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Read - The Second PE Survey -- A Thunder's Place group project

For organizational purposes:

Today we are adding;

Originally Posted by PG
[QUOTE=Para-Goomba]
- the one hand/two hand thing for jelq
- also the percentage erection for jelq

Were you referring to circumcision with your other comment? I will definitely add circumcision to the next revision, also.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Cool. Yeah. I’ll add a question about total time in break to the next revision (rather than just asking about number of extended breaks). I’ll also have to add something to tell retired PEers to take the whole survey with an eye toward their PE careers, from start to finish, but not including their post-retirement weeks/years in calculations.

Originally Posted by PG, regarding the “max weight and pressure” questions posted by remek
Good idea. I think a subjective question like this would be most useful. Asking about the “average” weight the PEer used doesn’t seem as promising to me. The “max weight” question is probably our best objective indicator. I’ll add the subjective assessment to the next draft. I should probably also ask which exercises (from the whole list) the participant, himself, attributes his length and girth gains to most.

Also, if you can think of a better way to find to question about quality of erections and plateaus, let me know.


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Spanish Translation:

I PMed the mod who translated my clamping 101 article, asking him if he would be willing to translate the survey.


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Update on the Spanish Translation:

It looks very promising. The programmer agreed, that it is a good idea.

Additionally, mafero, a Spanish translating machine here at Thunder’s agreed to translate portions of the survey, and rally other Spanish translators — helping us gather more votes, more data, more research.


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Notes for myself:

Originally Posted by Pharma-Goomba
I’ll add a question about total time in break to the next revision (rather than just asking about number of extended breaks).

I’ll also have to add something to tell retired PEers to take the whole survey with an eye toward their PE careers, from start to finish, but not including their post-retirement weeks/years in calculations of breaks and such.

- the one hand/two hand thing for jelq

- also the percentage erection for jelq

I will definitely add circumcision to the next revision, also.

- add degree of heat to jelqing, pumping, clamping

Section IV, q.10: One thing I changed on this question was the word “jelqing.” Jelqing could confuse the user — Unlikely, but possible. Instead, I used the words “exercise the penis,” and “penis exercises.”

add: 11. When you experienced a plateau, what was the status of your erection quality compared to your pre-PE erection quality?

__ When I hit a “plateau,” my erection strength was the same as it was before PE.

__ My erection quality was stronger during the time I experienced a “plateau,” than it was before PE.

__ My erection strength was weaker during the time I experienced a “plateau,” than it was before PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMER: Radio buttons: The first option should be coded as “0”; the second option should be coded as “1”; and the last option should be coded as “-1”]

- girth squeeze question change:

__ I squeeze the hell out of my dick; I squeeze about as hard as I can, to the point that it’s sometimes uncomfortable.

__ I squeeze with fairly high intensity, but never to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I squeeze with moderate intensity (i.e., with less intensity than the two categories above).

- include “penis enlargement pills” in the supplements section

Something along the lines of “What average weight, in pounds, do you believe brought you the best results when hanging?”

- separate” same size as” and “smaller than” for the flaccid change questions

Thank you for choosing to participate in the Thunder’s Place PE Survey!

Please try to answer the following questions as accurately as you can. If you have no idea about the answer to a given question — if, for example, you never took a starting girth measurement — please skip the question rather than guessing wildly. Use your best judgment about what degree of guessing would be appropriate (e.g., if you remember pumping for 6 to 8 consecutive weeks at one point, “7 weeks” would be a fine answer).

It is extremely important that you answer all questions truthfully. Even if you have lied about any of these matters in your posts at Thunder’s Place, please be honest in this survey. Your individual data will not be connected to your username in the analysis process.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If it's not too much hassle, you might consider including a preliminary question about whether the participant wants to take the survey using the English measurement system (inches, pounds) or the metric system the rest of the world uses (cm, kg). If this is done, answers in cm will have to be converted automatically (into the data spreadsheet) to inches. (I plan to do analyses in English measurements, since most members here use them.)]

Section I: Basic PE Outcomes

If you never took a particular measurement, please skip the relevant question.

