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Hey Rush, how are you?

In the six months you spent doing PE, did you have many rest days? Is that more a future goal?


Working on getting ABSURDLY thick - Latest picture - Late 2010

Originally Posted by tedbaker
Rushmore,

Great post. I totally relate to what you are saying here. I truly believe that you have to feel right in order to be productive in PE. And you can only feel right if your unit is in the right state. I have my best workouts when my unit is ready and I can feel that right before I start my sessions. But on the other side If you PE only on the days when you feel like your unit is in the perfect state you will lose your consistency with missing a lot of days. So what I do I just take it easy on those days when I feel like my unit is not in the right state for a good session. I just do a little bit of stretches or light jelqing, edging.


That’s what I do too. I’m waiting for more gains and months of experience (credability) before preaching to others to do this. 8/10 people say no rest days are bad. From my early experiences I agree with rushmore that rest days = 0. I do have rest days though, I think in 10 weeks I have had 5 or 6, but only on random days not preplanned or scheduled but instead based on feedback from the penis. And whenever possible I try to follow your method, of doing a light session instead of a rest day. As I get more experience I may live to regret this decision but so far so good. When people say rest days are crucial for growth, I think of bodybuilding. But bodybuilding and PE are two different things. I have gained .7 inch (most likely .9 when I measure in 2 weeks) with only one rest day averaged every two weeks. I don’t believe my penis has done it’s growing on these rest days, I believe it’s been alot more progressive then that. It’s a controversial issue, so I want to wait for more experience before declaring my way as 100% right or wrong. Experimenting at this point, but so far so good.

I will pretty much Parrot what BIB said on his forum to me.

Me:>What is your theory on rest days? I fully agree that length does not need rest days, and with SD and BTC we are attacking the ligs, however that kind of goes against the cell regeneration theory I think when it comes to the tunica. But who knows.<

Bib: “I have no idea what the “cell regeneration theory” is. Gains come from deformation of the collagenous tissues, whether tunica or ligs. Deformation does not occur while resting. Healing occurs while resting. Healed tissues are harder to deform.

Please give me any physiological reason for taking rest days. In ten years, I have not heard one.”

He also said in another thread, something like this: “So assume you hang for 2 hours per day. Your body is healing for 22 hours after that, take a day off, and it is 48, not good. The tissues are now healed back stronger and much harder to deform.”

He made a GREAT POINT.

Rush, This state of dick is super hard for me to get. My big health problem is neurotransmitter defiencies. The first time I got on Wellbutrin the dopamine/nor epinephrine re-uptake inhibitor, my penis totally loosened up, hung about an inch lower, and would stretch great. It would never pull out of my ADS (it happens now it stiffens up) and I could pull it to my stretching point, and then a few CM past and feel the fatigue coming. Now? I pull it to my stretch point (8.25 BPSFL) and it will NOT budge. Fatigue is minor from hanging as well, and erections aren’t as good. I am consulting with my genius doctor soon and ask him about it, he will know.

iron,

It makes sense that neurotransmitters would play an important role in your “state of dick,” but only as you said if there were some major abnormality should it have a long-lasting effect. They affect out ability to have erections through signals to the nervous system as well as maintain mood (anxiety/depression/etc.). So I don’t think it’s unfair to think that a medication that helped stabilize you to a proper level of these neuro chemicals would have effects on erections, flaccid hang, pliability of smooth muscle, mood, and probably a host of other things.

With that said, you have a tough limiting factor for length, the toughest…a steel beam septum, which I have as well. After many years of PE, there comes a point for US that a long decon break is needed when the septum becomes just too strong to budge at all. If it is limiting your pull in ALL directions, but is most prominent in straight up…it IS your septum. I know you’ve been PE’ing pretty hard for some time now, probably harder than you needed to at times (especially when you had a bad state of dick) so this thing may just be not willing to give until it weakens some.

The good news is you hang…I think this is the only effective way to stretch the septum for people like us. So, you have choices. You can continue to up the weight and see if you can fatigue it, or take a break. I personally would take a good long decon (which I know you won’t do) becasue the type of weight you will need to fatigue right now in this poor state of dick is not a good idea, especially when much lower weight would work if your penis was in a better state. This will make your penis even stronger, and future gains even tougher…and might not produce gains for you right now!!

1 other thing you can try…just wear the ADS and do NOTHING else. An ADS has the ability to put you in a good “state of dick,” but not if other forces are so great that your penis can’t even feel it. This may or may not be possible for you current predicament, but worth a try. It will also give you a mental break, which you need right now. PE is long term. How are your erections?

Hey m7,

I don’t take many rest days, if any, when I’m actively PE’ing. In the past, this was a surefire way to lose a good state of dick. Hanging produces much more stress than anything I have done before though, even at lower weights, so some rest days may be possible for me now. You should change nothing…you are doing great. For me though, my erections seem to suffer with no rest days, especially when hanging. Now, I want a bigger dick, but if I can’t fuck my wife than it’s pointless. I have a strange physiology in that when I hang in ANY direction, my BC muscle gets effected. It usually pulsates during the sets even without me contacting it or doing anything…even in BTC. I was never able to get this type of BC stimulation before, except very briefly during manual stretching a few times in the past. It seems that a little of this is very good for me in terms of my “state of dick,” but too much has the opposite effect. I know this is confusing, I will try to explain more…

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