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Read - The Second PE Survey -- A Thunder's Place group project

Good heavens, another revision!

Thank you for choosing to participate in the Thunder’s Place PE Survey!

Please try to answer the following questions as accurately as you can. If you have no idea about the answer to a given question — if, for example, you never took a starting girth measurement — please skip the question rather than guessing wildly. Use your best judgment about what degree of guessing would be appropriate (e.g., if you remember pumping for 6 to 8 consecutive weeks at one point, “7 weeks” would be a fine answer). If your most accurate response to a question involves a decimal (e.g., 3.75 or 0.9), please feel free to include the decimal in your answer rather than rounding off to a whole digit.

It is extremely important that you answer all questions truthfully. Even if you have lied about any of these matters in your posts at Thunder’s Place, please be honest in this survey. Your individual data will not be connected to your username in the analysis process.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If it's not too much hassle, you might consider including a preliminary question about whether the participant wants to take the survey using the English measurement system (inches, pounds) or the metric system the rest of the world uses (cm, kg). If this is done, answers in cm will have to be converted automatically (into the data spreadsheet) to inches. (I plan to do analyses in English measurements, since most members here use them.)]

Section I: Basic PE Outcomes

If you never took a particular measurement, please skip the relevant question.

1. What was your bone-pressed erect length before beginning any PE? ____ inches

2. What was your erect girth (circumference, not width!), measured at midshaft, before beginning any PE? ____ inches

3. What was your erect girth, measured at your thickest point, before beginning any PE? ____ inches

4. What is your current bone-pressed erect length? ____ inches

5. What is your current erect girth, measured at midshaft? ____ inches

6. What is your current erect girth, measured at your thickest point? ____ inches

7. How has your erection hardness (i.e., rigidity, firmness to the touch)been affected by PEing? Please note that hardness is not the same as angle. A man can have rock-hard, throbbing erections that point straight down (i.e., high hardness, low angle), or, conversely, soft erections that point upwards (low hardness, high angle).

__ Erection hardness has decreased from PEing.

__ Erection hardness has not been affected by PEing.

__ Erection hardness has increased from PEing.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be radio buttons. The first option should be entered into the spreadsheet as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

8. How much, if at all, has your flaccid size changed from PEing? Please consider only the flaccid size you experience after at least two days off from PE; we want to be sure that “temporary” flaccid gains (e.g., a post-jelqing pump) don’t interfere with your assessment of changes in flaccid size. If you have not taken two days off from PE since starting PE, please skip this question.

__ My flaccid penis is now almost always or always smaller than it was before PE.

__ My flaccid penis is now usually smaller than it was before PE.

__ My flaccid penis is still approximately the same size as it was before PE.

__ My flaccid penis is now usually larger than it was before PE.

__ My flaccid penis is now almost always or always larger than it was before PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as -2, the second as -1, the third as 0, the fourth as 1, and the fifth as 2.]

Section II: Your Basic PE Regimen

Throughout this and subsequent sections, the word “average” (or “typical”) is used frequently. We recognize that there is tremendous variation in men's PE regimens over time. Please do the best you can to provide an arithmetic mean to those questions that call for an “average.” For example, if you have spent half of your PE career doing 30 minutes of PE per day, and you have spent the other half doing 40 minutes of PE per day, then you have averaged 35 minutes of PE per day.

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you actively PEed? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. Throughout your whole PE career, approximately how many weeks of break have you taken in total? If you are “retired” from PE, please do not include in your calculation the weeks that have passed since you quit PE (i.e, since your final PE session). ____ weeks

3. How many days per week, on average, have you spent PEing during your phases of active PE (i.e., excluding your break weeks)? ____ days

4. How many minutes, on average, have you spent PEing on those days in which you have PEed? Please exclude rest time between “sets” of exercises from this calculation. Please also exclude time using an all-day stretcher (e.g., PE Weights) or mild traction device (e.g., Penimaster). ____ minutes

5. Which of the following exercises have been substantial components of your PE career? Please check all the apply. (An exercise can be considered a “substantial” part of your PE regimen if you have ever used it at least twice a week for at least two consecutive weeks.)

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g., Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be checkboxes. The following exercise sections should be presented according to what the participant checks off in response to this question.]

