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Ah hell that doesn’t sound right. It will be a vast improvement over the current guessing at percentages.

I tried to get something like this done in the first couple of months the forum was open and I got my ass handed to me on a plate.

Thanks for doing it MM.


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Originally Posted by PG

Originally Posted by MM

It is also important to tie questions about supplements to the time at which they were taken. Were they taken during the newbie period, or later.

Perhaps this is due to my bias against supplements’ efficacy, but I’m thinking that the supplement section is already complicated enough. Is there any particular reason to think that supplements would be effective for newbies, but not thereafter (or the other way around)? There may be ways to sort-of address this issue without adding a new question…

The intention here is to separate the “newbie effect” from the use of supplements. The first survey showed that supplements help, but I questioned whether that was because of the coincidence that newbies take more pills and also gain faster than more experienced guys.

What’s the cause of the gains? Was it newbie status, or the use of pills? I was hoping the new survey could clear this up.


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I’ll see what I can do about that in the current redesign, MM. As I’ve said, I don’t know if I’m prepared, months or years from now, to expend the time to do the proper analyses to answer all these questions really well, but the new design should at least enable us to do such research if ever we wish to.

Originally Posted by PG

Do you think that 6 weeks is widely agreed upon as a good minimum span for decon? I want to keep this simple by setting some cut-off number. I’ll use 6 if you think it’s best.

I don’t know whether 6 is the right number, but I’ve read studies that show that connective tissue loses a large percentage of its initial strength after 6 weeks of immobility. So, it’s not a bad place to start.

We could have a whole survey around decon breaks, you know. :head:


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Originally Posted by Para-Goomba

I’ll see what I can do about that in the current redesign, MM. As I’ve said, I don’t know if I’m prepared, months or years from now, to expend the time to do the proper analyses to answer all these questions really well, but the new design should at least enable us to do such research if ever we wish to.

Better to get the data and analyze it in six months or a year than not to get the data, as long as the survey doesn’t get so long that people bail out in the middle.

Another idea is to roll out different surveys focusing on different questions, but I trust you’ve already decided the single survey is the best way to go.


Enter your measurements in the PE Database.

>>>as long as the survey doesn’t get so long that people bail out in the middle.<<<

That’s the main risk of the current redesign in progress. Still, I think survey-takers will endlessly poo-poo the new survey if it doesn’t go into excruciating detail, so that’s what it will do :)

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
>>>as long as the survey doesn’t get so long that people bail out in the middle.<<<

That’s the main risk of the current redesign in progress. Still, I think survey-takers will endlessly poo-poo the new survey if it doesn’t go into excruciating detail, so that’s what it will do :)

A good goal is to shoot for no longer than an hour. After an 30 minutes, many people will become highly agitated. After an hour, many people will throw their computer out the window, quit PE, and never return to Thunder’s Place again… .

The point of remeks analogy? More than an hour, means no more statistical flour.


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Originally Posted by ModestoMan
The intention here is to separate the “newbie effect” from the use of supplements. The first survey showed that supplements help, but I questioned whether that was because of the coincidence that newbies take more pills and also gain faster than more experienced guys.

What’s the cause of the gains? Was it newbie status, or the use of pills? I was hoping the new survey could clear this up.

I am confused. In the first survey I used “total gain” as my form of analysis. How could newbie gains be the cause of pill gains? Both groups — the pill group and the non-pill group presumably had “newbies” and “experienced PE’ers”.

Also, the experienced PEers would surely have more total gain than the newbies.


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"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Thank you for choosing to participate in the Thunder’s Place PE Survey!

Please try to answer the following questions as accurately as you can. If you have no idea about the answer to a given question — if, for example, you never took a starting girth measurement — please skip the question rather than guessing wildly. Use your best judgment about what degree of guessing would be appropriate (e.g., if you remember pumping for 6 to 8 consecutive weeks at one point, “7 weeks” would be a fine answer). If your most accurate response to a question involves a decimal (e.g., 3.75 or 0.9), please feel free to include the decimal in your answer rather than rounding off to a whole digit.

