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Should I Stop at BPEL8" or Should I Keep going?

Originally Posted by 10inchadvantage
I don’t want this to become another size debate thread, but Invisible has clearly shown the statistics. And yes, most studies are BPEL (from pubic bone to tip of glans) in measurement. Honestly, there are ALWAYS going to be people out there that an insecure person would see as “better” (whether it be richer, more handsome, bigger, etc). You have to learn to love yourself and use what you have to the best of your ability. Men with the attitude of “I’ll just get my dick to 10x7” will: 1. Never reach those dimensions. 2. Will never get the feeling of inadequacy out of their minds. People base their self-worth on the most retarded things sometimes, I know, I used to be the same way myself.

I agree with you, I def think the OP needs to go live life for sure, I certainly do and I don’t feel big enough. I admit, I don’t feel so small anymore, 1. knowing about PE and that I’m growing little by little, and 2. I’ve recently had girls say good things about my dick, which is different from past experiences or not saying anything.

I don’t think many of us want a 10x7, sure, it would be great for bragging rights in the locker room, I’ve also stated my goal is to gain as much as possible, I think the ideal size is 8.25x6.25 (NBPEL), I know it seems like a completely arbitrary number, but if and when I reach that size, I will truly feel like I have a wonderful cock.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

8.25 X 6.25 is quite large.

Somehow, I don’t think it’ll be enough once you get there, though. Just a hunch.

Mr. F, my take is you really have to get to the inner core of yourself on this.

At this point I’d stake my life on the idea that the dick in question is not the issue. Ruz_ has posted some very thoughtful responses.

Can we do a hypothetical? If we could absolutely rule out dick size, what would be the thing that would turn this for you?


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

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Thanks for the links guys, although CubanB, did you read past the first page of the article? ;)

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Sex shouldn’t hurt. The normal vagina can expand by up to 200 per cent during sex, so size is rarely an issue unless a woman isn’t fully aroused. To accommodate an erect penis comfortably some women need up to 20 minutes of stimulation so it may be that you and your girlfriend are rushing things. Are you skimping on foreplay? Provide enough manual and oral stimulation, paying particular attention to her clitoris and labia, and things may improve on their own…
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/…ffset=12&page=2

The article goes on to mention pain as a result of collision with the cervix. I suppose part of the reason for up to 20 minutes of stimulation is to cause the ‘tenting’ effect. I was kind of aiming for enough length to hit the posterior fornix, and so was kind of anticipating having to avoid the cervix anyway.

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…If the problem you have really is caused by “collision dyspareunia” — when your penis is so long that it hits her cervix — help is at hand in the form of a round rubber doughnut called the ComeClose protector ring. Designed by two women with well-endowed husbands, the device fits over the base of the penis to create a 2.5cm cushioned barrier between the two of you. Though it feels heavy, I’m assured that the added weight provides pleasurable pressure on the pelvis for both of you during sex.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/…ffset=12&page=2

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Hang on a second though…

Before you reach for the tape measure, it’s worth knowing that most sex researchers and therapists don’t trust these figures.

The reason? They’re based on measurements from laboratory studies where men knew they were participating in research to see how their knobs measured up.

This means guys who were worried about size were less likely to participate, whilst guys who thought they had big schlongs were more than happy to waggle them under researchers noses.

So most researchers, therapists and doctors suspect the ‘average’ penis size figures obtained in research (and widely quoted) are at least an inch larger than they should be. This is because research on penis size is skewed in favour of men who are happy to be measured.

That’s partly why you sometimes see a range of penis sizes given (as I did at the start of this answer) rather than the mean size, which is unreliable. If you really want a mean measurement then probably 5 inches when erect is more likely than 6 or 7 inches.

http://www.mansized.co.uk/answers/w…-penis-size/a15

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
Mr. F, my take is you really have to get to the inner core of yourself on this.

At this point I’d stake my life on the idea that the dick in question is not the issue. Ruz_ has posted some very thoughtful responses.

Can we do a hypothetical? If we could absolutely rule out dick size, what would be the thing that would turn this for you?

I’m not sure I understand the question. Do you mean what would settle it?


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Originally Posted by Ruz_
I really believe PE can be a positive. If a guy who is small on the survey scale, or is average, they can get bigger and it can improve their lives. However, there is also a downside which Mr F has hinted at here.

I’m not saying if you are 8” BPEL you have to stop. It depends on your circumstances/feelings/motivations etc. I’m just syaing Mr F’s post sent out a warning signal that most guys who replied entirely missed. The emotional impact of PE has to be taken as important at times as the physical.

People who die from eating disorders are skinny, yet don’t see it. People with low self-esteem have good elements, but don’t see them. Here the guy has a big dick, but doesn’t see it. Really, whether it weight or PE, are the emotional factors that different?


Yes, too many replying are projecting their own issues rather than paying attention to the particulars in front of them.

Originally Posted by Mr. F
I’ve been reluctant to work on girth since I heard it wasn’t permanent

Incorrect. I took 5 years off and kept at least 80% of my significant girth gains.


Working on getting ABSURDLY thick - Latest picture - Late 2010

Originally Posted by m7point0

Incorrect. I took 5 years off and kept at least 80% of my significant girth gains.

What exercises did you use to make the girth gains?