1. What was your bone-pressed erect length before beginning any PE? ____ inches

2. What was your erect girth (circumference, not width!), measured at midshaft, before beginning any PE? ____ inches

3. What was your erect girth, measured at your thickest point, before beginning any PE? ____ inches

4. What is your current bone-pressed erect length? ____ inches

5. What is your current erect girth, measured at midshaft? ____ inches

6. What is your current erect girth, measured at your thickest point? ____ inches

7. How has your erection quality been affected by PEing? Please note that quality is not the same as angle. A man can have rock-hard, throbbing erections that point straight down (i.e., high quality, low angle), or, conversely, soft erections that point upwards (low quality, high angle).

__ Erection quality has gotten worse from PEing.

__ Erection quality has not been affected by PEing.

__ Erection quality has improved from PEing.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be radio buttons. The first option should be entered into the spreadsheet as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

8. How much, if at all, has your flaccid size changed from PEing? Please do not consider “temporary” flaccid gains (e.g., a post-jelqing pump) when answering this question.

__ My flaccid size is smaller than it was before PEing.

__ My flaccid size is the same as it was before PEing.

__ My flaccid size is bit larger from PEing: occasionally, my penis hangs longer and/or heavier than it did before PE.

__ My flaccid size is significant larger from PEing: most of the time, my penis hangs longer and/or heavier than it did before PE.

__ My flaccid size is much larger from PEing: it almost always or always hangs substantially longer and/or heavier than it did before PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as -1, the second as 0, the third as 1, the fourth as 2, and the fifth as 3.]

Section II: Your Basic PE Regimen

Throughout this and subsequent sections, the word “average” (or “typical”) is used frequently. We recognize that there is tremendous variation in men's PE regimens over time. Please do the best you can to provide an arithmetic mean to those questions that call for an “average.” For example, if you have spent half of your PE career doing 30 minutes of PE per day, and you have spent the other half doing 40 minutes of PE per day, then you have averaged 35 minutes of PE per day.

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you actively PEed? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. Throughout your whole PE career, approximately how many weeks of break have you taken in total? If you are “retired” from PE, please do not include the weeks since you have quit in your calculation. (Retired PEers should also not consider their post-retirement time when answering later questions in this survey.) ____ weeks

3. How many days per week, on average, have you spent PEing during your phases of active PE (i.e., excluding your break weeks)? ____ days

4. How many minutes, on average, have you spent PEing on those days in which you have PEed? Please exclude rest time between “sets” of exercises from this calculation. Please also exclude time using an all-day stretcher (e.g., PE Weights) or mild traction device (e.g., Penimaster). ____ minutes

5. Which of the following exercises have been substantial components of your PE career? Please check all the apply. (An exercise can be considered a “substantial” part of your PE regimen if you have ever used it at least twice a week for at least two consecutive weeks.)

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be checkboxes. The following exercise sections should be presented according to what the participant checks off in response to this question.]

A. Jelqing

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you jelqed as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent jelqing when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent jelqing on days when it was part of your PE regimen? ____ minutes

B. Manual Stretching

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you manually stretched as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent manually stretching when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent manually stretching on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between stretches from your calculation.) ____ minutes

C. Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you done manual girth squeezes as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent doing girth squeezes when they have been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent doing girth squeezes on days when they were part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between squeezes from this calculation.) ____ minutes

D. Hanging

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you hung weights as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent hanging when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent hanging on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

E. Pumping

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you pumped as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent pumping when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent pumping on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

F. Clamping

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you clamped as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent clamping when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent clamping on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks between sets from your calculation.) ____ minutes

G. Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you used an extender or ADS as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent using an extender or ADS when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days

3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent using an extender or ADS on days when it was part of your PE regimen? (Try to exclude breaks from your calculation.) ____ minutes

Section III: Details about Your PE Outcomes

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If the participant achieved gains through PE, as reflected in Section I, then the program will direct him to questions 1-3. Otherwise skip to #4.]