It is extremely important that you answer all questions truthfully. Even if you have lied about any of these matters in your posts at Thunder’s Place, please be honest in this survey. Your individual data will not be connected to your username in the analysis process.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If it's not too much hassle, you might consider including a preliminary question about whether the participant wants to take the survey using the English measurement system (inches, pounds) or the metric system the rest of the world uses (cm, kg). If this is done, answers in cm will have to be converted automatically (into the data spreadsheet) to inches. (I plan to do analyses in English measurements, since most members here use them.)]

Section I: Your Pre-PE Penis

If you never took a particular measurement, please skip the relevant question.

1. What was your bone-pressed erect length before beginning any PE? ____ inches

2. What was your erect girth (circumference, not width!), measured at midshaft, before beginning any PE? ____ inches

3. What was your erect girth, measured at your thickest point, before beginning any PE? ____ inches

4. What was your LOT before beginning any PE? Please skip this question if you did not measure your LOT before beginning PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Drop-down menu of choices in 30-minute intervals: 12:00, 11:30, 11:00…6:00. Code these choices as 13, 12, 11…1.)

5. Before beginning any PE, did your erection have a noticeable curve (in any direction)?

__ Yes, my pre-PE penis had some curvature.

__ No, my pre-PE penis was straight.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

6. At what age did you begin PEing? ____ years old

7. Are you circumcised?

__ Yes

__ No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code “yes” as “1”, “no” as “0”.]

After this, the participant will see (although in my opinion this section isn’t all that useful for analysis purposes, and I’d be open to discarding parts of it):

Section II: Your PE Career in Summary

Throughout this and subsequent sections, the word “average” (or “typical”) is used frequently. We recognize that there is tremendous variation in men's PE regimens over time. Please do the best you can to provide an arithmetic mean to those questions that call for an “average.” For example, if you have spent half of your PE career doing 30 minutes of PE per day, and you have spent the other half doing 40 minutes of PE per day, then you have averaged 35 minutes of PE per day.

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you actively PEed? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. Throughout your whole PE career, approximately how many weeks of break have you taken in total? If you are “retired” from PE, please do not include in your calculation the weeks that have passed since you quit PE (i.e, since your final PE session). ____ weeks

3. How many days per week, on average, have you spent PEing during your phases of active PE (i.e., excluding your break weeks)? ____ days

4. How many minutes, on average, have you spent PEing on those days in which you have PEed? Please exclude rest time between “sets” of exercises from this calculation. Please also exclude time using an all-day stretcher (e.g., PE Weights) or mild traction device (e.g., Penimaster). ____ minutes

5. How many breaks of at least 6-weeks duration have you taken during your PE career? By “break,” we mean a complete cessation of (or at least a drastic reduction of) PE activities. Enter zero (0) if you haven’t taken any breaks of at least 6-weeks duration. If you have taken a large number of breaks and are uncertain of the exact number, please enter your best estimate. ____ breaks

Next, the participant sees:

Section III: Your PE Regimens & Associated Outcomes

Your First PE Regimen: The Exercises

In this section, you will be asked to describe the details of your first PE regimen — the first general routine you followed when you began PE. You may still be following roughly the same routine today, either because you are new to the PE game, or because the routine has continued to be effective for you, or because your PE routine has, in general, been fairly haphazard and erratic and you haven't bothered to try to “progress” to a more advanced routine. For those who have gone on to adopt substantially different PE regimens over time, though, you will have the opportunity to describe later regimens and their results in subsequent sections of this survey. For now, focus on your experiences during your first PE regimen.

1. For how many weeks did you use your first PE regimen? The period you specify may include break weeks within it; the end point in the period should be when you adopted a different regimen (if you haven’t yet changed regimens, then you should use today as the endpoint to the period). ____ weeks

2. Which of the following exercises were substantial components of your first PE regimen? Please check all the apply. (An exercise can be considered a “substantial” part of a PE regimen if you ever used it at least twice a week for at least two consecutive weeks.)

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g., Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be checkboxes. The following exercise sections should be presented according to what the participant checks off in response to this question.]

A. Jelqing

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you jelq as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend jelqing when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend jelqing on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you jelqed regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. How long did each jelq stroke last for you, typically, during your first PE regimen?

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Pull-down menu of options in intervals of 0.5 seconds: 0.5, 1.0, 1.5…6.0 seconds]

6. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically jelqed during your first PE regimen?