A. Jelqing

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you jelqed as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent jelqing when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent jelqing on days when it was part of your PE regimen? ____ minutes

B. Manual Stretching

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you manually stretched as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent manually stretching when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent manually stretching on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between stretches from your calculation.) ____ minutes

C. Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you done manual girth squeezes as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent doing girth squeezes when they have been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent doing girth squeezes on days when they were part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between squeezes from this calculation.) ____ minutes

D. Hanging

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you hung weights as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent hanging when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent hanging on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

E. Pumping

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you pumped as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent pumping when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent pumping on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

F. Clamping

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you clamped as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent clamping when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent clamping on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

G. Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you used an extender device as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent using an extender device when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent using an extender device on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks from your calculation.) ____ minutes

H. All-Day Stretcher (e.g., Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you used an ADS as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent using an ADS when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent using an ADS on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks from your calculation.) ____ minutes

Section III: Details about Your PE Outcomes

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If the participant achieved gains through PE, as reflected in Section I, then the program will direct him to questions 1-6. Otherwise skip to #7.]

1. What, approximately, is the longest period of consecutive weeks, after making PE gains, that you have taken off from all PE activities? ____ weeks

2. For approximately how many weeks, prior to the beginning of the aforementioned break period, did you have the size with which you began the break? ____ weeks

3. How much did your penis size change during the aforementioned break period? If it didn’t change at all, please enter a zero (0) for each of the following questions. If you gained size, please enter a positive number (e.g., 0.7) in the appropriate blank. If you lost size, please enter a negative number (e.g., -1.3) in the appropriate blank.

Change in length: ___ inches

Change in girth: ___ inches

4. Which exercise, do you think, has been most important to your length gains through PE (if you have made length gains)? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from your PE experiences, please answer this question.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Include a drop-down list of the exercises that the participant reports having used in their PE regimen.]

5. Which exercise, do you think, has been most important to your girth gains through PE (if you have made girth gains)? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from your PE experiences, please answer this question.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Include a drop-down list of the exercises that the participant reports having used in their PE regimen.]

6. After how many weeks of active PE did you record your first gains (length or girth)? If, because of infrequent measuring, you cannot be sure of your answer to within two weeks, please skip this question. ____ weeks

7. What was your LOT before beginning any PE? Please skip this question if you did not measure your LOT before beginning PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Drop-down menu of choices in 30-minute intervals: 12:00, 11:30, 11:00…6:00. Code these choices as 13, 12, 11…1.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If the participant answers question 7, then he should be presented with question 8. Otherwise skip to #9.)

8. What is your current LOT? If you are not sure, please check for it now (see how here).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Drop-down menu of choices in 30-minute intervals: 12:00, 11:30, 11:00…6:00. Code these choices as 13, 12, 11…1.)

9. How has your erection angle been affected by PEing? Please remember the aforementioned distinction between erection hardness and erection angle: A man can have rock-hard, throbbing erections that point straight down (i.e., high hardness, low angle), or, conversely, soft erections that point upwards (low hardness, high angle).

__ PEing has lowered my erection angle

__ PE hasn’t affected my erection angle

__ PEing has raised my erection angle

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be entered into the spreadsheet as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

10. Before beginning any PE, did your erection have a noticeable curve (in any direction)?

__ Yes, my pre-PE penis had some curvature.

__ No, my pre-PE penis was straight.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”. The following question, #8, will depend upon the participant's answer to this question.]

IF YES TO #10:

11. How has the curvature of your erection been affected by PEing?

__ PEing has increased the curvature of my penis, that is, it has exaggerated the pre-existing curve or added a new curve.

__ PEing hasn’t affected my penis’s curvature.

__ PEing has straightened my penis to some degree (i.e., decreased the curvature).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

IF NO TO #10:

12. How has the curvature of your erection been affected by PEing?

__ PEing has added some noticeable curvature to my penis.

__ PEing hasn’t affected my penis’s curvature; it is still straight.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”.]

13. Has PEing darkened or otherwise changed the overall color of your penis to a noticeable degree? (The next question will ask about patches or splotches of discoloration; the present question is about general penile color.)

__ Yes, PEing has noticeably changed the overall color of my penis.

__ No, my penis’s overall color has not been affected by PEing.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “1”, the second as “0”.]