1. What, approximately, is the longest period, after making PE gains, that you have taken off from all PE activities? ____ weeks

2. For approximately how many weeks, prior to the beginning of the aforementioned break period, did you have the size with which you began the break? ____ weeks

3. How much did your penis size change during the aforementioned break period? If it didn’t change at all, please enter a zero (0) for each of the following questions. If you gained size, please enter a positive number (e.g., 0.7) in the appropriate blank. If you lost size, please enter a negative number (e.g., -1.3) in the appropriate blank.

Change in length: ___ inches

Change in girth: ___ inches

4. What was your LOT before beginning any PE? Please skip this question if you did not measure your LOT before beginning PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Drop-down menu of choices in 30-minute intervals: 12:00, 11:30, 11:00…6:00. Code these choices as 13, 12, 11…1.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: If the participant answers question 4, then he should be presented with question 5. Otherwise skip to #6.)

5. What is your current LOT? If you are not sure, please check for it now.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Drop-down menu of choices in 30-minute intervals: 12:00, 11:30, 11:00…6:00. Code these choices as 13, 12, 11…1.)

6. How has your erection angle been affected by PEing? Please remember the aforementioned distinction between erection quality and erection angle.

__ PEing has lowered my erection angle

__ PE hasn’t affected my erection angle

__ PEing has raised my erection angle

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be entered into the spreadsheet as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

7. Before beginning any PE, did your erection have a noticeable curve (in any direction)?

__ Yes, my pre-PE penis had some curvature.

__ No, my pre-PE penis was straight.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”. The following question, #8, will depend upon the participant's answer to this question.]

IF YES TO #7:

8. How has the shape of your erection been affected by PEing?

__ PEing has increased the curvature of my penis, that is, it has exaggerated the pre-existing curve or added a new curve.

__ PEing hasn’t affected my penis’s shape.

__ PEing has straightened my penis to some degree (i.e., decreased the curvature).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

IF NO TO #7:

8. How has the shape of your erection been affected by PEing?

__ PEing has added some noticeable curvature to my penis.

__ PEing hasn’t affected my penis’s shape; it is still straight.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”.]

9. Has PEing darkened or otherwise changed the color of your penis to a noticeable degree?

__ Yes, PEing has noticeably changed the color of my penis.

__ No, my penis’s color has not been affected by PEing.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “1”, the second as “0”.]

10. This is a question about PE “plateaus.” After beginning to achieve PE gains (if you have achieved any), have you ever experienced a period of at least 6 weeks of continuous PEing during which you achieved no gains? If so, after how many consecutive weeks of active PEing did this “plateau” begin? (For example, if I made gains PEing for 10 weeks, but then experienced an 8 week period of no gains from my PEing, then my answer would be “10”.) Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE “plateau.” If you have experienced more than one “plateau,” please consider your first one when answering this question. ____ weeks

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Please present questions 11 and 12 to the participant if he answers question 10. Otherwise skip to question 13.]

11. At the beginning of your first plateau, what was the status of your erection quality compared to your pre-PE erection quality?

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection strength was weaker than it was before PE.

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection strength was the same as it was before PE.

__ When I hit a plateau, my erection strength was stronger than it was before PE.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMER: Radio buttons: The first option should be coded as “-1”; the second option should be coded as “0”; and the last option should be coded as “1”]

12. After experiencing your first plateau, did you find that you required a break from your normal PE schedule before you could again achieve gains?

__ No, I continued my PEing, without a break, and eventually achieved gains again.

__ Yes, I only made gains after taking a break from my normal PE schedule.

__ I have not made gains since experiencing my plateau.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code these as you see fit; the data from this question will probably be used only to make a simple pie-chart.]

13. How many times in your PE career have you experienced an injury severe enough to require you to majorly reduce or take a break from your PE regimen for at least 3 days? Please include recurrences of past injuries in your count. Please enter a zero (0) if you have never been injured through PE. ____ times

14. Which of the following injuries, if any, have you experienced as an apparent result of PEing? Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE injury.

__ Thrombosed vein(s)

__ Blood from the penis

__ Erectile dysfunction/loss of penile sensitivity

__ Blister(s) on the penis

__ Spotting on the penis that took more than 3 days to disappear

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: These should be checkboxes. Please present each of the following sections according to whicn injuries the participant checks off in this question.]

