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Originally Posted by Kojack10

I have to mention that doing multiple stretches “should” have an effect called hysteresis. This means that breaking up 15 minutes of stretching into multiple reps should produce more of an increase in bpfsl than holding a stretch for 15 minutes straight. It is my own belief that this explains why jelqing and manual stretches are effective, even though total time under tension is less than with extenders or hanging.

This hysteresis effect (penis not returning to the initial state after stretching) is arguably real for durations of a few minutes. It is responsible for getting progressively larger BPFSL measurements when repeatedly measuring for some minutes. If the workout is resumed after an interruption of more than a few minutes, the BPFSL values tend to fall back to the initial measurements.

When I opted for many repetitions of 10 seconds maximum extension stretches versus long duration stretches, I was thinking less about the hysteresis effect, but more about the need for oxygenation of the tissues. An even more stringent practical aspect is the discomfort of holding the BPFSL stretch for longer durations. The 10 seconds hold was a good compromise.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Hey Ch, when you did this, do you do 15 minutes worth of stretching or do you set a timer for 15 minutes and do as many stretches within that time frame as you can?


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6.5 BP................................................ ...............................................8.2 5 BP.......... 8.5 BP

I look at my watch.

Never counted how many stretches I perform during those 15 minutes. Maybe 60 - 70.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Ah ok thanks.


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6.5 BP................................................ ...............................................8.2 5 BP.......... 8.5 BP

cervixhunter: Incase you haven’t seen Equine Rooster’s log, check it out. He had some interesting notes about measuring BPSFL as well as gains there in relation to gains in BPEL.

Very good thread.

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
This hysteresis effect (penis not returning to the initial state after stretching) is arguably real for durations of a few minutes. It is responsible for getting progressively larger BPFSL measurements when repeatedly measuring for some minutes. If the workout is resumed after an interruption of more than a few minutes, the BPFSL values tend to fall back to the initial measurements.
When I opted for many repetitions of 10 seconds maximum extension stretches versus long duration stretches, I was thinking less about the hysteresis effect, but more about the need for oxygenation of the tissues. An even more stringent practical aspect is the discomfort of holding the BPFSL stretch for longer durations. The 10 seconds hold was a good compromise.

If your bpfsl is increasing steadily, I guess that’s all that matters.


Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.

Hi cervixhunter.

Thank you for this incredible explanation. I will surely give this a serious go with my exerciser’s.

Good luck and happy gaining.

Best regards Coos

Cervixhunter, I have an extremely fragile penis and I have never been able to stretch effectively without injury. I am extremely excited to try this meathod but I was hoping that you might have some input on why this is better for EQ than other manual stretches. Thanks!

Thanks, new68coost!
Bill, I don’t think I did a comparison to other manual stretches. I said it gave an excellent EQ. It might be that it’s a short routine, which stimulates but doesn’t exhaust the penis and is immediately followed by light jelqing in the more erect range (also very stimulating for EQ).

You might have noticed that the basis of this method is the observation that stretching with an optimal force gives ever increasing elongation over a period of time of around 15 minutes. It is a cumulative effect if the stretching session is un-interrupted, excepting the 5-10 seconds long oxygenation breaks.
The “instrumental” part of the routine, i.e. the accurate measuring protocol is just a means of tracking the progress. Objectively speaking, it’s not the important part for gains. However, measuring during the routine assures that you employ the right force and gives the needed feed-back for knowing when you have reached the end of the routine. Also, the psychological effect of seeing the evidence of gains is extremely motivational.

Update:
My initial advice was to have 10 seconds long stretches followed by around 5 seconds long breaks. The 10 sec. duration was a compromise between the desire to have long stretches and the discomfort felt when I actually did these stretches. It seems that I got used to the routine and I’m able to hold the stretch for longer than 10 seconds (even for 30 seconds) without discomfort anymore.
My new advice is to hold the stretch for as long as you feel comfortable (but not exceeding 30 seconds) before taking the oxygenation break. Longer stretches are more effective!


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
Now let’s play a little more with measuring BFFSL, but this time we’ll hold the stretch at the maximum extension for 10 seconds. After a few seconds rest we repeatedly set the BPFSL, holding it again for 10 seconds. After 3-4 minutes we’ll notice that the latest measurement shows a larger BPFSL than the first ones. This goes on like this and after some more minutes of repeatedly measuring the BPFSL we get even larger values. After 10-15 minutes the BPFSL increase will stop, but we shall measure a BPFSL at least ½ inch larger than the initial measurement!

This is the basis for the routine I’m going to describe later below.

Sounds like an interesting approach, however half an inch in 10-15 minutes sounds highly unrealistic. I tried out the 15 min routine and I didn’t get any change in my BPFSL, not even a millimeter. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect half an inch in just 15 minutes, it might take months even years.

Dicko, I cannot comment this in an expert manner, because I only know my case and now yours. I’m disappointed to hear your experience. On the other hand, there is nothing unrealistic in measuring 1/2” larger length after 15 minutes of exercising. It’s the same as trying to touch your toes with your hands, having your legs straight. First you might not reach even your ankle, but after several minutes of trying, you make a lot of progress. I would be surprised if one could not make any progress after 15 minutes…


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"


Last edited by cervixhunter : 07-07-2010 at .

I’ve been trying out what you suggest, Cervixhunter, and while I have had better results than Dicko, my results are not as dramatic as yours. In 15 minutes I get 1/8-1/4” increase in BPFSL. On a more hopeful note, I have been getting a steady increase in BPFSL, up a 1/8” since I started.

Perhaps it’s a difference in the force of the stretch, also I’m a PE veteran and it probably going to take a lot longer for me. I wish I could get 1/2” in 15 minutes, that would be amazing.

That half inch is just a temporary gain. I have it all the time when I end my routine, but after a short time it’s gone! What counts is the permanent gain, which comes in a much slower pace.

It may be about the elasticity of the tissues which gives the different instant gains.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Hi Cervix,

Very interesting approach to stretch the penis in the most comfortable way. I learned mine the hard way by stretching too hard.

But my biggest challenge when stretching manually is the erection sensitivity. I get instant semi to full erection with a few light touches. It frustrates me to a point where I am planning to use ADS (ie. vacADS and golfweights) for a prolonged session of stretch without my hand touching my unit.

If I could calm my unit down, I would be able to test out your strategy.. but I figure the erection is not going to help with constant measuring.

I see a lot of value in going very slowly and comfortable.. only stretch to your last BPFSL. I noticed your BPFSL is significantly longer than BPEL. Mine is less than 1/4 inch difference.


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