14. Has PEing led to discolored patches of penile skin that were not present before PE? Any markings that differ significantly in color from the rest of the shaft would count as discolored patches.

__ Yes, PEing has caused discolored patches of penile skin.

__ No, PEing has not caused discolored patches of penile skin.

15. This is a question about PE “plateaus.” After beginning to achieve PE gains (if you have achieved any), have you ever experienced a period of at least 6 weeks of continuous PEing during which you achieved no gains? If so, after how many consecutive weeks of active PEing did this “plateau” begin? (For example, if I made gains PEing for 10 weeks, but then experienced an 8 week period of no gains from my PEing, then my answer would be “10”.) Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE “plateau” or if you have not achieved any gains thus far. If you have experienced more than one “plateau,” please consider your first one when answering this question. ____ weeks

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Please present questions 16-18 to the participant if he answers question 15. Otherwise skip to question 19.]

16. At the beginning of your first plateau, what was the status of your erection hardness compared to your pre-PE erection hardness?

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection was less hard than it was before PE.

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection was the same hardness as it was before PE.

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection was more hard than it was before PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMER: Radio buttons: The first option should be coded as “-1”; the second option should be coded as “0”; and the last option should be coded as “1”]

17. Which of the following best describes your choices and outcomes after experiencing your first plateau?

__ I continued my PEing, without a break, and eventually achieved gains again.

__ I continued my PEing, without a break, and did not achieve gains again.

__ I took a break from PEing and, after starting up again, achieved new gains (beyond regaining anything I lost during my break).

__ I took a break from PEing and, after starting up again, did not achieve new gains (beyond regaining anything I lost during my break).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code these as you see fit; the data from this question will probably be used only to make a simple pie-chart.]

18. If you took a break from PEing after experiencing your first plateau, how many weeks was that break? ____ weeks

19. How many times in your PE career have you experienced an injury severe enough to require you to majorly reduce or take a break from your PE regimen for at least 3 days? Please include each recurrence of an injury as a separate injury for purposes of this count. Please enter a zero (0) if you have never been injured through PE. ____ times

20. Which of the following injuries, if any, have you experienced as an apparent result of PEing? Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE injury.

__ Thrombosed vein(s)

__ Blood from the urethra

__ Erectile dysfunction/loss of penile sensitivity

__ Blister(s) on the penis

__ Spotting on the penis that took more than 3 days to disappear

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be checkboxes. Please present each of the following sections according to whicn injuries the participant checks off in this question.]

A. Thrombosed Veins

1. When your first thrombosed vein(s) occurred, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first thrombosed vein(s) fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first thrombosed vein(s), were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first thrombosed vein(s), had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first thrombosed vein(s), did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first thrombosed vein(s)?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

B. Blood from the Urethra

1. When you first injured your penis in a way that caused blood to emanate from the urethra, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving blood from the urethra fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you first experienced an injury involving blood from the urethra, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you first experienced an injury involving blood from the urethra, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first injury involving blood from the urethra, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury involving blood from the urethra?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

C. Erectile Dysfunction/Loss of Penile Sensitivity

1. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did you fully recover from the erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity?

__ I fully recovered and the problem has not recurred since.

__ I fully recovered, but the problem has recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ I never fully recovered from the erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After experiencing erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury involving erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

D. Blister(s) on the Penis

1. When your first blister(s) on the penis appeared, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving blister(s) on the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first blister(s) on the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first blister(s) on the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first blister(s) on the penis, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first blister(s) on the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

E. Spotting on the Penis

1. When your first spotting on the penis appeared, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please skip this question and the next one. ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving spotting on the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first spotting on the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first spotting on the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. After acquiring your first spotting on the penis, did you employ massage, heat, or supplements to try to help the healing process? Please check all that apply.

