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Should PE be public The debate

I absoloutely think it should be private, there for people looking to find but not common knowledge.

We’ve had this debate before and I know it’s selfish but us smaller guys really REALLY don’t want too many other guys knowing about this.
If we can just catch up to the average some of us would be so much happier, our lives would be completely different.

Definately not for everyone.

Knowledge is power. I’m cool w/ sharing, but some things a man should discover on his own. I realize Thunder’s is a viral community that draws its strength from group participation, but I’m not volunteering shit to anyone who’s not a member of this forum!! (except if I have a son one day.) Don’t forget, there are legions of medical professionals, urologists, etc. who will declare on camera that there is no scientifically proven way to permanently enlarge one’s penis, LOL.

Keep believing the earth is flat,bro, while I sail around the world!!!
-Marco Polo

I don’t think that Marco Polo but “bro” in the middle of any of his sentences.

It doesn’t matter how many people know about it. The ‘secrets’ to looking absolutely great from a fitness perspective are available and as public as anything…yet the number of obese continues to increase.

PE requires work which turns off many people.


UberGoober

6-22-08: 7.5' BPEL, 7' NBPEL, 7.75' BPSFL, 5.25' EG

Goals: 8' NBPEL, 6' EG, 21' NBPSFL

Originally Posted by UberGoober
It doesn’t matter how many people know about it. The ‘secrets’ to looking absolutely great from a fitness perspective are available and as public as anything…yet the number of obese continues to increase.

PE requires work which turns off many people.

I totally agree with you. However, the fact remains that if the information about “working out” to gain muscle mass was not common knowledge, then even LESS people out there would be doing it. And thus, keeping it private, would separate those who know about it, more from the pack. I mean, if PE was made public, obviously not everyone would do it, but some would. And that “some”, is greater than the number of people who would do it if the information were kept private.

Gimli


Start: May 12, 2007 BPEL: 5.551" EG: 4.646" FL: 3.051" FG: 3.858" Please Fill Out My Survey: Click Me!

Now: July 13, 2007 BPEL: 6.250" EG: 5.500" FL: 3.346" FG: 4.488"

Goal: BPEL: 7.000" EG: 6.000" FL: 5.000" FG: 4.750"

I don’t know. With health insurance plans in the US covering erectile dysfunction drugs, I am paying a penalty as an insurance user that could be reduced if more men used basic PE techniques more for penis health than anything. But, pills are fast and easy so it’s not like people would choose to work to bring back a “natural” erection in many cases.

A case could be made for going public to reduce insurance expenditures on erectile dysfunction drugs.


UberGoober

6-22-08: 7.5' BPEL, 7' NBPEL, 7.75' BPSFL, 5.25' EG

Goals: 8' NBPEL, 6' EG, 21' NBPSFL

Originally Posted by UberGoober
I don’t know. With health insurance plans in the US covering erectile dysfunction drugs, I am paying a penalty as an insurance user that could be reduced if more men used basic PE techniques more for penis health than anything. But, pills are fast and easy so it’s not like people would choose to work to bring back a “natural” erection in many cases.

A case could be made for going public to reduce insurance expenditures on erectile dysfunction drugs.

Very true, but surely this is a VERY minor cost compared to others. I agree that some of your money is going towards people’s “units” so that they may have harder erections (which could have at least been helped by PE). At the same time, how much of your money goes to people who are clinically obese and are taxing the system because they do not regularly exercise? I am not arguing with you, just think that it is a minor point.

Gimli :)


Start: May 12, 2007 BPEL: 5.551" EG: 4.646" FL: 3.051" FG: 3.858" Please Fill Out My Survey: Click Me!

Now: July 13, 2007 BPEL: 6.250" EG: 5.500" FL: 3.346" FG: 4.488"

Goal: BPEL: 7.000" EG: 6.000" FL: 5.000" FG: 4.750"

Originally Posted by Gimli
Very true, but surely this is a VERY minor cost compared to others. I agree that some of your money is going towards people’s “units” so that they may have harder erections (which could have at least been helped by PE). At the same time, how much of your money goes to people who are clinically obese and are taxing the system because they do not regularly exercise? I am not arguing with you, just think that it is a minor point.

Gimli :)

I agree with both of you on this one. However ED is usually the first signal of other health issues mostly to do with cardiovascular health. It would be cheaper at this point if PE was made public. For the reason of correcting ED alone. Ed is a dark foreboding issue, it makes you feel like you are an “It” and not a man. I should know I use to have ED. Pills are not always the answer. I take ginkgo,green tea in conjunction with PE exercise. Weight loss and getting into shape.

