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some PE physiology

Penis Enlargement
“The science behind it”

We have poured over recent journals and reports and we have learned that recent studies conducted by scientist D.J. Millward have shown that muscle cells (including the ‘corpora cells’ within the penis) are surrounded by thin sheaths of connective tissue: the endoysium, perimysium, and epimysium.

These layers can be pictured as exceptionally tough layers of plastic wrap snugly surrounding each cell (and groups of cells). In order for each cell to enlarge, the tough, fibrous connective tissue surrounding the cell must be stretched to a larger diameter. Think of these layers as ‘girdles’ that restrict cell expansion.

The human body responds; grows, develops, and adapts; to physical stimulation and exercise. The tendons, ligaments, muscle fibers, and cellular tissue stretch and heal to adapt to new stressors on them (Berne, Levy, Koeppen, & Stanton, 1998). This is the innate physiology of the human body, to grow and adapt to change, and all tissue in the body responds to the various stressors exerted on it.

Penis enlargement programs rely upon this innate ability of muscle fibers to stretch and grow to accommodate exercise, along with the tendons and ligaments. However, the penis is not made up of muscle tissue, but it is affected by the ligaments attaching it to the pubic bone. In addition, the erectile tissue, corpora cavernosa, is a spongy tissue containing distensible blood spaces, which increases in size when blood is pumped into it (Martini, 1998).

The corpora cavernosa in the male penis is similar in construction to the pore cells in marine life called sponges. Repeatedly stretching the pore cells in a live sponge will cause it’s absorption pores to expand and heal in this expanded state to adapt to the minute tearing of the cellular walls of the pores, thereby making the pore cells larger and more capable of absorbing more water and nutrients.

The corpora cavernosa is a live tissue which responds similarly in the manner of a sponge (Martini, 1998); therefore, continuous stretching and healing should cause the distensible blood spaces to increase their ability to absorb more blood, as a sponge does with water, and thereby increase actual size of the erectile tissue.

For a bodybuilder, the blood rushing into the muscle during resistance weight training (also known as “the pump”) stretches the layers, forcing them to rebuild in slightly larger and larger shapes. Now, to increase the size of your penis, you must somehow stretch the connective layers that surround your erectile tissue.

The external exercises men perform with natural penis enlargement programs stimulate the connective layers of the penis to achieve, after repeated sessions, permanent increase in size and strength. These exercises do not cause new cells to appear – simply, pre-existing cells are forced to increase in size a small amount each time the exercises are performed. During the rest period between the exercises day, your body will rebuild itself a little bigger and stronger and with time and persistence you will begin to see measurable results.

To understand the basics behind penis enlargement, one must understand the basic structural anatomy of the penis, how erection occurs, and the mechanics of how penile tissue can be strengthened and enlarged.

Introducing some physics into it, I’d say PE might involve plastic deformation of the dick. The elastic modulus/spring constant comes from F = k * x, where x is the displacement for a force F. SO as far as the force is within the elastic limits of deformatin of cells, the elongation is elastic, implies it comes backto original state when the force is removed. When the force exceeds the elastic threshold, plastic deofrmation starts!

So applying Wadzillas theory that PE involves cell size increase rather than growth of new cells, PE should actually involve plastic deformation.

What do the vets concur on for best results? -
1. High intensity stress for short durations (15 mins of stretching)
2. High intensity applied over short intervals but repeatedly over long durations (say 5-10 mins stretching/hanging done for a duration of 2 hrs)
3. Medium intensity stress applied continuously over long periods.

Another proposal is that during rest periods the body tries to increase/restore the spring constant/elastic modulus. If that is true, since the plastic deformation threshold has also increased, we will need to increase the stress (F) to produce plastic deformation (read as gains). So if tha’ts true, as people gain, they need to stretch harder to go beyond the plateau!! Now do the vets agree with this???

This is a very interesting post. I learned a lot from this because it told me a lot about the penis and the body. It sort of explained why and how the body and the penis increases in size. Great post!

Love Heather


Heather

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Originally posted by rg

What do the vets concur on for best results? -
1. High intensity stress for short durations (15 mins of stretching)
2. High intensity applied over short intervals but repeatedly over long durations (say 5-10 mins stretching/hanging done for a duration of 2 hrs)
3. Medium intensity stress applied continuously over long periods.