__ Massage

__ Heat

__ Supplements

6. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first spotting on the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

__ All-Day Stretcher (e.g, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

Section IV: Details about Your PE Regimen

1. For how many weeks did you follow the Newbie Routine prescribed at Thunder’s Place(or an even gentler beginner’s program) before trying any more advanced PE regimen? (If you have not progressed to a more advanced regimen, please still specify the number of weeks you have followed the Newbie Routine or a gentler routine.) Please enter zero (0) if you began with a more advanced routine. ____ weeks

2. How many breaks of at least 6-weeks duration have you taken during your PE career? By “break,” we mean a complete cessation of (or at least a drastic reduction of) PE activities. Enter zero (0) if you haven’t taken any breaks of at least 6-weeks duration. If you have taken a large number of breaks and are uncertain of the exact number, please enter your best estimate. ____ breaks

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: The following exercise sections should be presented according to what the participant checks off in response to the fifth question in Section II.]

A. Jelqing

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you jelqed regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. How long does each jelq stroke last for you, typically?

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Pull-down menu of options in intervals of 0.5 seconds: 0.5, 1.0, 1.5…6.0 seconds]

3. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically jelq?

__ I jelq the hell out of my dick; I squeeze about as hard as I can with my jelqing grip, to the point that it’s sometimes uncomfortable.

__ I jelq with fairly high intensity; I grip my penis hard, but never quite to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I jelq with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I jelq with a light grip and low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

4. How often have your jelqing sessions included a lubricant? That is, how often have they been wet jelqing, rather than dry jelqing?

__ Always or almost always wet — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually wet — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes wet -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally wet — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never wet — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How often have your jelqing sessions been performed using jelq sticks (e.g., the Power Jelq)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question above.]

6. Of the jelq sessions that you have performed manually, how often have you used both hands, alternating, to perform your jelq strokes? (As opposed to one hand.)

__ Always or almost always two-handed — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually two-handed — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes two-handed -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally two-handed — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never two-handed — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question above.]

7. Which of the following options best describes the level of erection with which, on average, you have performed your jelqs?

__ My penis does not resist compression at base but does expand slightly toward glans as stroke is performed.

__ My penis resists compression slightly at base and progressively more toward glans.

__ My penis resists compression moderately at base and progressively more toward glans.

__ My penis resists compression strongly at base and throughout jelq stroke.

__ My penis is very hard and not easily compressible at base and throughout jelq stroke.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first choice as 1, the second as 2, the third as 3, the fourth as 4, and the fifth as 5.]

8. When jelqing has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

9. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before jelqing, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

10. When jelqing has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the jelqing session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

11. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during jelqing, if you have ever applied heat during jelqing?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #9.]

B. Manual Stretching

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you manually stretched regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of stretch far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact stretch you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Standard stretch, straight out or at a higher angle.

__ Between-the-cheeks (BTC) stretch.

__ V-stretch.

__ A-stretch.

__ Bundled stretch.

__ Fulcrum stretch.

__ JAI stretch.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

3. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically stretch?

__ I stretch the hell out of my dick; I yank about as hard as I possibly can, sometimes to the point of discomfort.

__ I stretch with fairly high intensity; I pull my penis hard, but never quite to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I stretch with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I stretch gently with low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

4. When manual stretching has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before stretching, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When manual stretching has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during stretching, if you have ever applied heat during stretching?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

C. Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you did manual girth squeezes regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of girth squeeze far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact squeeze you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Horses

__ Uli’s

__ Jelq Squeezes

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

3. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically perform your girth squeezes?

__ I squeeze the hell out of my dick; I squeeze about as hard as I can, sometimes to the point of discomfort.

__ I squeeze with fairly high intensity; I squeeze my penis hard, but never quite to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I squeeze with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I squeeze gently with low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

4. When girth squeezes have been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before girth squeezes, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When girth squeezes have been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during girth squeezes, if you have ever applied heat during girth squeezes?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

D. Hanging

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you hung weights regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular angle of hanging far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the angle you wish to choose isn’t listed here, please select the option that best approximates it.)

__ Between the cheeks (BTC)

__ Straight down (SD)

__ Straight out (SO)

__ Over the shoulder (OTS)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 1, the second as 2, the third as 3, and the fourth as 4. (Even though I'll be using this *mainly* as a nominal variable.)]

3. What is the maximum weight, in pounds, that you have hung regularly during your PE career (i.e., for at least one 10+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ___ pounds

4. With what weight and angle do you think you have made your best gains through hanging (if you have made gains)? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from your hanging experiences, please answer this question. ____ pounds

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Also include a drop-down list here, next to the weight, of the four angles listed in question #2.]