__ I jelqed the hell out of my dick; I squeezed about as hard as I could with my jelqing grip, to the point that it was sometimes uncomfortable.

__ I jelqed with fairly high intensity; I gripped my penis hard, but never quite to the point that there was any discomfort.

__ I jelqed with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I jelqed with a light grip and low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

7. How often did your jelqing sessions include a lubricant during your first PE regimen? That is, how often were they wet jelqing, rather than dry jelqing?

__ Always or almost always wet — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually wet — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes wet -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally wet — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never wet — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

8. How often were your jelqing sessions performed using jelq sticks (e.g., the Power Jelq) during your first PE regimen?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question above.]

9. Of the jelq sessions that you performed manually, how often did you use both hands, alternating, to perform your jelq strokes during your first PE regimen? (As opposed to one-handed jelqing.)

__ Always or almost always two-handed — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually two-handed — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes two-handed -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally two-handed — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never two-handed — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question above.]

10. Which of the following options best describes the level of erection with which, on average, you performed your jelqs during your first PE regimen?

__ My penis did not resist compression at the base but did expand slightly toward the glans as the stroke was performed.

__ My penis resisted compression slightly at the base and progressively more toward the glans.

__ My penis resisted compression moderately at the base and progressively more toward the glans.

__ My penis resisted compression strongly at the base and throughout the jelq stroke.

__ My penis was very hard and not easily compressible at the base and throughout the jelq stroke.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first choice as 1, the second as 2, the third as 3, the fourth as 4, and the fifth as 5.]

11. During the span of your first PE regimen, how often were your jelqing sessions preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual…]

12. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, were your warm-ups before jelqing, if you ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

13. When jelqing was part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the jelqing session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual….]

14. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, was the heat applied during jelqing, if you ever applied heat during jelqing?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as in the similar question above.]

B. Manual Stretching

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you manually stretch as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend stretching when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend stretching on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between stretches from your calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you manually stretched regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. IF you used one particular type of stretch far more than any other during your first PE regimen, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact stretch you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Standard stretch, straight out or at a higher angle.

__ Between-the-cheeks (BTC) stretch.

__ V-stretch.

__ A-stretch.

__ Bundled stretch.

__ Fulcrum stretch.

__ JAI stretch.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

6. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically stretched during the span of your first PE regimen?

__ I stretched the hell out of my dick; I yanked about as hard as I possibly could, sometimes to the point of discomfort.

__ I stretched with fairly high intensity; I pulled my penis hard, but never quite to the point that there was any discomfort.

__ I stretched with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I stretched gently with low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

7. When manual stretching was part of your first PE regimen, how often were your sessions preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

8. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, were your warm-ups before stretching, if you ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

9. When stretching was part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the stretching session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual….]

10. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, was the heat applied during stretching, if you ever applied heat during stretching?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as in the similar question above.]

C. Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you do manual girth squeezes as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend doing manual girth squeezes when they were part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend doing manual girth squeezes on days when they were a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between squeezes from this calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you did manual girth squeezes regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. IF you used one particular type of girth squeeze far more than any other during your first PE regimen, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact squeeze you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Horses

__ Uli’s

__ Jelq Squeezes

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

6. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically performed your girth squeezes during the span of your first PE regimen?

__ I squeezed the hell out of my dick; I squeezed about as hard as I could, sometimes to the point of discomfort.

__ I squeezed with fairly high intensity; I squeezed my penis hard, but never quite to the point that there was any discomfort.

__ I squeezed with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I squeezed gently with low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

7. When girth squeezes were part of your first PE regimen, how often were your sessions preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

8. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, were your warm-ups before girth squeezes, if you ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

9. When girth squeezes were part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the squeezing session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual….]

10. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, was the heat applied during girth squeezes, if you ever applied heat during squeezing?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as in the similar question above.]

D. Hanging

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you hang as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend hanging when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend hanging on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you hung weights regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. IF you used one particular angle of hanging far more than any other during your first PE regimen, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact angle you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Between the cheeks (BTC)

__ Straight down (SD)

__ Straight out (SO)

__ Over the shoulder (OTS)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 1, the second as 2, the third as 3, and the fourth as 4. (Even though I'll be using this *mainly* as a nominal variable.)]