A. Thrombosed Veins

1. When your first thrombosed vein(s) occurred, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please specify how many weeks ago the thrombosis occurred. If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). ____ weeks

2. Did your first thrombosed vein(s) fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first thrombosed vein(s), were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first thrombosed vein(s), had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first thrombosed vein(s)?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

B. Blood from the Penis

1. When you first injured your penis in a way that caused blood to emanate from the penis, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please specify how many weeks ago the injury occurred. If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving blood from the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you first experienced an injury involving blood from the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you first experienced an injury involving blood from the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury involving blood from the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

C. Erectile Dysfunction/Loss of Penile Sensitivity

1. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please specify how many weeks ago the injury occurred. If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). ____ weeks

2. Did you fully recover from the erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity?

__ I fully recovered and the problem has not recurred since.

__ I fully recovered, but the problem has recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ I never fully recovered from the erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you first experienced erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity as an apparent result of PE, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury involving erectile dysfunction or loss of penile sensitivity?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

D. Blister(s) on the Penis

1. When your first blister(s) on the penis appeared, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please specify how many weeks ago the blister(s) appeared. If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving blister(s) on the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first blister(s) on the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first blister(s) on the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first blister(s) on the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

E. Spotting on the Penis

1. When your first spotting on the penis appeared, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please specify how many weeks ago the spotting appeared. If you did not take at least 1 week off from PE following the injury, please answer zero (0). ____ weeks

2. Did your first injury involving spotting on the penis fully heal?

__ The injury fully healed and has not recurred since.

__ The injury initially fully healed, but it has since recurred at least once after resuming PE.

__ The injury never fully healed.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first answer should be coded as “1,” the second as “0,” and the third as “-1”.]

3. When you acquired your first spotting on the penis, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

4. When you acquired your first spotting on the penis, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?

Yes

No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. “Yes” should be coded as “1”, “No” as “0”.]

5. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first spotting on the penis?

__ Jelqing

__ Manual Stretching

__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli’s, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

__ Hanging

__ Pumping

__ Clamping

__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty’s PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons.]

Section IV: Details about Your PE Regimen

1. For how many weeks did you follow the Newbie Routine prescribed at Thunder’s Place (or an even gentler beginner’s program) before trying any more advanced PE regimen? Please enter zero (0) if you began with a more advanced routine. ____ weeks

2. How many breaks of at least 3-weeks duration have you taken during your PE career? By “break,” we mean a complete cessation of (or at least a drastic reduction of) PE activities. Enter zero (0) if you haven’t taken any breaks. If you have taken a large number of breaks and are uncertain of the exact number, please enter your best estimate. ____ breaks

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: The following exercise sections should be presented according to what the participant checks off in response to the fifth question in Section II.]

A. Jelqing

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you jelqed regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. How long does each jelq stroke last for you, typically?

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Pull-down menu of options in intervals of 0.5 seconds: 0.5, 1.0, 1.5…6.0 seconds]

3. With how much intensity do you typically jelq?

__ I jelq the hell out of my dick; I squeeze about as hard as I can with my jelqing grip, to the point that it’s sometimes uncomfortable.

__ I jelq with fairly high intensity, but never to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ My jelqing grip involves just enough intensity to produce a nice pump (i.e., not as intense as the two categories above).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 3, the second as 2, and the third as 1.]

4. How often have your jelqing sessions included a lubricant? That is, how often have they been wet jelqing, rather than dry jelqing?

__ Always or almost always wet — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually wet — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes wet -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally wet — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never wet — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How often have your jelqing sessions been performed using jelq sticks (e.g., the Power Jelq)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question above.]

6. Of the jelq sessions that you have performed manually, how often have you used both hands, alternating, to perform your jelq strokes? (As opposed to one hand.)

__ Always or almost always two-handed — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually two-handed — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes two-handed -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally two-handed — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never two-handed — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question above.]

7. With what erection level, on average, have you performed your jelqs?

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Include a drop-down list of choices in ten-percent increments from 0% to 100%.]