5. When hanging has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

6. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before hanging, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

7. When hanging has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

8. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during hanging, if you have ever applied heat during hanging?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #6.]

E. Pumping

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you pumped regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. What is the maximum pressure that you have used regularly during your pumping career (i.e., for at least one 5+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ____ inches Hg

3. With what pressure do you think you have made your best gains from pumping (if you have made gains)? We know that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from you pumping experiences, please answer this question. ____ inches Hg

4. When pumping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before pumping, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When pumping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during pumping, if you have ever applied heat during pumping?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

F. Clamping

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you clamped regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. When clamping, how often do you incorporate other girth exercises (e.g., squeezes, bends) into your clamping routine?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

3. Which of the following choices best describes the intensity with which you typically clamp?

__ I clamp the hell out of my dick, sometimes to the point of discomfort.

__ I clamp with fairly high intensity, but never quite to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I clamp with medium intensity, far from ever causing any discomfort.

__ I clamp gently with low intensity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth at 1.]

4. When clamping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded (within 30 minutes) by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before clamping, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When clamping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question #3.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during clamping, if you have ever applied heat during clamping?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

G. Traction/Extender Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, etc.)

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you used an extender device regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of extender device far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip this question.

__ Penimaster

__ AutoEXT

__ JES Extender

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

H. All-Day Stretcher (e.g., Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, etc.)

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you used an ADS regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of ADS far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip this question.

__ Monty’s PE Weights or similar system using weights.

__ Homemade ADS (e.g., tying penis to a strap above the knee).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

Section V: Additional PE-Related Variables

1. At what age did you begin PEing? ____ years old

2. Are you circumcised?

__ Yes

__ No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code “yes” as “1”, “no” as “0”.]

3. How many minutes per day, on average, have you spent masturbating or engaging in other sexual activity (e.g., intercourse) with an erection during periods of active PEing? For example, if your average week contains three 10-minute masturbatory sessions and two 30-minute sessions of intercourse, then you average 12.9 minutes per day. ____ minutes per day

4. During periods of active PEing, how many times per week, on average, have you had ejaculatory orgasms? If you never ejaculate, enter zero (0). ____ times per week

5. How often have you ejaculated within 2 hours after completing a PE session?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

6. How many tobacco cigarettes have you smoked per day, on average, during your periods of active PEing? If you never smoke, enter zero (0). ____ cigarettes per day

7. How many alcoholic beverages (equivalent to one beer, one glass of wine, or one shot of liquor) have you drunk per week, on average, during your periods of active PEing? If you never drink alcohol, enter zero (0). ____ alcoholic beverages per week

8. How many times have you smoked marijuana per week, on average, during your periods of active PEing? If you never smoke marijuana, enter zero (0). ____ times

9. How much caffeine have you consumed per day, on average, during your periods of active PEing? For our purposes here: 1 caffeinated soda = 1 unit of caffeine; 1 cup of tea = 1 unit of caffeine; 1 energy drink = 2 units of caffeine; and 1 cup of coffee = 3 units of caffeine. If you never consume caffeine, enter zero (0). ____ units of caffeine per day

10. Which of the following supplements and erection enhancers have you taken for at least one month during active PE? Please check all that apply.

__ Penis enlargement pills (any brand)

__ L-Arginine or NoX2

__ Yohimbe

__ Horny Goat Weed

__ Tongkat Ali

__ Tribulus Terrestris

__ Maca

__ Gingko Biloba

__ Viagra (or the generic equivalent)

__ Levitra (or the generic equivalent)

__ Cialis (or the generic equivalent)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Checkboxes.]

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Please present the following four questions to participants for each supplement (represented by “X” here) that they check off in question 10.]

1. For approximately how many weeks total of your active PEing have you consumed X? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you consumed X when it has been part of your diet? ____ days per week

3. On the days you consumed X, how many milligrams, on average, have you taken? ___ mg per day

4. During active PE, how often was your routine preceded (within 2 hours) by taking X?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. During the periods you have taken X, would you say that you have also, overall, changed other health habits? (Possible “improvements” in health habits might include decreased smoking, alcohol, caffeine, salt, trans-fats, etc.; or increased exercise, sleep, vegetables, etc. Possible “worsening” of health habits might include the opposites.)