6. What is the maximum weight, in pounds, that you hung regularly during the span of your first PE regimen (i.e., for at least one 10+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ___ pounds

7. When hanging was part of your first PE regimen, how often were your sessions preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

8. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, were your warm-ups before hanging, if you ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

9. When hanging was part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the hanging session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual….]

10. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, was the heat applied during hanging, if you ever applied heat during hanging?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as in the similar question above.]

E. Pumping

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you pump as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend pumping when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend pumping on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you pumped regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. What is the maximum pressure that you used regularly during the span of your first PE regimen (i.e., for at least one 5+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ____ inches Hg

6. When pumping was part of your first PE regimen, how often were your sessions preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

7. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, were your warm-ups before pumping, if you ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

8. When pumping was part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the pumping session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual….]

9. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, was the heat applied during pumping, if you ever applied heat during pumping?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as in the similar question above.]

F. Clamping

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you clamp as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend clamping when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend clamping on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you clamped regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. When clamping during your first PE regimen, how often did you incorporate other girth exercises (e.g., squeezes, bends) into your clamping routine?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

6. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically clamped during the span of your first PE regimen?

__ I clamped the hell out of my dick, sometimes to the point of discomfort.

__ I clamped with fairly high intensity, but never quite to the point that there was any discomfort.

__ I clamped with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I clamped gently with low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

7. When clamping was part of your first PE regimen, how often were your sessions preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

8. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, were your warm-ups before clamping, if you ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

9. When clamping was part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the clamping session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as usual….]

10. How hot, typically, during the span of your first PE regimen, was the heat applied during clamping, if you ever applied heat during clamping?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involved at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as in the similar question above.]

G. Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you use an extender device as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend using an extender device when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend using an extender device on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks from your calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you used an extender device regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. IF you used one particular type of extender device far more than any other during the span of your first PE regimen, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip this question.

__ Penimaster

__ AutoEXT

__ JES Extender

__ Other

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

H. All-Day Stretcher (e.g., Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total did you use an ADS as part of your first PE regimen, excluding breaks from the calculation? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you spend using an ADS when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, did you spend using an ADS on days when it was a part of your first PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks from your calculation.) ____ minutes

4. Across the span of your first PE regimen, what was the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you used an ADS regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

5. IF you used one particular type of ADS far more than any other during the span of your first PE regimen, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip this question.

__ Monty’s PE Weights or similar system using weights.

__ Homemade ADS (e.g., tying penis to a strap above the knee).

__ Other

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

Additional Variables During Your First PE Regimen

1. Approximately how many minutes per day, on average, did you spend masturbating or engaging in other sexual activity (e.g., intercourse) with an erection during the span of your first PE regimen? For example, if your average week contained three 10-minute masturbatory sessions and two 30-minute sessions of intercourse, then you average 12.9 minutes per day. ____ minutes per day

2. During the span of your first PE regimen, how many times per week, on average, did you have ejaculatory orgasms? If you never ejaculated, enter zero (0). ____ times per week

3. How often did you ejaculate within 2 hours after completing a PE session during your first PE regimen?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

4. How many tobacco cigarettes did you smoke per day, on average, during your first PE regimen? If you never smoked, enter zero (0). ____ cigarettes per day

5. How many alcoholic beverages (equivalent to one beer, one glass of wine, or one shot of liquor) did you drink per week, on average, during your first PE regimen? If you never drank alcohol, enter zero (0). ____ alcoholic beverages per week

6. How many times did you smoke marijuana per week, on average, during your first PE regimen? If you never smoked marijuana, enter zero (0). ____ times

7. How much caffeine did you consume per day, on average, during your first PE regimen? For our purposes here: 1 caffeinated soda = 1 unit of caffeine; 1 cup of tea = 1 unit of caffeine; 1 energy drink = 2 units of caffeine; and 1 cup of coffee = 3 units of caffeine. If you never consumed caffeine, enter zero (0). ____ units of caffeine per day

8. Which of the following supplements and erection enhancers did you take for at least 3 weeks during you first PE regimen? Please check all that apply.

