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Where is your sense of humor. I believe chickenchoker was just joking.

Where did Westla show he had no sense of humor? He was just replying in a logical manner to something he felt he wanted to reply to and, address directly. He’s just expressing his view. He’s right on a very good point. I began PE with 6x5, already “average”. I wanted to see if I could get bigger just to see if this stuff worked. Not out of some angst to get bigger for the purpose of meeting a societal standard. Now I’m still going for more size again…not because I feel inadequate…I just want more size! Nothing wrong with that.

Originally posted by westla90069
Perhaps, but it's all in the perception of the individual. I started at 7” x 5.5” and did not have “concerns” about my size. I'm doing PE because a) it works, b) it's fun, most of the time, and c) if I can get bigger, why not? I don't need to be larger, I just want to.


Isn’t that my point? That those of you who started beyond 6” don’t feel a need ( unlike those of us who start under 6” ), therefore, you fall into the “want” category? Stillwantmore is in this category too.

I’m not sure if I agree on your definition of greedy. Is Bill Gates greedy?
He didn’t take money from anyone, did he? Is having $30some-billion greedy? I think so. Is there something wrong with that? No, but I just still define that as greedy.

I used the quotations around “problem” because I didn’t want to mislead people on the extent of it. Just because I say I feel inadequate because of my small dick, doesn’t mean that there is something else in my mind causing the inadequacy. When you say “I feel inadequate because my 2-seater car can only hold 1 passenger” we know that feeling of inadequacy, which is by definition A PROBLEM IN THE MIND, goes away after a 4-door car is purchased. We don’t go saying, “oh maybe you won’t be satisfied with a 4-door, maybe you want an SUV instead because maybe it’s not the size of the car that is causing issues of inadequacy in your head, so maybe you ought to see a shrink, dude…”.

If I still feel inadequate after going through the SIX INCH BARRIER, I’ll be the first to admit it. Hey I confess WANT to be 8 inches but I NEED to be 6 inches for now.

I’ll admit that I’ll never take back 2 lost decades of my sexual life so even after being in the SIX INCH LAND I might still feel somewhat inadequate but that is because of an emotional deficiency with a VARIETY of women, something that the average Joe takes for granted by the time they reach my age. This was caused directly by having a small dick and by nothing else. And I understand if you cannot truly grasp that, you-lucky-bastard-in-the-land-of-WANT, and maybe be fortunate that you cannot.

And if you read my long drawn-out post to the end, you’ll see that because of a “shallow” wife my goal is 7 x 6. Now confess that you did not read that.

Maybe I’m a lucky bastard because I also realize even in my much younger years than yours, that even men who are already average and 6”+ many times still feel inadequate and that when a man lets his penis size hold him back from having fullfilling sexual encounters for TWO DECADES of his life….there IS something wrong beyond his penis size. Many men despite their penis size be it 3” or 8”+ have very successful and fulfilling lives. Unfortunately though, there are many who let their penis size be a factor of detriment in their lives. That’s why we’re all here though. Either to gain more size out of a sheer desire because we know the possibility exists and, perhaps also out of a percieved or, admitted greed….or, to become more comfortable with what we have while working on getting what we desire in penis size. All things aside, few men actually ‘need’ a bigger penis. Usually as is most likely your case as well, the percieved ‘need’ is really just a desire, or a want. Desire and greed are two very strong human emotions. There is nothing wrong with pursuing them. I’ve known men personally with smaller than average penises whose girlfriends held them in high regards as excellent lovers. WHY? Because they did not let their penis size be an issue. They also were willing to learn other ways to satisfy their partners …such as using their hands. You seem to be very (perhaps too much so) sensitive about your penis size. Please, dont take this reply…any of it as an attack as some people might percieve it. I’m just making observations from your expressions. Ease up a little in the intensity of your replies. This is a very friendly atmosphere here.

Yes, everyone, I understand jokes, sarcasm and saying things to prove a point. I just had to point out, joking or not, that wanting more than you “need” isn’t necessarily being greedy. Greed has a negative connotation to me.

From (emphasis added)
a. Excessively desirous of acquiring or possessing, especially wishing to possess more than what one needs or deserves.
b. Having a keen desire for anything; vehemently desirous; eager to obtain; avaricious
c. immoderately desirous of acquiring; ardently or excessively desirous

I am not very good at keeping to my PE routine. In fact, I haven’t really done any exercises for the past four months. That would hardly make me greedy for more length considering the above definitions. I want more, but it’s a casual want. Greedy implies a constant, aggravated, excessive desire. I don’t have that.

Perhaps we could talk about the words jealousy or envy? Those emotions make people use words like greedy. :leftie:

Chickenchoker, they’re just words. I have no beef with you. Just wanted to provide you with another perspective.