8. When jelqing has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

9. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before jelqing, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

10. When jelqing has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the jelqing session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

11. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during jelqing, if you have ever applied heat during jelqing?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #9.]

B. Manual Stretching

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you manually stretched regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of stretch far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact stretch you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Standard stretch, straight out or at a higher angle.

__ Between-the-cheeks (BTC) stretch.

__ V-stretch.

__ JAI stretch.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

3. With how much intensity do you typically stretch?

__ I stretch the hell out of my penis; I yank as hard as I possibly can (given the amount of time I stretch).

__ I stretch very hard, but not quite as hard as I possible could.

__ I stretch moderately (i.e., with less intensity than the two categories above).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 3, the second as 2, and the third as 1.]

4. When manual stretching has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before stretching, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When manual stretching has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during stretching, if you have ever applied heat during stretching?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

C. Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you did manual girth squeezes regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of girth squeeze far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the exact squeeze you wish to select is not listed, please choose the closest approximation.)

__ Horses

__ Uli’s

__ Jelq Squeezes

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

3. With how much intensity do you typically perform your girth squeezes?

__ I squeeze the hell out of my dick; I squeeze about as hard as I can, to the point that it’s sometimes uncomfortable.

__ I squeeze with fairly high intensity, but never to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I squeeze with moderate intensity (i.e., with less intensity than the two categories above).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 3, the second as 2, and the third as 1.]

4. When girth squeezes have been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before girth squeezes, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When girth squeezes have been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during girth squeezes, if you have ever applied heat during girth squeezes?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

D. Hanging

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you hung weights regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular angle of hanging far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question. (If the angle you wish to choose isn’t listed here, please select the option that best approximates it.)

__ Between the cheeks (BTC)

__ Straight down (SD)

__ Straight out (SO)

__ Over the shoulder (OTS)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 1, the second as 2, the third as 3, and the fourth as 4. (Even though I'll be using this *mainly* as a nominal variable.)]

3. What is the maximum weight, in pounds, that you have hung regularly during your PE career (i.e., for at least one 10+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ___ pounds

4. With what weight and angle do you think you have made your best gains through hanging (if you have made gains)? We realize that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from you hanging experiences, please answer this question. ____ pounds

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Also include a drop-down list here, next to the weight, of the four angles listed in question #2.]

5. When hanging has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

6. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before hanging, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

7. When hanging has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

8. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during hanging, if you have ever applied heat during hanging?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #6.]

E. Pumping

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you pumped regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. What is the maximum pressure that you have used regularly during your pumping career (i.e., for at least one 5+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ____ inches Hg

3. With what pressure do you think you have made your best gains from pumping (if you have made gains)? We know that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from you pumping experiences, please answer this question. ____ inches Hg

4. When pumping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

5. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before pumping, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

6. When pumping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

7. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during pumping, if you have ever applied heat during pumping?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #5.]

F. Clamping

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you clamped regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. With how much intensity do you typically clamp?

__ I clamp the hell out of my dick, to the point that it’s sometimes uncomfortable.

__ I clamp with fairly high intensity, but never to the point that there’s any discomfort.

__ I clamp with moderate intensity (i.e., with less intensity than the two categories above).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 3, the second as 2, and the third as 1.]

3. When clamping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

4. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before clamping, if you have ever employed warm-ups?

__ Burning hot — so hot that the warm-up involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable to take a shower in.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 4, the second as 3, the third as 2, and the fourth as 1.]

5. When clamping has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as question #3.]

6. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during clamping, if you have ever applied heat during clamping?

__ Burning hot — so hot that it involves at least a bit of pain.

__ Very hot — on the verge of discomfort.

__ Fairly hot — as hot as would be comfortable in a sauna.

__ Less hot than any of the descriptions above.

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Same procedure as #4.]

G. Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you used an extender or ADS regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)? ____ weeks

2. IF you have used one particular type of extender/ADS system far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip this question.

