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Shedding the Snake: Peeling to Remove Discoloration

<<<I’m a little disappointed plain acid didn’t take the darkness out evenly. You’re probably right about the scum being in different layers.>>>

I wish we had someone who was less concerned with dick privacy who was doing this so we could actually *see* what exactly you mean by it being kind of uneven. I’m sure someone’ll be bound to do this and take pics eventually though. However, any way you slice it this definitely seems like a method for dealing with discoloration for those prone to it. A real boon.

Super mega thanks to hobby for bravely pioneering this and for those others who have bravely experminented. Wart remover! Who’d-a-thunk!? You guys rock.


THEN: bpel 6.0 eg 5.0 bpfsl 6.125 NOW: bpel 7.375 eg 5.25 bpfsl 7.625

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"Right now our only hope is in the hydrogen bomb." - Charles Bukowski

Good work Alffie!

I’m pleased to hear it’s all gone smoothly. I think when I come to peel I will take my time. I am closest to Type I skin - Never tans, always burns (extremely fair skin, blonde hair, blue/green eyes), so I think perhaps I should begin at 15% acid for a short period and note the effects. It sounds like there is a scary few days where your dick looks a lot worse, but I’m glad guys like you and hobby have described it so it won’t come as a shock. My concern is still that no-one here appears to have done this on an uncut dick. Looking at the foreskin, it looks pretty thin, with veins that look very close to the surface. I also have a couple of papillae (tiny white bumps) that seem just under a thin layer of skin. Obviously I don’t want to burn anything but skin off, so I will take the cautious approach when the time comes. But thanks for posting your results.


Start Stats:5.5x4.5 Current:7.0x5.0 Goal:8x6 Gains:1.5 inch BPEL x 0.5 EG

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I’ll see if I can find my digital camera and takes some pictures. Mind you, it will just be “after’s,” but at least you will see the different colors. How does one post pictures on this forum? Is there an instruction location I can refer to?

Originally Posted by wantsmore
<<<I’m a little disappointed plain acid didn’t take the darkness out evenly. You’re probably right about the scum being in different layers.>>>

I wish we had someone who was less concerned with dick privacy who was doing this so we could actually *see* what exactly you mean by it being kind of uneven. I’m sure someone’ll be bound to do this and take pics eventually though. However, any way you slice it this definitely seems like a method for dealing with discoloration for those prone to it. A real boon.

Super mega thanks to hobby for bravely pioneering this and for those others who have bravely experminented. Wart remover! Who’d-a-thunk!? You guys rock.

As to the 15%, I think this is a good idea. The key is to see the frost, I think. You could apply the solution, and then wait either 90 seconds (the maximum amount of time they recommend), or until you see the frosting. I had a hell of a time getting the bottom of my penis to frost. Then, I thought I over did it — too much frying. But, it turns out it did not remove as much color as it did on the top. I think the skin is thicker on the bottom, maybe due to fluid building up there after pumping, and then sort of congealing. I think this acid treatment only hits the top layer of skin, and the more you use it only makes the top skin leave faster (me — 5 days, and most of it by 4 days, and hobby’s took 7 days). Both of us still had remnants of hemosiderin. I don’t think I could have fried my dick more than I did — 12 minutes, with much of it at 25% to get the frosting — and still my skin still has basically the same multicolors that hobby has while using only the compound W formula.

The sites I visited in researching this seem to indicate the 25% (or 30% or 40%) is used later, after the initial peels — maybe means the skin gets tougher to peel?

As to the way it looks, no amount of warning will prepare you for this. It looks fucking scary!

Originally Posted by chad66
Good work Alffie!

I’m pleased to hear it’s all gone smoothly. I think when I come to peel I will take my time. I am closest to Type I skin - Never tans, always burns (extremely fair skin, blonde hair, blue/green eyes), so I think perhaps I should begin at 15% acid for a short period and note the effects. It sounds like there is a scary few days where your dick looks a lot worse, but I’m glad guys like you and hobby have described it so it won’t come as a shock. My concern is still that no-one here appears to have done this on an uncut dick. Looking at the foreskin, it looks pretty thin, with veins that look very close to the surface. I also have a couple of papillae (tiny white bumps) that seem just under a thin layer of skin. Obviously I don’t want to burn anything but skin off, so I will take the cautious approach when the time comes. But thanks for posting your results.