Another proposal is that during rest periods the body tries to increase/restore the spring constant/elastic modulus. If that is true, since the plastic deformation threshold has also increased, we will need to increase the stress (F) to produce plastic deformation (read as gains). So if tha'ts true, as people gain, they need to stretch harder to go beyond the plateau!! Now do the vets agree with this???

Well, for me over the last 6 weeks, a variation of choice #2 has been working better than anything else I’ve done to date over the last 4 YEARS. I hang a total time 6 days a week on average of 4 hours a day. Broken up into 20 minute sessions throughout the day. I’ve gained over 1/2” in length…flaccid stretched AND erect in that same time frame.

rg,

>Introducing some physics into it, I’d say PE might involve plastic deformation of the dick. <

Right. The elastic fibers are easy to stretch. Pull your dick out to its FSL, and the elastic fibers are stretched as much as they can be. The plastic fibers then become the limiting factor.

>What do the vets concur on for best results? -
1. High intensity stress for short durations (15 mins of stretching)
2. High intensity applied over short intervals but repeatedly over long durations (say 5-10 mins stretching/hanging done for a duration of 2 hrs)
3. Medium intensity stress applied continuously over long periods.<

The tissues are very resistant to deformation. It takes a lot of work (force x time) to permanently enlarge them. Intensity is important, as is time, but these are opposites, as time increases max intensity decreases. We get around this by taking fatigue into account. As the tissues are fatigued, less stress can comfortably be applied. So with hanging for example, you might be able to hang 20 pounds for 1 hour, then after that you can only handle 17, then 15 for the next set, then 13 for the next etc. So the intensity is lower than max, but it is the maximum that fatigue will allow, so you are applying as much force as is safely possible. Working in this fatigued state is the key to gains. Of course, all of this assumes there are no other problems that would hinder PE, such as any injury or soreness. Never work through pain.

The optimal routine would probably consist of stretching or hanging at these reduced weights, riding the fatigue, and then using an ADS device or a traction wrap, which would hold the plastic fibers in their extended state, to stop them returning to their original size. In the case of ADS, yet more lengthening may occur by the high level of time at low intensity, especially considering that the tissues are already fatigued.

>Another proposal is that during rest periods the body tries to increase/restore the spring constant/elastic modulus. If that is true, since the plastic deformation threshold has also increased, we will need to increase the stress (F) to produce plastic deformation (read as gains). So if tha’ts true, as people gain, they need to stretch harder to go beyond the plateau!! Now do the vets agree with this???<

No matter what force you use, the tissues will adapt to that force. I started hanging at low weights, and at my strongest could handle over 30 pounds. But by riding the fatigue as stated above, the tissues can not grow stronger as readily, as they are being constantly stretched.

Good Luck
SS4

Yes the key seems to be keeping the tissues as fatigued as possible…to limit the amount they “adapt” to the stresses applied and, at the same time, not applying too much stress and fatigue to avoid injury. Sort of a sick juggling act with your penis.

I have to go with Stillwantmore. Short term, high intensity over an extended duration.

The first time I tried hanging was after I’d been PE’ing for about 8 months. That first day I was hanging 15 pounds and by the end of the week, I had a rig set up wherein I used a fish-weighing scale to measure the tension on the trout. I had a rope running from a broomstick I held between my feet to the scale and then to my hanger. I could vary the tension by merely extending my legs as I sat in front of the TV watching Sanford and Son reruns, “hanging” 35 pounds on the meter for hours on end. I got no length gains at all from this, although I did get some nice girth, like 3/8”. Why - I have no idea.

I have to plug the bib hanger here because even with all that weight on my Johnson, it was nice and comfortable. :)

So, I returned to high intensity/short duration V-stretches where I grab the end of my dick with one fist, then I push down on the shaft (for the newbs, this is all flaccid work!) with the crook of my thumb. Then I lean back in my seat and push down until it burns. I hold this for a minute or so, release, and do it again maybe a dozen times before my triceps and deltoids ache. How much weight in pounds am I exerting on my dick? 50 pounds? I don’t know, but that’s how I get my results.