__ Penis enlargement pills (any brand)

__ L-Arginine or NoX2

__ Yohimbe

__ Horny Goat Weed

__ Tongkat Ali

__ Tribulus Terrestris

__ Maca

__ Gingko Biloba

__ Viagra (or the generic equivalent)

__ Levitra (or the generic equivalent)

__ Cialis (or the generic equivalent)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Checkboxes.]

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Please present the following four questions to participants for each supplement (represented by “X” here) that they check off.]

1. For approximately how many weeks total of your first PE regimen did you consume X? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, did you consume X when it was part of your first PE regimen? ____ days per week

3. On the days you consumed X during your first PE regimen, how many milligrams, on average, did you take? ___ mg per day

4. During your first PE regimen, how often was your routine preceded (within 2 hours) by taking X?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. During the periods in the span of your first PE regimen that you took X, would you say that you also, overall, changed other health habits? (Possible “improvements” in health habits might include decreased smoking, alcohol, caffeine, salt, trans-fats, etc.; or increased exercise, sleep, vegetables, etc. Possible “worsening” of health habits might include the opposites.)

__ Overall, my health habits during the periods I took X were worse than my typical health habits.

__ Overall, my health habits during the periods I took X were the same as my typical health habits.

__ Overall, my health habits during the periods I took X were better than my typical health habits.

Outcomes Associated with Your First PE Regimen

1. What was your bone-pressed erect length after completing your first PE regimen? If you do not have a record of the measurement, please skip this question (likewise for the two questions below). If you are currently still using your first PE regimen, then your answer here should, of course, be your current measurement. ____ inches

2. What was your erect girth, measured at midshaft, after your first PE regimen? ____ inches

3. What was your erect girth, measured at your thickest point, after your first PE regimen? ____ inches

4. How much, if at all, did your flaccid size change from your first PE regimen? Please consider only the flaccid size you experienced after at least two days off from PE; we want to be sure that “temporary” flaccid gains (e.g., a post-jelqing pump) don’t interfere with your assessment of changes in flaccid size. If you never took off two days from PE during the span of your first PE regimen, please skip this question.

__ My flaccid penis was almost always or always smaller, after my first PE regimen, than it was before my first PE regimen.

__ My flaccid penis was usually smaller, after my first PE regimen, than it was before my first PE regimen.

__ My flaccid penis was approximately the same size, after my first PE regimen, as it was before my first PE regimen.

__ My flaccid penis was usually larger, after my first PE regimen, than it was before my first PE regimen.

__ My flaccid penis was almost always or always larger, after my first PE regimen, than it was before my first PE regimen.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as -2, the second as -1, the third as 0, the fourth as 1, and the fifth as 2.]

5. How was your erection hardness (i.e., rigidity, firmness to the touch) affected by your first PE regimen? Please note that hardness is not the same as angle. A man can have rock-hard, throbbing erections that point straight down (i.e., high hardness, low angle), or, conversely, soft erections that point upwards (low hardness, high angle).

__ My first PE regimen decreased my erection hardness.

__ My first PE regimen did not affect my erection hardness.

__ My first PE regimen increased my erection hardness.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be radio buttons. The first option should be entered into the spreadsheet as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

6. How was your erection angle affected by your first PE regimen?

__ My first PE regimen decreased my erection angle.

__ My first PE regimen did not affect my erection angle.

__ My first PE regimen increased my erection angle.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be entered into the spreadsheet as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

7. What was your LOT after completing your first PE regimen? As usual, please skip this question if you do not know.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Drop-down menu of choices in 30-minute intervals: 12:00, 11:30, 11:00…6:00. Code these choices as 13, 12, 11…1.)

IF YES TO #5 IN SECTION I:

8. How was the curvature of your erection affected by your first PE regimen?

__ My first PE regimen increased the curvature of my penis, that is, it exaggerated the pre-existing curve or added a new curve.

__ My first PE regimen didn’t affect my penis’s curvature.

__ My first PE regimen straightened my penis to some degree (i.e., decreased the curvature).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

IF NO TO #5 IN SECTION I:

8. How was the curvature of your erection affected by your first PE regimen?

__ My first PE regimen added some noticeable curvature to my penis.

__ My first PE regimen didn’t affect my penis’s curvature; it was still straight afterwards.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”.]