RE: your goal. I confess only that I read hundreds of posts per day and did not re-read yours before responding. Sorry about missing it. Good luck. It can be done.

I’m sure there are men out there with 5 inchers that lead very fulfilling sex lives. They decided for themselves that size was not an issue. It was my choice to make size an issue. I believe that there was nothing else wrong with my mental state that led me to make that choice.

When I say I wasted 2 decades away, I didn’t mean that I absolutely abstained from sex. I just did not pursue it actively. I met 2 other partners before I met my wife within that time. It’s just that sex was not in the “front burner” of my agenda like I hoped it would be like most single guys and I certainly stayed away from situations like what happened with airforceones in that botched blowjob at a party. I would be mortified if that happened to me.

Hey, I love you man, you lucky bastard.

Peace. ;)

Starting: 5 BPEL x 4.5 EG on 4/19/03

Latest: 6 BPEL x 5 EG on 2/17/04

Goal: 7 BPEL x 6 EG

Originally posted by westla90069

Perhaps we could talk about the words jealousy or envy? Those emotions make people use words like greedy.


I AM JEALOUS AND ENVIOUS of lucky bastards like you and it makes me use words like greedy. Just shows you how warped communication can be with one who is hung-up on penis size. Oh well.

peace, man

:rainbow: Peace! :rainbow:

Hi chickenchoker, great to hear from you. Prolific posters seem to fall into two categories:

1) I used to be unhappy, but now I have gained 2”s in length and 1 in girth….MHAAHAHAHAW!!…
2)Never been bothered by my size, but the thought of getting bigger makes me giggle.

I hope you become a prolific poster. Often guys that start out under 6”s don’t post at all. You have excellent writing skills, please consider entering your starting and current stats in your signature line and posting like crazy. Perhaps you could draw some of the other small starting size guys out of the closet.

It’s time for the starting out ot under 5.5” revolution!!!!

Running a Massive Co-Front.

I can see Chicken’s point clearly… If we questioned others who started off in a similar area I would bet most if not all of them would claim the guys that started much bigger would indeed be greedy…


My IQ is 135. I’m not sure if that’s high but I think it’s at least average.


Thanks for the complement but hey, guys, before you put me on some sort of pedestal, just remember when I’m on my knees in front of a towel and choking the chicken, I’m just as brain dead as the next guy.

In fact, if my orgasm is particularly intense, I can’t keep my mouth closed :o so I tend to drool on the towel too.

There! Brain dead and drooling. THAT OUGHTA COMPLETE THE PRETTY PICTURE…he-he

Starting: 5 BPEL x 4.5 EG on 4/19/03

Latest: 6 BPEL x 5 EG on 2/17/04

Goal: 7 BPEL x 6 EG

Last edited by chickenchoker : 09-07-2003 at .

135 is Mensa material Son! I’m over average @ 118..

Kinda depends which of the of the test we are talking about.

Running a Massive Co-Front.

I agree with Both west and chick.

You both have perfectly valid points, but I do believe you have been arguing over technical details.

technically, I believe Bill Gates is greedy, not because of the sum of money and power he possesses, but because of his unwillingness to share it around. I mean, c’mon, seriously, what would you do with billions and billions and billions? As if you couldn’t buy everything you ever dreamed of, and have plenty left over…

I personally would be donating billions to charities and good causes. Why isn’t he? Sure a million or two here and there, but he is keeping the bulk of it for his own shady purposes.

Take me on the other hand. I want my dick to be bigger. Many would already consider it very large. You callin’ me greedy? ;)

My drive lies not in myself but externally - the main reason being that I want to be able to do things and reach places in my girl that would not otherwise be possible. Therefore, I would call my PE negative greed - I am doing it specifically for others! How selfless am I?! :D

Originally posted by regularwhiteguy
135 is Mensa material Son! I'm over average @ 118..

Are you sure? I scored 145 or so the last time I took it (long time ago, before my alcohol/drug/cigarette addictions ;) ). I thought Mensa required higher scores. Notwithstanding that, I scored high enough on my LSAT to join Mensa, but is there any reason to join them? Doesn’t sound like any actual benefits to doing so.

And secjay, people can call Bill Gates greedy, and that’s fine. I’m not defending him in any way, I can’t stand him, although I must commend his business prowess. Anyways, he is a philantropist. His original stated plan was to wait till he retires or so, and donate all of his money, only leaving each of his children with $10 million each. He wants his kids to learn and earn their way, so he isn’t leaving them with “relatively” much. $10MM is a lot, don’t get me wrong, but from his net worth of billions, it’s little.
Well he took flak for all of this, so I think him and his wife decided to start early, didn’t they donate $1 billion to the UN a few years ago? And they started the a foundation, probably will be the richest foundation in the world once fully funded.

So Bill Gates can be called many things, but I admire his drive, his determination.


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