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Rethinking how much size matters to women

Women are built different just the same as men are. What one woman might say is big…isn’t considered big by another. There are women out there who cant take all of one mans cock, while there are others who can take it all and more.

We as men seem to forget this.We can say women may think an 8x6 is the ideal size….well some women would tell you thats too big, some would say its perfect, some would say its ok, and some would say its better than usual but would want more than that. Why?…….Because they are all built different!

We as men all have a different “Ideal” perception of womens anatomy, but it differs from man to man. Women are no different. We as men might say boob size don’t matter….but deep down in ways it does doesn’t it? I love the heel out of BIG boobs! But I will play with little ones too. Some women have absolutely no boobs at all! But there are other attributes they can have to float my boat.

And guys….women ARE sensitive about their boobs as much as we are about our dicks. The woman with a “C” cup is worried about her man liking some woman with a “D” cup. Well there is such a thing as too little, and too big with penises and boobs. But they both can be overlooked by other attributes about a person.

Were all worried our womans’ ideal size is something other than we have. It dont mean they dont love what we have. How many of us have he perfect ideal woman? In boobs, legs, vagina, hair, weight, personality, complexion etc….. My guess is that we all want something a little more or less about our women to be the “Ideal” woman. But does that mean we don’t love what we have? Of course not!

Dont even begin to feel bad if your not what some women think is the “Ideal” size. Chances are that they are not your “Ideal” size either.

Not all vaginas are the same!


"Confidence is a hell of a drug!"

:jelq:

Originally Posted by wda628
If that was directed to me, my numbers aren’t much more beyond yours. Which is why I feel mine is average at best. I can only say I wish I had your self confidence to go on enjoying mine instead of constantly stressing over it.

But, the actual average for NBPEL is about 2 inches less than your measurement. Given that SD is about an inch, then you’re in the top 5%. That’s not even CLOSE to being “average at best”.

What do you have to say about this? Are you aware of all the data on the average penis size?


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

Originally Posted by wda628
Probably too long of a story to post really. Some childhood and upbringing stuff probably plays into it a bit. I never had a bad “sexual” encounter with negative feedback or the like. The thing that is burned into my mind happened about 14 years ago (I’m 33) and I for some reason showed it (not erect) to a female friend and she just quickly said “that’s a baby one”.
At least that is the most “recent” one and the one that I place the blame on. Actually the blame should really fall on me and how I’ve handled it all these years. It has lead to some embarrassing moments in my life, increasingly so as of late.
My wife was only with 2 other men a total of 3 times before me and I absolutely will not get past it all of the sudden. It only began bothering me in the last six months or so as my inadequacies have increased. I have convinced myself that one, or both of them was “packing” much more than I am and that they were far better lovers than I have ever been to her. I don’t want to think this way, it hurts, but literally everyday I battle this crap.

I’m glad you’re seeing someone about this, because it doesn’t seem like you are able to deal with this issue on your own - Have you specifically discussed with your MHP your anxiety/fear that your wife was with larger men and that they were also better lovers? If so, what did she say?

You should bring up this incident from 14 years ago too. Somehow this has haunted you for 1/3 of your life - totally an unacceptable burden and one you don’t have to be saddled with.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

Originally Posted by wda628

Wow kimish, I thought I was the only goofball that brought that stuff up to friends, and pretty much anybody who I think may have the slightest interest in hearing about it. It really is annoying. But at the same time I don’t want to be some doped up numb sheep that has no sex drive. I already have been seeing a psychiatrist for close to a year. She treats it kind of like ocd, and I have been on the tricyclic Anafranil for the better part of it. Also some adderall for what they assume is add. I am drawing alot of links to all of this, the bdd included, to bi-polar. Whatever it is I just want to continue on with my “normal” life and not be some freak that thinks about his dick, and sizing up the “competition”, every damn day.

Good luck to you too

Originally Posted by wda628

NBPEL 7(ish)”

You think you’re small? Are you being honest about your current size? NBPEL of 7” implies you’ve got at least 8” BPEL, unless you’re leaner than normal (then you’re at least 7.5” BPEL). The first step towards sound mental health and progress is to be honest with yourself. You keep saying how you think you’re small. Are you being honest about your measurements? I find it hard to believe that you could be 8” BPEL and still think you’re small. I’m thinking you’re not telling us your true measurements.