__ Penimaster, AutoEXT, JES Extender, or similar traction device.

__ Monty’s PE Weights or similar system using weights.

__ Homemade ADS (e.g., using a strap above the knee).

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Assign whatever numbers you want to the choices. Obviously this is a nominal variable.]

Section V: Additional PE-Related Variables

1. At what age did you begin PEing? ____ years old

2. Are you circumcised?

__ Yes

__ No

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code “yes” as “1”, “no” as “0”.]

3. How many minutes per day, on average, have you spent masturbating or engaging in other sexual activity (e.g., intercourse) with an erection during periods of active PEing? For example, if your average week contains three 10-minute masturbatory sessions and two 30-minute sessions of intercourse, then you average 12.9 minutes per day. ____ minutes per day

4. During periods of active PEing, how many times per week, on average, have you had ejaculatory orgasms? If you never ejaculate, enter zero (0). ____ times per week

5. How often, after a PE session, have you ejaculated within the following 2 hours?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

6. How many tobacco cigarettes have you smoked per day, on average, during your periods of active PEing? If you never smoke, enter zero (0). ____ cigarettes per day

7. How many alcoholic beverages (equivalent to one beer, one glass of wine, or one shot of liquor) have you drunk per week, on average, during your periods of active PEing? If you never drink alcohol, enter zero (0). ____ alcoholic beverages per week

8. How many times have you smoked marijuana per week, on average, during your periods of active PEing? If you never smoke marijuana, enter zero (0). ____ times

9. How much caffeine have you consumed per day, on average, during your periods of active PEing? For our purposes here: 1 caffeinated soda = 1 unit of caffeine; 1 cup of tea = 1 unit of caffeine; 1 energy drink = 2 units of caffeine; and 1 cup of coffee = 3 units of caffeine. If you never consume caffeine, enter zero (0). ____ units of caffeine per day

10. Which of the following supplements and erection enhancers have you taken for at least one month during active PE? Please check all that apply.

__ Penis enlargement pills (any brand)

__ L-Arginine or NoX2

__ Yohimbe

__ Horny Goat Weed

__ Tongkat Ali

__ Tribulus Terrestris

__ Maca

__ Viagra (or the generic equivalent)

__ Levitra (or the generic equivalent)

__ Cialis (or the generic equivalent)

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Checkboxes.]

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Please present the following four questions to participants for each supplement (represented by “X” here) that they check off in question 9.]

1. For approximately how many weeks total of your active PEing have you consumed X? ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you consumed X when it has been part of your diet? ____ days per week

3. On the days you consumed X, how many milligrams, on average, have you taken? ___ mg per day

4. During active PE, how often was your routine preceded (within 2 hours) by taking X?

__ Always or almost always — 90% of the time or more

__ Usually — approximately 75% of the time

__ Sometimes -– approximately 50% of the time

__ Occasionally — approximately 25% of the time

__ Rarely or never — 10% percent of the time or less

[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. Code the first answer as 95, the second as 75, the third as 50, the fourth as 25, and the fifth as 5.]

Okay that’s the new version posted above. A few things:

1. I don’t know much about most PE techniques besides hanging. It would be nice to have feedback from clampers, squeezers, pumpers, stretchers, and so forth, to know if I have left out important variations in these exercises or have grouped exercises together inappropriately.

2. If we were ultra-anal about this, we would counterbalance the order of options within each multiple-choice question across participants, to check for order effects. I don’t think this is necessary, though, especially since we’re not asking for opinions here, but rather simple self-reports of what, factually, the participants have been doing with their PE.

3. Sorry, Remek, if my meaning of “evening” is different from yours :)

As always, great job PG. No problem about the time difference, I was just hoping for something a little earlier. Here is a few notes I took while making the interdependency map:

1) Regarding punctuated PE - the break question. Maybe we should have a code, or a question asking if the participant is retired from PE. If so, did he lose/gain anything after he retired?

2) Regarding Section II - Basic PE Regimen. Question 3 of the certain exercises asks: “3. How many minutes, on average, have you spent jelqing on days when it was part of your PE regimen? ____ minutes

Is this question asking the average number of minutes during workout days? (i.e. if I worked out 3 days a week, 20 minutes a day, is it asking for 20 minutes as the answer or 8.5) If it is the later, which I am assuming, I think we should throw something in the question pointing that we are asking for the average number of minutes spent doing X on the days the user worked out his penis.