__ Overall, my health habits during the periods I have taken X have been worse than my typical health habits.

__ Overall, my health habits during the periods I have taken X have been the same as my typical health habits.

__ Overall, my health habits during the periods I have taken X have been better than my typical health habits.

Section VI: [The Mystery Section]

[This section, which may or may not be included in the final version of the survey, may or may not exist at present.] :explode:

I will continue thinking about how to assess more specific aspects of people’s routines (e.g., temporal order & overlap of exercices, #sets vs. lengthsets) with an eye toward useful analysis. This survey has gotten long enough that even “minor” changes take a while to incorporate, so I haven’t had time to do everything I’d like. Forgive any typos in this latest revision; I haven’t the patience to proofread it anymore :)

Great job, PG! I know that there’s a lot more to this than just writing the questions.


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The programmer and I are working on a possible way to address some of the concerns about regimen overhauls over time (i.e., changes in routine) & the gains associated with each regimen. Each subject may repeatedly report “regimens” and “outcomes” (e.g., gains associated with the regimen) for each major routine he’s used; a problem here is the order effect - each subject’s data will be split to constitute X subjects in the analysis process, where X represents the number of routines he’s employed over time; consequently the earlier routines in his career will be privileged in their likelihood to achieve gains, possibly skewing the apparent efficacy of various exercises to favor newbie-routine ones (e.g., jelq, stretch). Complicated poop.

We decided to throw in the proverbial kitchen sink. You will be able to enter your changing routines over time (and the outcomes associated with each) in the final version of the survey. Initial analyses will not take advantage of nearly all the subtleties available in the data, but it never hurts to have them available for later research. Problem is that almost any way of parsing (into analyzable form) the clog of data that we’re going to have will be pretty arbitrary — but hey, then we can test arbitrary hypotheses that get thrown out there by random PE kooks and sorcerers over the years :D

Oh, and whoever suggested lots of the subjective questions (how do you feel about your pee-pee, etc.) — we will be including some of that stuff, it’s just not visible here.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba

We decided to throw in the proverbial kitchen sink. You will be able to enter your changing routines over time (and the outcomes associated with each) in the final version of the survey. Initial analyses will not take advantage of nearly all the subtleties available in the data, but it never hurts to have them available for later research. Problem is that almost any way of parsing (into analyzable form) the clog of data that we’re going to have will be pretty arbitrary — but hey, then we can test arbitrary hypotheses that get thrown out there by random PE kooks and sorcerers over the years :D

I applaud this decision.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

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Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

I am in the midst of a massive organizational overhaul to accomodate the new parameters of the survey. Changing verb tenses and the like is getting annoying :)

Originally Posted by Remek

Originally Posted by MM
I suggest breaking up PE efforts into at least two categories: newbie exercises and senior exercises, where newbie exercises are defined as those forming a person's first PE routine. Most experienced PE'ers will tell you that newbie gains are a whole different kind of thing than gains occurring later. I think the survey should reflect that, or at least should collect the right kind of data so that that statement can be tested.

MM, I hope you will return and follow up on this idea, because you completely lost me :confused: (remek prays for his similie to work for the first time)

This point may already have been considered by PG’s changes. The basic point is that most guys see much easier gains when they are newbies than they do later on. Most guys also start with the newbie routine. Thus, if one did not take into account the order of routines performed over a PE career, one would inevitably conclude that the newbie routine was the most effective routine for achieving gains, regardless of when it is done. This may be true, but is not necessarily true. It could be that virtually any form of PE would produce good gains if it were the first form of PE performed.

This is why it is so important that the survey probe the effects of the order in which routines are performed.


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Originally Posted by Remek

Before I go any further, I want to take another moment to show my appreciation for the feedback MM. When it comes to PE, I go to a very select few people for opinions and ideas. You are always one of my “number 1- go to guys.”

You’ll regret saying that some day :cutlass: :fie: .


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Originally Posted by remek

I think we should start a completely different section for ADS. Having them combined could attribute a lot of gains from an ADS to another form of hanging (i.e. a BIB hanger).

On second throught, I agree with you. ADS should have its own section. Otherwise, we’re letting our preceived notions about how ADS’s work color the survey questions.


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS

MM,

Did you see PG’s suggestion to post your Levels of Erection in a new thread?

Yup. Will do.


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