8/1/02: 5.75" BPEL X 4.5" EG

6/1/03: 7.5" BPEL X 5.75" EG as measured midshaft with a snapped chalk line....

My theories have changed a whole lot since I have learned more. But the only sticking point to this one is the lack of cell division. I have seen the thickness of the tunica when erect at a few sites as being anywhere from .16 mm to .25 mm.

I wont do the math here but it seems like you would eventually run out of material to stretch. Some hear have gained 4 inches or more. That just steered me away from accepting this as a fact.

If you are right then is is possible that we are severely weakening the tunica but thinning it out? I am up for a debate on this although this isnt my field of study.

Hypertrophy would lead me to believe that maintenance is necessary for the rest of my life. Plastic deformation would be much more permanent but also, wouldnt it take away from the elasticity?

Interesting response guys…
Well that almost confirms the plasticity theory then. Stressing while keeping the tissues fatigued => you are *not* allowing the dick to restore the elastic modulus. Once the elastic threshold has been crossed (by pulling/hanging stress) irreversible deformation starts taking place (i.e gains). Then you guys suggest that it’s better to keep the dick fatigued at this stage and continue pulling (rather than give a rest day). So the elastic threshold still remains the same, while the acting stress only continues to produce deformation!

So, moral of the story - when you start noticing gains, switch to a 5 on 2 off routine to increase gains??? But over there biology takes over so it may vary by the individual.

But it means that when you start noticing gains, PEing with lesser intensity but without taking frequent rest days could continue to produce further gains!! What say vets?

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Originally posted by Cya at 8
My theories have changed a whole lot since I have learned more. But the only sticking point to this one is the lack of cell division. I have seen the thickness of the tunica when erect at a few sites as being anywhere from .16 mm to .25 mm.

I wont do the math here but it seems like you would eventually run out of material to stretch. Some hear have gained 4 inches or more. That just steered me away from accepting this as a fact.

If you are right then is is possible that we are severely weakening the tunica but thinning it out? I am up for a debate on this although this isnt my field of study.

Hypertrophy would lead me to believe that maintenance is necessary for the rest of my life. Plastic deformation would be much more permanent but also, wouldnt it take away from the elasticity?


Cell division - which I think is “hyperplasia” - has been observed in some animals (under applied stress) but I don’t believe it happens in humans. But what is 4 inches? At my best shape, my chest was 54” waist 34” arms just over 20 inches and my thighs were like 34” at thickest. My measurements grew a lot, despite there probably being no cell division. In hypertrophy, the fibers appear to thicken, but not multiply.
I know the penis isn’t a muscle, but to answer the point about the tunica thinning out, I read a good post somewhere in these forums about the tunica probably regaining some thickness after awhile. There was a lot of physiology in that post, but it referred to the fluid layer or something, I believe. And the tunica regaining some density after gains were cemented.
Most of what we discuss here are theories, at best. But I do agree that there is obviously a limit to how much the tunica can stretch (obviously, we’re not going to PE our way to 20” penises). But Bib has reported 5-inch-plus gains, and DLD was also around 4-5” gains. I’m not saying that everyone can make such gains, but I believe that most guys should be able to gain in the 2-4” range…I’m hoping - :)

I want to add, however, that ad copy for Andro-Penis® claims “An increase in the total number of cells.”

Has that been verified? This cell division may be possible in penile tissue, but I’m fairly certain that it’s never been confirmed in regular muscle building.

Collagenous tissues under stress have been proven to increase in density, including thickness. The tunica walls will get thicker, not thinner. That is one reason gains slow over time.

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bib, (wow, the hero himself here)
what I infer from the comments above is that high stress is required for irreversible deformation (gains).

I’m wondering if this could work -> over a short term where you start getting gains, reduce the rest days frequency and continue PE with reduced intensity? This would be a strategy to increase plastic deformation, and might work if the penis indeed undergoes plastic deformation instead of cell multiplication for PE gains.

rg, if you haven’t already, check out these threads. They contain some good info about plastic deformation, stress relaxation, repetitive loading, etc.

Thanks Hobby,

I like that idea of pyramidal weights starting with highest weight and then lowering it within a session. Completely inline with plastic theory! Though I am not into weights, I will try that with stretching.

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