip perpendicularly on the ‘ruler’ (I’ll call it ruler, even if it has no distance marks on it) at the previously measured BPFSL distance. Now, with this improved ruler, measure again the BPFSL. The tip of the glans should slightly touch the clip. Most probably will not. If needed, adjust forward, or backward the position of the clip, so that when BPFSL is set, it touches slightly the tip of the glans.

Please note that we don’t need actual distance marks on the ‘ruler’. Measuring with this instrument means setting the clip just at the tip of the glans. It eliminates oblique viewing problems and subjectivity of eyeballing.

The next obstacle for accurate measurements is pushing forward the pelvis. It can be eliminated by having a wall, or furniture against your back. If there is no possibility for that, just be aware about this temptation and try not to fool yourself by pelvic cheating.

One more thing and we can be ISO 9001 certified: the ruler should stay horizontally. One end is always bone pressed at the same position (right along the top of the shaft). The other end should lay on a permanent fixed place, like a window frame (curtains closed :) ), or a piece of furniture. Always keep the same setup, otherwise there is no accuracy!

With this measuring protocol, you’ll be able to have true reproducibility in the range of < 1/2 mm (~1/50 inch) and you’ll need this accuracy!

Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Last edited by cervixhunter : 03-30-2010 at .

The routine is quite simple.

1. First day:

Use the clip-ruler and following the above described protocol, measure the BPFSL holding the stretch for 10 seconds. Rest for 5 seconds, then repeat setting the BPFSL and holding 10 seconds. When needed, adjust the position of the clip, as you’ll get more and more stretched length. The measuring consists of stretching the shaft (having a below glans grip) until there is no more extension, then setting the clip in the new (and more distant) position. Repeat this procedure for 15 minutes. The final position of the clip gives the 15 minute BPFSL value. You may measure this distance, or just mark the position of the clip on the ‘ruler’, it has no importance. This ‘working’ BPFSL has nothing to do with the ‘official’ BPFSL in your stats (actually, it could be shorter, given the thickness of the ruler which makes for less bone pressing, or could be larger due to the longer time spent with stretching). It’s only used for the routine.

2 Next days:

Set the clip at the last position from the previous workout. Don’t touch the clip anymore! Stretch for setting the current BPFSL and hold the stretch for 10 seconds. You’ll notice a huge gap between the tip of the glans and the clip, thinking that you messed up something. I always get around ½ inch gap at the first trial. Don’t touch the clip, as I said before! Rest for a few seconds, then repeat setting the BPFSL. After 3-4 minutes you’ll notice the gap begins to close. After at most 15 minutes (but probably sooner) you should touch the clip with the tip of the glans. Anyway, continue the exercise for the whole 15 minutes even if you managed to set sooner the previous day’s record :)
This is all for that day.

If you don’t cheat, you’ll notice that no matter how far seems to be the clip, you are able to reach it during the 15 minutes. Even after 8 month of performing the routine, I’m always surprised by this fact.

You’ll also notice that the time needed to reach the clip is decreasing continuously. After 10 days, or two weeks, you’ll be able to reach the clip in around 10 minutes. When you notice that you reach the clip consistently under 10 minutes, it’s time to set it farther!

I use to set the clip 1 mm (1/25”) farther at approximately each two weeks (when I am consistent with PE). That could be extrapolated to 1”/year. Unfortunately I cannot maintain the consistency in PE due to lack of privacy.

After the 15 minutes of stretching, I use to have another 15 minutes of jelqing. It should be performed in the higher erection range, with proportionally lower pressure, going to almost gentle strokes. Never do erect jelqs at high pressure, very dangerous!!
The jelqs are done to keep a good expansion in the newly enlarged chambers.

I hope some people will be inspired by this approach to PE and will benefit from the routine!

Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Last edited by cervixhunter : 03-30-2010 at .

Wow. Awesome suggestion here man. I’m going to take you up on this! Thanks!

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What a great inovative input you just added to PE. This is a whole new approach to length excercises, an evolutionary branch if you will. I will personally get on it right away, as I will now feel that each stretch has an individual numericall porpuse to it as opposed to stretching blindly out into the air.

Your description of the amount of force needed to use makes alot of sense as well, great job man.

Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75

Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0

This is definitely something that I am going to be paying attention to. Pretty interesting stuff.

Hey CH, sorry if you mentioned it and I missed it, but how much have you gained in the 7 months of using this routine?

Jan. '08:.............................................. .................................................. ........................April '13:.........Goal:

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6.5 BP................................................ .................................................. .........................8.25 BP.......... 8.5 BP

Thank you all for your interest!

@skeebo: My gains are impressive only if you know how little consistency I could have with PE. I’m married with a child and I go stealth - if and when I have some privacy.

According to my stats, I have gained 0.19”, but 0.11” in the last 3 months when I was a bit more consistent.

Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Decent well thought out technique but probably only for those people who really are obsessed with measuring, checking and like a scientific approach.

Interesting, especially the time taken to reach the clip.

My mind can’t help but wander to ADS’…

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Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
Interesting, especially the time taken to reach the clip.

My mind can’t help but wander to ADS’..

This is aimed at people doing manual only. Of course hanging and ADS would be better or even if you do normal manual stretches but do it to an amount where your body lets you know you are fatigued could be better probably because more is done.

Excellent thread!

Quality, new information so rarely surfaces on TP that this thread was truly a pleasure to read - thank you for your contribution!

Starting (10 / 2006): 5.5 NBP, 5 BG ----> Current: 7.5 NBP, 8 BP, 5.6 BG ----> Goal: Pringles

cervixhunter, thank you very much for sharing this with us! I really like your routine.

As for comparing CH’s routine to hanging or ADS’ing, I have to mention that doing multiple stretches “should” have an effect called hysteresis. This means that breaking up 15 minutes of stretching into multiple reps should produce more of an increase in bpfsl than holding a stretch for 15 minutes straight. It is my own belief that this explains why jelqing and manual stretches are effective, even though total time under tension is less than with extenders or hanging.

There is something to be said for applying a force in reps, even though total time under tension, and long duration stretches are proven to produce permanent length increases in connective tissue.

Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.

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