Previously known as Mr. Fantastic

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@Invisible. Thanks for your concern. I’m in psychotherapy at the moment so don’t worry, I wasn’t really expecting the more difficult aspects of my post to be dealt with here (as great as the forum is).

Through my reading I’ve come to believe that the 8x6 should be an upper limit rather than an ideal goal, I just feel like I need talking out of continuing, or just hearing reassurance that I might find that special someone for whom I may be to big.

I’ve switched to pumping now to try and even out my shape and am hoping to reach my length goal as a ‘side-effect’ of that. I’m not in that great a rush now and hopefully I’ll get a chance to ‘test drive’ the thing sooner rather than later.


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Mr F - In H.S. and College was close to 7NBP, probably 7.25BP.

Shrunk down in early 30’s due to drinking and non-active lifestyle to approx 6NBP 6.6 BP.

However my life allowed me to have a huge amount of confidence. I could fuck a lot better back then,
than today with a 7.2NBP 8.125 BP unit. I don’t have the same confidence, even though the stick is bigger.

I’m going for a little over 9 BP and might even go toward ten for vanity purpose.

I think dick size has less than we think in importance to quality women who like us. It is a vanity thing, it is going to create some extra excitement - but the act, with someone who values you is not going to be that hugely different.

The other side thing I noticed, was back in the day with the smaller unit I was concerned about angles, speed, etc.

Today with the bigger fatter unit, its more of a straightline affair due to the girth. I also am more concerned about how the walls are hitting me, and the friction.

The other thing, I used to be able to last about as long as I want.

Today with the fatter girth and bigger stick, its not the same. I CAN last very long, but I really have to focus more on it.

Just some points to ponder. I say grow it until you get to the size you are happy with, do not make it the center of your life though.

Originally Posted by Mr. F
@Invisible. Thanks for your concern. I'm in psychotherapy at the moment so don't worry, I wasn't really expecting the more difficult aspects of my post to be dealt with here (as great as the forum is).

Through my reading I’ve come to believe that the 8x6 should be an upper limit rather than an ideal goal, I just feel like I need talking out of continuing, or just hearing reassurance that I might find that special someone for whom I may be to big.

I’ve switched to pumping now to try and even out my shape and am hoping to reach my length goal as a ‘side-effect’ of that. I’m not in that great a rush now and hopefully I’ll get a chance to ‘test drive’ the thing sooner rather than later.


OK, that sounds good.

If it helps, I put some thought into goals a while back. You can take a look here:

Final Goals
Final Goals (Part 2)

You may or may not find it useful. It just depends on what’s important to you.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
More than 1 in 100 men have an 8” dick, and that would be NBPEL 8” long dick.

This is debateable HB. An NBPEL is nearly impossible to measure with any uniformity or consistency. I’ve said it before; when measuring “NBPEL”, does one push the measuring device barely touching the fat pad, pushing a little bit, maybe gaining 1/4 inch? It is nearly impossible to get the same measurement twice. That is why nearly all of the “current” studies on penis size are done bone pressed.

I have a 1 & 1/2” fat pad, (and people don’t start fucking talking about fitness, etc.), that is genetic, and has been there my whole life. My penis is “exposed” one the shaft peeks out of the pubic bone. If I had a 3” fat pad, it would still be 7.3214567” long. (approximately) I have tried the “NBPEL” measurement many times, and I NEVER come up with the same number.

All of this said, 8” BPEL is very large. (not just getting there, but VERY large)


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Originally Posted by Acid Jazz
I have a 1 & 1/2” fat pad, (and people don’t start fucking talking about fitness, etc.),

AJ, if you got really cut, I mean really cut, this fat will go. At the very least, it will look more appealing, not to mention the rest of you will look better. See my latest thread on the fitness forum.

In my mind’s eye, 8” BPEL will never be very large, but as a consolation prize, if they girl I’m with thinks its very large, I’ll be semi-content (until I build a bigger unit that is).


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

@Invisible

Thanks for those links, they’re great. I’m going to take a close look at them and think more seriously about my PE goals.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
AJ, if you got really cut, I mean really cut, this fat will go.


I’ve switched my routine to strength, toning and weight-loss, so as to give the effect of a larger schlong.

Also, I’ve been a little reluctant to gain more girth since my current proportions give the effect of a longer larger unit, and one of my aims is kind of to have a ‘porn-star dick’.

Having said that, I am now working on girth.


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Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
AJ, if you got really cut, I mean really cut, this fat will go. At the very least, it will look more appealing, not to mention the rest of you will look better. See my latest thread on the fitness forum.

In my mind’s eye, 8” BPEL will never be very large, but as a consolation prize, if they girl I’m with thinks its very large, I’ll be semi-content (until I build a bigger unit that is).

GENETICS. Really. Yes, if I lost some weight, it would go down, but I have NEVER had less than a 1” fat pad. (even when I was a well oiled professional athlete) You also seemed to ignore the measuring issue with “NPEL”. 8” BPEL is very large, really. The dick size doesn’t change AT ALL when the fat pad changes. I’ll be back next week to debate. ;)


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Acid Jazz, what sport did you do professionally? I’m curious :)

Originally Posted by man-of-10
Acid Jazz, what sport did you do professionally? I’m curious :)

I’m curious myself, but perhaps it might not be a good idea to announce that kind of info on the forum, maybe in a PM. I know I don’t even like talking about what profession I’m going to school for, call me paranoid, but I don’t like giving out too much personal info.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

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