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: In later outcome iterations for later regimens, of course, the Question 8 version will hinge on response in the previous regimen-outcomes section’s answer about curvature…]

9. Did your first PE regimen darken or otherwise change the overall color of your penis to a noticeable degree? (The next question will ask about patches or splotches of discoloration; the present question is about general penile color.)

__ Yes, my first PE regimen noticeably changed the overall color of my penis.

__ No, my penis’s overall color was not affected by my first PE regimen.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “1”, the second as “0”.]

10. Did your first PE regimen lead to discolored patches of penile skin that were not present before the regimen? Any markings that differ significantly in color from the rest of the shaft would count as discolored patches.

__ Yes, my first PE regimen caused discolored patches of penile skin.

__ No, my first PE regimen did not cause discolored patches of penile skin.

[At this point the participant needs the option to add a second PE regimen and its associated outcomes; once he is done adding all the regimens he has gone through in his PE career, he should be presented with Section IV.]

Your Second PE Regimen: The Exercises

Additional Variables During Your Second PE Regimen

Outcomes Associated with Your Second PE Regimen

etc.

Section IV: Additional PE Outcomes

Please note that the following questions concern the span of your entire PE career.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If the participant achieved gains during his PE career, then the program will direct him to questions 1-6. Otherwise skip to #7.]

1. What, approximately, is the longest period of consecutive weeks, after making PE gains, that you have taken off from all PE activities? ____ weeks

2. For approximately how many weeks, prior to the beginning of the aforementioned break period, did you have the size with which you began the break? ____ weeks

3. Which exercise, in your opinion, made the most important overall contribution to the gains you had made in your PE career prior to the beginning of the aforementioned break period?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g., Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be radio buttons.]

4. How much did your penis size change during the aforementioned longest-break period? If it didn’t change at all, please enter a zero (0) for each of the following questions. If you gained size, please enter a positive number (e.g., 0.7) in the appropriate blank. If you lost size, please enter a negative number (e.g., -1.3) in the appropriate blank.

Change in length: ___ inches

Change in girth: ___ inches

5. Which exercise, do you think, has been most important to your length gains through PE (if you have made length gains)? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from your PE experiences, please answer this question.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Include a drop-down list of the exercises that the participant reported having used in their PE regimens.]

6. Which exercise, do you think, has been most important to your girth gains through PE (if you have made girth gains)? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from your PE experiences, please answer this question.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Include a drop-down list of the exercises that the participant reported having used in their PE regimens.]

7. If you have made any PE gains through hanging, with what weight and angle do you think you have made your best hanging gains? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from your hanging experiences, please answer this question. ____ pounds

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Also include a drop-down menu here, next to the weight, of the four hanging angles listed previously in this survey.]

8. If you have made any PE gains through pumping, with what pressure do you think you have made your best pumping gains? We know that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from you pumping experiences, please answer this question. ____ inches Hg

9. After how many weeks of active PE did you achieve your first gains (length or girth)? If, because of infrequent measuring, you cannot be certain of your answer to within two weeks, please skip this question. ____ weeks

10. This is a question about PE “plateaus.” After beginning to achieve PE gains (if you have achieved any), have you ever experienced a period of at least 6 weeks of continuous PEing during which you achieved no gains? If so, after how many consecutive weeks of active PEing did this “plateau” begin? (For example, if I made gains PEing for 10 weeks, but then experienced an 8 week period of no gains from my PEing, then my answer would be “10”.) Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE “plateau” or if you have not achieved any gains thus far. If you have experienced more than one “plateau,” please consider your first one when answering this question. ____ weeks

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Please present questions 11-13 to the participant if he answers question 10.]

11. At the beginning of your first plateau, what was the status of your erection hardness compared to your pre-PE erection hardness?

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection was less hard than it was before PE.

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection was the same hardness as it was before PE.

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection was more hard than it was before PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMER: Radio buttons: The first option should be coded as “-1”; the second option should be coded as “0”; and the last option should be coded as “1”]

12. Which of the following best describes your choices and outcomes after experiencing your first plateau?

__ I continued my PEing, without a break, and eventually achieved gains again.

__ I continued my PEing, without a break, and did not achieve gains again.

__ I took a break from PEing and, after starting up again, achieved new gains (beyond regaining anything I lost during my break).