As to your having your foreskin (congratulations, by the way), I do not think this will be a problem. I hit my circumcision scar area, which is probably more tender and thin than your foreskin, and it peeled off just fine. And, that part actually hurt less. Again, I think skin thickness is a determining factor with the trauma and effectiveness of the peeling.

Originally Posted by chad66
My concern is still that no-one here appears to have done this on an uncut dick. Looking at the foreskin, it looks pretty thin, with veins that look very close to the surface. I also have a couple of papillae (tiny white bumps) that seem just under a thin layer of skin.

Originally Posted by alffie
As to the 15%, I think this is a good idea. The key is to see the frost, I think. You could apply the solution, and then wait either 90 seconds (the maximum amount of time they recommend), or until you see the frosting. I had a hell of a time getting the bottom of my penis to frost. Then, I thought I over did it — too much frying. But, it turns out it did not remove as much color as it did on the top. I think the skin is thicker on the bottom, maybe due to fluid building up there after pumping, and then sort of congealing. I think this acid treatment only hits the top layer of skin, and the more you use it only makes the top skin leave faster (me — 5 days, and most of it by 4 days, and hobby’s took 7 days). Both of us still had remnants of hemosiderin. I don’t think I could have fried my dick more than I did — 12 minutes, with much of it at 25% to get the frosting — and still my skin still has basically the same multicolors that hobby has while using only the compound W formula.

The sites I visited in researching this seem to indicate the 25% (or 30% or 40%) is used later, after the initial peels — maybe means the skin gets tougher to peel?

So are you gonna continue to do any PE Alffie, or is this you out of the game?

As for attaching pictures, it’s easy. Just compose a post and scroll down to Attach Files. You can then upload any file on your hard-drive.

I don’t think there’s enough stuff on this site about discoloration, so when it comes my turn I will take before, during and after pics. Sounds like the ‘during’ pics could be a horror show!


Start Stats:5.5x4.5 Current:7.0x5.0 Goal:8x6 Gains:1.5 inch BPEL x 0.5 EG

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>As to your having your foreskin (congratulations, by the way), I do not think this will be a problem. I hit my circumcision scar area, which is probably more tender and thin than your foreskin, and it peeled off just fine.

My scariest and deepest burn was when I did the area between my circ scar and head. I got all the darkening in one peel, but it sure stung.

Originally Posted by chad66
So are you gonna continue to do any PE Alffie, or is this you out of the game?

I hope I am not kicked out of this forum by stating this, but I have not yet done real PEing. I mean, I did get the pump and cylinders. But that does not work, right? I need to get information on the different PEing methods everyone is using. I only found this forum after I developed the hemosiderin problem, and then I did a variety of google searches on my issue. That is where I found out about hemsiderin, and later Hobby’s excellent post. I guess I am open to PEing, if it does not cause me to have blood building up in the penis skin areas. I will have to learn about the different types of PEing that actually work. Until then, I am satisfied with my existing penis — about 6” to 6.25” (depending how happy I am) and 5” girth. I just wish it was only one color.

Originally Posted by alffie
I guess I am open to PEing, if it does not cause me to have blood building up in the penis skin areas. I will have to learn about the different types of PEing that actually work.

Well you’re in the right place to find out about it. For the record I gained an inch of length with absolutely no discoloration, by doing a light routine. I got all my discoloration from being greedy and impatient and pushing things too far. If nothing else it might be worth you trying a kegeling routine. This is zero-risk exercise that will give you stronger erections but nothing else.