For example walking is a great exercise to prevent ED and all around great cardio vascular exercise.


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we will never reach an agreement, its not possible i think. yes, discovery is getting easier, with various forums, and fleeting whispers of this touchy topic; MOS’s DVD, and other sources included. maybe it is destined to be a secret passed down through the generations. i don’t think it should be common knowledge though, its something, i don’t know special, you should have to look for it. in a way thats a test for those that might become brothers.


Starting stats BPEL: 5.75", EG: 4.5 Current BPEL 6.75", EG 5" Target Size: BPEL: 8.5, EG: 6.5"

I personally don’t think it should be mass marketed. Sure tell your friends, but a lot of people would probably be unwilling to try PE. Also I like the idea of fewer big guys rather than millions. Less competition.


Start 6/13/07 BPEL: 6.4 / EG: 5.5

7/14/07 BPEL: 6.875 / EG: 5.75 / NBPEL: 6.5

I’m gonna have to say no to public.=P

If someone REALLy want’s to or is in need of PE, he is presistant enough to find out about this place and all it’s treasures.=D

Can’t have just anyone know about Atlantis.let us find some Indiana Jones within ourselfs.=)


We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. -Shakespeare, Henry V-

Then: BPEL:6" EG:4,6" Now: BPEL:7,5" EG:5,1"

I say go public. The more men that could benefit from PE (either in increased length or health) the better. We all need to unite around this cause.


23-11-06: 5.25 x 4.75 NBPEL 23-11-07: 5.70 x 5.00 NBPEL

23-5-07: 5.50 x 5.00 NBPEL

Goal: 7.25 x 6.00 NBPEL Stretch Goal: 8.00 X 6.00 NBPEL

I think it is practically impossible to “break the news” about PE anyway. First because the information is already out there. Thunders and other sources of information are findable; I found it after several futile searches over a couple of years. Thousands of marketers are selling PE information. A lot of it is bogus, but apart from devices and herbs, most of those selling ebooks and systems I think include basic information about jelqing and kegels. Second because people are not listening. Another book appearing will be lost in the background noise. No reputable publisher will touch it, so it will probably have to be self-published or e-published. The only way to break through the noise is to have a study endorsed by an institution like Harvard or Johns Hopkins, or a pill sold by a recognised drug company.

I have obsessed about penis size for as long as I remember. Finding this place was accidental - long after I had put any thoughts of getting bigger right out of my head. Between all the $$ scams out there and every respectable medical opinion refuting the success of PE, I had dismissed it entirely.

Then I stumbled across you people in January – quite by accident on an unrelated search. (I believe it was weather related – thunderstorms and such) My interest was renewed - the stories of success were so personal, genuine and compelling. Of course I had heard of jelqing and stretching long ago, but never gave it any serious effort. By March I had worked up to a serious newbie routine – followed it religiously. In June, I decided to measure what I could see and feel. .5” EL and .75” EG gained in just 6 months and a 2” flaccid gain – turtling is now a thing of the past…

Now my focus and belief has redoubled. I have graduated to more advanced and intense techniques. Clamping, horses and uli’s. I may give some hanging a try as well as ADS’ing. I am somewhat PO’ed that the truth of PE was not more obvious to me. I could be packing 8.5 x 6.5 by now..

That said, would I want this to be public? Not a chance. I am average in so many ways. And I really appreciate the ways in which I am above average. A big cock is something that makes me (now) above average. I get more and more above average with each passing day, week, month that I continue my routine. If everyone did PE, the average penis would be much larger and many of us would once again be just average… or below.

I will share – selectively - my knowledge and success. But only with men that I think are deserving and only if the situation is comfortable. Broadcasting Thundersplace and getting support from the medical community would erode the value that PE has for me.

The debate lies in human nature itself. We are selfish; something this good, this successful, we want to keep to ourselves.

That being said I currently don’t like the idea of it being public.

Its like bodybuilding: In theory almost everyone has the resources to learn how to work out, eat right and achieve the perfect body. How many actually do? The question lies in motivation. Then again I’d say penis size is a bigger issue for most guys than your bicep size or creatine intake.

Hmmm.


Stats, pre PE: BPEL 6.1" MSEG 4.5"

Ultimate Goal: BPEL 7.6" MSEG 6"

That's 1.5" both ways. Wish me luck! :D

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