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Rethinking Gain Problems

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Hi CK,
both Bird and Klayton have many valid points to consider.

My two-cents worth is to:-

a) refine your jelqing - go back to basics and make sure your technique is spot-on (3 second jelqs are a must) and that you are doing the right number of reps with the overall aim of neither under or over-training.

b) skin drag seems to come with the (jelqing) territory - I have found my cut-guy’s skin has loosened up in the 8 months of me PE’ing. It might be time to consider what the uncut guys mostly do; dry-jelqs. I actually do a form of single handed dry-jelqs but because I am a loose skinned cut (as opposed to a plenty-of-skin uncut) I use some lube to keep things moving nicely. Throw in some Ulis and maybe some erect bends and for no monetary outlay you should begin to slowly gain

c) I share Bird’s philosophy of take the gains wherever they come from. I’ve been stuck just on 7” from a few months but because my girth has been steadily growing I don’t care. Girth (as most around here agree) is not only a great visual turn-on it also keeps the ladies (and I guess men if you were from that persuasion) groaning for more

d) If you’re going to spend money on equipment have a good look at all the options. There are now many to choose from. Personally I did not go down the hanging path because it doesn’t fit my lifestyle - I just don’t have the hours required to hang. I have been a (Monty) air-clamp and am just now combining it with a newly acquired pump and doing a jelq -pump - clamp routine but with only 3 minute bursts of pumping (see Dangleman’s thread pump’n clamp). I’m also due to take delivery of a monkeybar ADS that hopefully will help to cement a decent flaccid hang.

I guess what I am trying to say is to carefully think about what PE you are going to ‘enjoy’ doing and what things that are going to fit your lifestyle. I honestly think you have to love doing it. As soon as it becomes a chore you’re unlikely to gain ever. But providing you can enjoy your PE and are prepared to be persistent and consistent the gains will surely come.


LWH

"Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship"

- Humphrey Bogart to Claude Raines, Casablanca

I’m not sure I have gotten such an avid response from any of the posts I have done here. It really means a lot that you guys want my penis bigger just as much as I; also, you want my penis to stay safe and connected to my body without deformity. Haha.

I think from all the advice here I need to rethink my PE strategy. I was going about it all wrong and I was doing it like a chore/semi-masturbation. I only went by the clock. But after month 3 of the Newbie Routine I took to Bird2’s recommendations:

Length:
7x3 min stretching (l,r,dl,dr,you,d,so)
2x3 min invented v stretch [this one I could actually feel a stretch in my shaft, no where else though]
2x3 min two way stretch [liked this one, felt the stretch in the skin at least]
4x15 JAI stretches [never really took to, although I think I may start adding this in with a new routine]
10 min low intensity (20-40% erection) jelqing [this was hard for me because I would usually end up too erect before I finished]

Girth:
2x10 min clamping [took this up around month 4-5 and followed directions below]
10 Ulis [did some but gave lots of red spots so I only did them occasionally]
10 horses [did occasionally for same reasons as above]
10 min high intensity (60-80% erection) jelqing [I need to start jelqing, like you guys said, make sure it is not too slow and not too fast, with proper tension and placement]

Always do this:
5x20 sec Amazing Isometrics [I enjoyed these for as long as I could keep an erection]
Kegels [I’ve been doing kegels since 6th grade]
Edging (not necessarily daily) [Woooot this one is hard to not finally go over the.. Edge with]

Do this 7 on/0 off or 6 on/1 off. [I did random like 3 days on/1 off, 2 days on/2 off, 4 days on/1 off.. I was just doing what fit my schedule]

Slowly build up, start the stretches and advanced stretches with 1 minute to each direction, add 30 seconds every two weeks if everything goes well until you hit the 3 minutes. Start jelqing at both 5 minutes for girth and length and add 1 minute every two weeks if everything goes well until you hit the 10 minutes. Also start clamping at 5 minutes each repetition and add 1 minute each two weeks until you hit the 10 minutes too. Do this to slowly build up, just like in bodybuilding. [Good advice, always need to start off slowly]

I think all in all I just need to stick to routines more thoroughly. I am going to start out again on an advanced newbie routine for a month or two. Then I am going to up it slowly. If I do not see gains by this summer, which I am sure I will this time.. Because I can feel it. If not though then I will post again about this and then consider hanging/pumping/ADS.

Thank you all! I love this forum and the support! Manual exercises, be prepared for an attack. If not machinery beware!


5/16/06 - BPSFL: 7" BPEL: 6.5" EL: 6" EG: 4.75"

Goal - 7.5"x5.5"

"If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all."

OUCH!, I can’t get over the thought of plucking hairs from my penis!!

I have hairs that grow even further up my penis, I shave everything, have also heard folks here talking about ways to keep hair from growing there, perhaps you might do a search on it.

Every jelq should have some focus in my opinion. At minimum, when nearly flaccid, I still take 2-3 seconds per stroke, and when closer to erect it can take 5-8 seconds per stroke. I feel that going too fast with too much force may risk injury or bruising..I also finish each jelq with a 2-4 second stretch that ‘feels’ like it is just focused on the tunica.


UberGoober

6-22-08: 7.5' BPEL, 7' NBPEL, 7.75' BPSFL, 5.25' EG

Goals: 8' NBPEL, 6' EG, 21' NBPSFL

Originally Posted by Klayton
That’s not an issue here, ck has PE’d assiduously for six months. My main concern is you are recommending clamping to somebody who hasn’t made any gains, and is still a little unsure about even his jelq technique. That’s flat out dangerous in my opinion.

Yes, I recommend them. I always did and always will do that. In my opinion clamping is one of the best, if not the best, exercise to attain girth. Why shouldn’t have ck the right to get girth gains? He, of course, is wise enough to read about on the subject and making sure that he understands it before trying it out.

Originally Posted by Klayton
Sure, I agree with you, but most people don’t have the time and/or discipline to pull on their dick for an hour a day; they can do other things while hanging.

You can do all kind of things while stretching, like for instance typing a response on Thunders, which I do now. Like LWH already said, hanging costs more time, time many people don’t have. Stretching costs less time, you only have one hand left to do something else.

Originally Posted by ck10n3
I think all in all I just need to stick to routines more thoroughly. I am going to start out again on an advanced newbie routine for a month or two. Then I am going to up it slowly. If I do not see gains by this summer, which I am sure I will this time.. Because I can feel it. If not though then I will post again about this and then consider hanging/pumping/ADS.

Thank you all! I love this forum and the support! Manual exercises, be prepared for an attack. If not machinery beware!

That will be key to your PE journey, sticking to the routine. Good to see that you see that yourself :up: .

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