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Safety of "around the waist" ADS?

Originally Posted by mravg
I recently started using the around the waist configuration more frequently with my vacextender head. I had really decreased my extender hours lately, due to general inconvenience and discomfort, so I thought around the waist would be a good alternative to get more hours in.

After a few days of 3-4 hours of around the waist, along with 2-3 hours extender, my dick would not get hard!

At first I didn’t make the connection, but recently went out of town for a few days, and didn’t bring my vacextender. I have healed.

I think the problem with the around the waist set up is the pressure on the side of the base of the penis, where the ring or loop presses.

I know that there are often problems with penis fatigue and erection problems caused by PE over training, but this seems to be different for me. I felt like my penis was really damaged, even though the around the waist set up is comfortable and rather mild as PE goes.

It was a bit scary, but I seem to be back to normal. Something to look for if you use this type of ADS.

Don’t buy such a crappy ADS :) . I’ve never had problems going around the waist and I extended my penis for 24/7 for months.

What kind of around the waist ADS were you using?

As far as the vac extender set up, I don’t think there is anything crappy about it. The vacuum head is probably the safest and most comfortable possible attachment method, and pressure on the base from the loop or ring is inherent in any around the waist set up.

It seems that many guys use this type of configuration without problems, so I may have just over done it, or not taken enough breaks. One problem with that type of ADS is that it may be too comfortable, so you forget to take enough breaks.


Horny Bastard

Originally Posted by mravg
What kind of around the waist ADS were you using?

As far as the vac extender set up, I don’t think there is anything crappy about it. The vacuum head is probably the safest and most comfortable possible attachment method, and pressure on the base from the loop or ring is inherent in any around the waist set up.

It seems that many guys use this type of configuration without problems, so I may have just over done it, or not taken enough breaks. One problem with that type of ADS is that it may be too comfortable, so you forget to take enough breaks.

Nah I was using vacuum. It was from TheGRIP though, which seems to be what the autoextender is based on. Those are the only two vacuum devices that can go around the waist. The MaxVac is just the chamber.

Phallosan is also a vacuum based around the waist product. It looks like they have a nice cushy loop for the base.

http://www.phallosan.com/us/produkt.php


Horny Bastard

Yeah but that’s $280. I got my hanger and ADS combo + all that other accessory jazz for $180. I mean, why would you even use a ring, especially if it’s bothering you?

I’ve been using the 5/8” dia nylon rope loop that I mentioned more than the ring, but have used both up until now because they both give me the same amount of soreness and neither have caused my dick to drop dead until recently.


Horny Bastard

Interesting. Why do you think that is?

I think the metal ring and the rope loop both have pluses and minuses. The rope is soft, and spreads out the load, but might cause some irritation from skin friction. The metal ring is smooth so it doesn’t have the friction problem. Although you would think the small diameter of the metal ring would cause a lot of pressure in that one area, it doesn’t seem to be that much different than the rope. In some ways, it might feel better to have a smaller area under pressure as opposed to a larger area.


Horny Bastard

When I was using my home made vacuum ADS around the waist for 10+ hours every day I used a robe-belt. I fastened it to the head piece and wrapped it around my waist, two rounds, snugly, and just put the end around the belt where it ended.

You do not have to use it with a ring at the base. I did this at first also but encountered the same pain you have so I did the above. Made it so comfortable I could not feel it. Did back flips with it on (wore it at work..).

If the belt does not slip, the force will stretch your penis just fine. I do believe that we veterans will need something a bit more intense before we use the ADS. I only used it for about 14 days but I did not gain.

You should come and log your efforts in my trial mravg! If you are still active you can log your efforts in the ADS ++ group!

Originally Posted by babbis
You do not have to use it with a ring at the base. I did this at first also but encountered the same pain you have so I did the above. Made it so comfortable I could not feel it. Did back flips with it on (wore it at work..).
Why were you doing back flips at work?

Do we have another acrobat?

You work for Cirque Du Soleil, don’t you?


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That sounds like an interesting set up Babbis. No base ring sounds good to me. I might try it. I have thought about logging in your trial, as it might help me be more consistant. But I’ve got a couple of problems:

1. I’m lazy

2. I spend too much time at Thunders and hesitate to find another web site to “waste” time on. I would have preferred if you did it in this forum.

3. I am not good about keeping track of times and stuff.

4. I’m lazy.


Horny Bastard

Originally Posted by mravg
That sounds like an interesting set up Babbis. No base ring sounds good to me. I might try it. I have thought about logging in your trial, as it might help me be more consistant. But I’ve got a couple of problems:
1. I’m lazy
2. I spend too much time at Thunders and hesitate to find another web site to “waste” time on. I would have preferred if you did it in this forum.
3. I am not good about keeping track of times and stuff.
4. I’m lazy.

I never have worn a ring. Of course I never knew why people would.

So are you saying that you used a set up similar to what Babbis describes?

It probably works ok, and I will try it. But I think the ring could allow higher tensions, don’t you think?


Horny Bastard

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy
Why were you doing back flips at work?

Do we have another acrobat?

You work for Cirque Du Soleil, don’t you?

Yes, I am a physical educational teacher at a high school so I get to do all kinds of fun stuff! :D

Originally Posted by mravg
That sounds like an interesting set up Babbis. No base ring sounds good to me. I might try it. I have thought about logging in your trial, as it might help me be more consistant. But I’ve got a couple of problems:
1. I’m lazy
2. I spend too much time at Thunders and hesitate to find another web site to “waste” time on. I would have preferred if you did it in this forum.
3. I am not good about keeping track of times and stuff.
4. I’m lazy.

Yes, you should try it, makes it very comfortable and stealthy. Of course, one would get more tension with a fulcrum (the ring) but the question is; Do we need more tension with a ADS?

Regarding the trial, no problem, I completely understand! I would have loved to do the trial here but I am not sure ThunderSS would be so crazy about my ideas of separate forums that are open only to the ones that are using that routine.. :)

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