Size matter for mist women I think. My girlfriend size doesn’t matter unless it’s really tiny. She say that she can understand that guys wanna have a bigger dick in a one night stand but it doesn’t matter that much and in a relationship it doesn’t matter at all because the sex can be great no matter the size of the penis. I got 8 inch erect length and sometime when we have sex I don’t push it all in. After a while she will tell me to push it all the way in, she want it deep she say. I have asked why and she says because it feels much better and gets a bit frustrated. So if size doesn’t matter as she say there should be no need to push it in all the way. I know this is stupid, of course I should use it all but it’s fun to tease a little and it’s also proof that for her it feels better when she gets it deeper so size matter. That’s why I decided to do PE so I can give her even deeper sex and some more girth. I know for a fact that shed had a real monster dick once some years ago and this is so damn annoying since she really seems to like it deep. Even thou she says size doesn’t matter it obviously does.

Originally Posted by blink2000
You think you’re small? Are you being honest about your current size? NBPEL of 7” implies you’ve got at least 8” BPEL, unless you’re leaner than normal (then you’re at least 7.5” BPEL). The first step towards sound mental health and progress is to be honest with yourself. You keep saying how you think you’re small. Are you being honest about your measurements? I find it hard to believe that you could be 8” BPEL and still think you’re small. I’m thinking you’re not telling us your true measurements.

My pictures are on here for all to see. I try not to give false information. If anything I try to err on the side of caution and give more conservative numbers than others may. My girth is of especial concern. I know the numbers. I know the so called “averages” and I know my numbers. When I physically see my own penis, and how close it is to the “averages”, though slightly above, I am just not impressed. Hell, even here on TP alone there are hundreds of guys with above average penises and this is a place where people come with hopes of getting bigger. That tells me that there are millions of men out there content with what they have, and content for a reason. It also tells me the ratios for these “averages” are out of whack. I would say the more real world average to be 6.5-7.5 length and 5.5 - 5.75 girth.


Current average: NBPEL 7(ish)" / MSEG: 5.25"

ST Goal : NBPEL: 7" / MSEG: 5.5"

LT Goal: NBPEL: 7.25" / MSEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Fantom
I’m glad you’re seeing someone about this, because it doesn’t seem like you are able to deal with this issue on your own - Have you specifically discussed with your MHP your anxiety/fear that your wife was with larger men and that they were also better lovers? If so, what did she say?

You should bring up this incident from 14 years ago too. Somehow this has haunted you for 1/3 of your life - totally an unacceptable burden and one you don’t have to be saddled with.


Trust me, I need all the help I can get. Even just talking with some of you on here is helpful. I just want everyone to understand that I am not here in search of an ego boost and a post full of how lucky I am to have such a big penis. I can be told that until I am blue in the face, and while I appreciate the kind words, it absolutely doesn’t have an effect on my self esteem, respect, or outlook. At least not near the impact that that one comment by a female friend some years ago had on me.

I have to share a small glimpse on just how F’d up I really am. As of late I have been sending pictures to past female friends and hookups. I am looking for their feedback now that we are more adult-like and have experienced others. I have even gotten up the courage to send some to the girl that said the small comment. I just did that today and am awaiting her response. Do you know how screwed up it is for a grown man with a loving wife and kids to do this. I know it is flat out wrong and of the highest level of disrespect to my wife, but yet I cannot fight the urge to do it. Something is truely deeply wrong with me.


Current average: NBPEL 7(ish)" / MSEG: 5.25"

ST Goal : NBPEL: 7" / MSEG: 5.5"

LT Goal: NBPEL: 7.25" / MSEG: 6"

Stop doing it. Think about your wife and kids. That’s too much pain that you can cause.

Originally Posted by wda628
Trust me, I need all the help I can get. Even just talking with some of you on here is helpful. I just want everyone to understand that I am not here in search of an ego boost and a post full of how lucky I am to have such a big penis. I can be told that until I am blue in the face, and while I appreciate the kind words, it absolutely doesn’t have an effect on my self esteem, respect, or outlook. At least not near the impact that that one comment by a female friend some years ago had on me.

I have to share a small glimpse on just how F’d up I really am. As of late I have been sending pictures to past female friends and hookups. I am looking for their feedback now that we are more adult-like and have experienced others. I have even gotten up the courage to send some to the girl that said the small comment. I just did that today and am awaiting her response. Do you know how screwed up it is for a grown man with a loving wife and kids to do this. I know it is flat out wrong and of the highest level of disrespect to my wife, but yet I cannot fight the urge to do it. Something is truely deeply wrong with me.