Start Stats:5.5x4.5 Current:7.0x5.0 Goal:8x6 Gains:1.5 inch BPEL x 0.5 EG

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chad66: absolutely fantastic that you’re going to post before/during/after pics. I’m still a long way off from needing to do this, but when/if the time comes this is exactly the kind of stuff that will help us all make our own decisions and will also help us to develop this method into an intelligent regimen.

alffie: How did you come about your discoloration if you don’t PE? I don’t get it. Although I thoroughly understand hanging around here with no PE experience as it’s a pretty cool place. Perhaps an explanation as to how you came across your hemosiderin deposits in the first place might shed a little more light on some of the conditions that make them happen.


THEN: bpel 6.0 eg 5.0 bpfsl 6.125 NOW: bpel 7.375 eg 5.25 bpfsl 7.625

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"Right now our only hope is in the hydrogen bomb." - Charles Bukowski

I suggest waiting at least a couple months after peeling before you start PEing. Longer might be better. I rushed back into PE, and my skin darkened quicker and easier than it did originally.

I never had any darkening between my circ scar and head until I did an extremely intense Extreme Uli routine. My peeling brought that skin back to 100% pristine condition, but subsequent low-moderate intensity PE has caused some darkening there again. Maybe once discoloration has occurred the skin is more prone to it from then on. Thrombosed veins are that way. Once a vein has clogged it will clog again with far less provocation.

I bought a pump and cylinder from a place in El Cajon, Califorina. I guess I thought I was PEing, but I have later learned (maybe wrong) that pumping alone will not cause increased length or girth (hold off on the flames if some out there disagree). I did it for awhile, pumping it up too much, I guess (12 whatevers, and then to 15 whatevers), thinking it would increase the size of my penis. It did not. While doing this, my penis would become fuild engorged. It actually looked very puffy, but not longer. It was during this time that I started devolping the darkness. I assumed that it would all go away once I stopped pumping. It did not. Instead, I developed blackish looking skin that looked sort of bronze and metalic when I was erect. It was this condition that caused me to do the internet search, discover this forum, and Hobby’s “shedding the snake” thread.

Originally Posted by wantsmore
alffie: How did you come about your discoloration if you don’t PE? I don’t get it. Although I thoroughly understand hanging around here with no PE experience as it’s a pretty cool place. Perhaps an explanation as to how you came across your hemosiderin deposits in the first place might shed a little more light on some of the conditions that make them happen.

Originally Posted by chad66
For the record I gained an inch of length with absolutely no discoloration, by doing a light routine. I got all my discoloration from being greedy and impatient and pushing things too far. If nothing else it might be worth you trying a kegeling routine. This is zero-risk exercise that will give you stronger erections but nothing else.

Which method did you use to get the 1” gain? Is it the same one that you overdid it on to get the discoloration? By the way, I am still looking for the camera so I can post pictures.

If Hobby is out there, what do you think is the appropriate wait time to do the next peel, timing it from the date the last peel was completed and the skin completely shedded?

Originally Posted by alffie
Which method did you use to get the 1” gain? Is it the same one that you overdid it on to get the discoloration?

I got the first inch from jelqing and occasional stretches. I think a lot of people see a ‘Newbie’ gain of about half an inch very quickly. I gained this much in about 6 weeks. Once my gains stalled I stopped, not resuming again for 9 months. I then found another half inch came just as quickly.

I got the discoloration from doing squeezes and possibly clamping. This was after I’d gained 1.5 inches of length and had hit a plateau for three months. What I should have done is stopped for six months, but I tried to break through the plateau by doing more intense sessions. It didn’t work and all I got was discoloration that didn’t fade.

So long as you’re willing to be patient, I think you can do very successful PE without getting discoloration. But whilst I’m still doing exercises it seems pretty pointless to do a peel. I’d like to get my length gains to 2 inches and my girth to an inch bigger, and then I can peel and quit PE forever.


Start Stats:5.5x4.5 Current:7.0x5.0 Goal:8x6 Gains:1.5 inch BPEL x 0.5 EG

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>If Hobby is out there, what do you think is the appropriate wait time to do the next peel, timing it from the date the last peel was completed and the skin completely shedded?

For the most part I waited 2 weeks between burns on a given area, e.g., burn on the 1st and then again on the 15th.

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