__ I took a break from PEing and, after starting up again, did not achieve new gains (beyond regaining anything I lost during my break).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code these as you see fit; the data from this question will probably be used only to make a simple pie-chart.]

13. If you took a break from PEing after experiencing your first plateau, how many weeks was that break? ____ weeks

Section V: PE Injuries

1. For how many weeks did you follow the Newbie Routine prescribed at Thunder’s Place(or an even gentler beginner’s program) before trying any more advanced PE regimen? (If you have not progressed to a more advanced regimen, please still specify the number of weeks you have followed the Newbie Routine or a gentler routine.) Please enter zero (0) if you began with a more advanced routine. ____ weeks

2. How many times in your PE career have you experienced an injury severe enough to require you to majorly reduce or take a break from your PE regimen for at least 3 days? Please include each recurrence of an injury as a separate injury for purposes of this count. Please enter a zero (0) if you have never been injured through PE. ____ times

3. Which of the following injuries, if any, have you experienced as an apparent result of PEing? Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE injury.

__ Thrombosed vein(s)

__ Blood from the urethra

__ Erectile dysfunction/loss of penile sensitivity

__ Blister(s) on the penis

__ Spotting on the penis that took more than 3 days to disappear

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be checkboxes. Please present each of the following sections according to whicn injuries the participant checks off in this question.]

A. Thrombosed Veins

1. When your first thrombosed vein(s) occurred, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first thrombosed vein(s) fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first thrombosed vein(s), were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first thrombosed vein(s), had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first thrombosed vein(s), did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first thrombosed vein(s)?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

B. Blood from the Urethra

1. When you first injured your penis in a way that caused blood to emanate from the urethra, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving blood from the urethra fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you first experienced an injury involving blood from the urethra, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you first experienced an injury involving blood from the urethra, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first injury involving blood from the urethra, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury involving blood from the urethra?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

C. Erectile Dysfunction/Loss of Penile Sensitivity

1. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did you fully recover from the erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity?

__ I fully recovered and the problem has not recurred since.

__ I fully recovered, but the problem has recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ I never fully recovered from the erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After experiencing erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury involving erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

D. Blister(s) on the Penis

1. When your first blister(s) on the penis appeared, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving blister(s) on the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first blister(s) on the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first blister(s) on the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first blister(s) on the penis, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first blister(s) on the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

E. Spotting on the Penis

1. When your first spotting on the penis appeared, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving spotting on the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first spotting on the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first spotting on the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first spotting on the penis, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first spotting on the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

Section VI: [The Mystery Section]

[This section, which may or may not be included in the final version of the survey, may or may not exist at present.] :explode:

The above is a survey redesign that addresses MM’s, Remek’s, and others’ concerns about the time course of gains and the changes in PE regimens.

A few things (e.g., plateaus, breaks, injuries) have been left for the end of the survey, detached from the “time course” info, simply because this survey is going to become impossibly long and complex if we make participants repeat every part multiple times.

We could include it, although it doesn’t seem to be a point of very active controversy currently.

The latest revision is under revision again, it looks like, so don’t bother with a detailed critique of the above post, anyone who might be reading. I’m in communication with the programmer trying to figure out a better way to go from general to specific in this survey, to glean useful data from lazy survey-takers, while still using the time-course regimen-segregated format.

Remek, Para-Goomba

Great work! Is there a smilie for bowing in admiration?

I have a few minor maybe’s left - for one the minor issue with wording the question of heat during exercises (comment B6 in my initial response). What I mean is that you have phrased it “9. When stretching was part of your first PE regimen, how often did you apply heat during the stretching session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?” but applying heat during exercises can be done with using a hot wrap or similar during 15-30 second breaks as well, intermittently during the workout. It doesn’t have to be a heat lamp - unless you want to know if a heat lamp and constant heat during exercises are the way to go.

Next question is about penile dysfunction - I’d be interested in knowing how bad the problems got, and I believe those taking the survey will have an easier time if they have something to relate to “a little numbness after exercising / numbness throughout the day but no problems with sexual function / no morning wood, total numbness, no erections at all”

Oh, and a final wording - ADS with knee strap goes below your knee, at least mine does. :)


regards, mgus

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