I seen your pics and you have a good size unit even though you probably won’t believe me or anyone. It sounds like your problem is mostly a mental one (perhaps anxiety-related?). Maybe you need to consider some type of other therapy you haven’t tried or new medication? I believe we are about the same length and pretty well every female I’ve been with considered me on the larger side. Sometimes anxiety can really mess up with your mind with respect to how you see your unit and/or body, etc. or how you interpret certain comments particularly from females.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by wda628
My pictures are on here for all to see. I try not to give false information. If anything I try to err on the side of caution and give more conservative numbers than others may. My girth is of especial concern. I know the numbers. I know the so called “averages” and I know my numbers. When I physically see my own penis, and how close it is to the “averages”, though slightly above, I am just not impressed. Hell, even here on TP alone there are hundreds of guys with above average penises and this is a place where people come with hopes of getting bigger. That tells me that there are millions of men out there content with what they have, and content for a reason. It also tells me the ratios for these “averages” are out of whack. I would say the more real world average to be 6.5-7.5 length and 5.5 - 5.75 girth.

The important thing you are not taking into account is that the scientific data says you’re pretty big. You are letting your anecdotal and cherry picked experiences determine your outlook, even though if you were to consider it rationally you would be able to make the distinction between your personal slice of “experience” and the greater whole - this is the entire purpose of Science, really. Being able to use the scientific method to come up with a “bigger picture”. After all, when you only consider your personal slice of reality, it’s pretty easy to wind up with conclusions that the earth is flat.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

Originally Posted by wda628
My pictures are on here for all to see. I try not to give false information. If anything I try to err on the side of caution and give more conservative numbers than others may.


Alright, in that case I guess you’re just scarred mentally by what happened when you were younger. You probably shouldn’t send all those pictures to your old flames and old friends. Even if some of them validate you, will that cure how you feel?

Maybe the only way to ‘fix’ how you feel is to improve yourself. Get to a size that makes you happy. Start PEing & don’t stop till you get there. Otherwise, anything else might just end up being a bandaid for you.

My point is this: if being your current size causes you this much pain, I suggest you do something about it. You know the saying, worrying is like a rocking chair. You can do it all day but you wont get anywhere. In some ways, that’s what your worries are. Instead of paying a therapist, why not spend some cash on a new ADS or a new hanger! Turn those worries into actions—I don’t see how else you’ll ever get over it. Instead of 5,000 hours of therapy, how about a few thousand hours of PE! I mean—really, what will a therapist do? Unless he/ she is helping you PE, you’re really just paying someone to tell you to be happy with the way you are. And I’m saying, if you’re not happy with the way you are, then bite the bullet & work on yourself.

I hope I don’t sound too harsh, but I (like many others) am not happy about how I am. So I am here on thunders to improve myself (at least in terms of penis size). Lots of us are in the same boat as you.


Last edited by blink2000 : 08-03-2010 at .

Originally Posted by blink2000
Instead of paying a therapist, why not spend some cash on a new ADS or a new hanger! Turn those worries into actions—I don’t see how else you’ll ever get over it. Instead of 5,000 hours of therapy, how about a few thousand hours of PE! I mean—really, what will a therapist do? Unless he/ she is helping you PE, you’re really just paying someone to tell you to be happy with the way you are. And I’m saying, if you’re not happy with the way you are, then bite the bullet & work on yourself.

Sorry, I forgot. In most of Canada, psychiatrists and many therapists are free. From someone who has suffered from a mild anxiety disorder since I was a kid (not saying he does although he did mention something about it), I can tell you that seeing a psychiatrist and/or therapist can sometimes help, a lot. Assuming that one suffers from such a condition. You can have a 10” unit but if your’e not there mentally (as I wasn’t in some aspects of my life-e.g. work) it might not have much of an impact. Just my opinion, based on my own biased experiences, obviously.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Assuming that no amount of size would make him happy, then yes, therapy could possibly be the only answer.

Originally Posted by wda628
My pictures are on here for all to see. I try not to give false information. If anything I try to err on the side of caution and give more conservative numbers than others may. My girth is of especial concern. I know the numbers. I know the so called “averages” and I know my numbers. When I physically see my own penis, and how close it is to the “averages”, though slightly above, I am just not impressed. Hell, even here on TP alone there are hundreds of guys with above average penises and this is a place where people come with hopes of getting bigger. That tells me that there are millions of men out there content with what they have, and content for a reason. It also tells me the ratios for these “averages” are out of whack. I would say the more real world average to be 6.5-7.5 length and 5.5 - 5.75 girth.

The real world average penis size is most certainly not 6.5-7.5” in length and 5.5-5.75” in girth. If you really believe that you do have a distorted sense of reality.

Let’s all just give it up. Less than 8x6 then you aint got nothing special. Doesn’t mean you aren’t big, above average, average whatever and can’t fuck like a porn star. Just isn’t all that special.

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