3) An idea for another injury question: Something along the lines of asking the user if he frequently hot-wrapped, and massaged his penis after the injury. This will help us build data regarding the healing process (i.e. does massaging and frequent hot-wraps allow quicker recovery and full recovery)


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Wow. Impressive. One thought:

Originally Posted by remek
1) Regarding punctuated PE - the break question. Maybe we should have a code, or a question asking if the participant is retired from PE. If so, did he lose/gain anything after he retired?


We absolutely need to be able to distinguish retired PEers from active, but on break PEers. If post-retirement size changes are of interest, that should be explored in a seperate question.

Really looks great guys.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

1. Yes, good catch: when I responded to your PM, I meant to say something about that — how my earlier comment about ignoring your post-retirement history wouldn’t hold true there. I’ll do something about that when it’s on Wiki, or you can (just note what you do). We still just want to ask about their longest time off from PE, but that could include post-retirement, if that’s their longest break. We don’t need a separate code or checkbox for retired PEers here, in my opinion.

2. I thought that question was pretty clear. I changed it from the earlier phrasing of “how many minutes per day, on average, have you Xed during your active PEing” because that wasn’t what we wanted to know — we don’t want the participant to include days he didn’t X at all in his calculations. We want the product of the weeks, days, minutes questions to give us an estimate of total time doing X. This will only work if they only give the minutes for the days that they actually did X.

3. All right, we can add that. Good idea!

Here is the interdependency map. This is a rough draft of the analyses that will take place after the results are in. I have never created an interdependency map before, so if I missed anything, let me know.

Some parts might be vague, but remember this is a basic outline of what we will be analyzing once the results are in. This is not a pre in depth analysis. Many tests, analyses, and data will come from the survey, and it will take time to analyze the results.

Additionally, I was not 100 percent sure of how some of the questions will be used in the analyzing process. Feel free to edit or add to the interdependency map.

Application = How the question will be used in the analyzing process
Connection with = the other questions that the particular question will have a relationship with (i.e. the gains question and its correlation with the masturbation question).

Planning for the data analysis

Section I: Basic PE Outcomes

Questions 1 – 6, the measurements:
Application
Gather data on average pre and post size
Gather data on average gains
Correlation with other variables (i.e. the people who masturbated weekly gained X more/less than the people who did not)

Connected with:
All questions that compare measurements (i.e. any question that requires comparing the gains of X vs. the gains of Y)

7. How has your erection quality been affected by PEing?
Application
Gather data regarding PE’s affect on erection quality

8. How much, if at all, has your flaccid size changed from PEing?
Application
Gather data on PE’s affect on flaccid size

Section II: Your Basic PE Regimen
Questions 1 ,3, and 4 will be used to calculate the number of total hours spent PEing. This will be done by finding the average number of hours spent a week PEing (questions 3 and 4), and multiplying it by the number of weeks (question 1)
Application of total number of hours:
Gather data on total number of hours spent PEing
Chart the correlation: total number of hours and gains
Other more advanced correlations (i.e. comparing the total number of hours spent PEing, with masturbation, and gains)

1. For approximately how many weeks total have you actively PEed?
Application
Gather data on average number of weeks spent PEing
Chart the correlation: number of weeks and gains
Other more advanced correlations (i.e. comparing the number of weeks spent jelqing and the number of total weeks)

Connection with
The measurement questions – to correlate the number of weeks and gains
Other advanced questions (i.e. the number of weeks spent jelqing)

2. Throughout your whole PE career, approximately how many weeks of break have you taken in total?
Application
Gather data on punctuated PE. (i.e. Out of a full year, the average participant spends x weeks PEing, and Y weeks on break)
Gather data on breaks and gains
Other more advanced correlations (i.e. breaks and its correlation with certain exercises, and gains)

Connection with
The number of total active PE weeks
The measurement questions
Other advanced questions (i.e. certain exercises, and gains)

3. How many days per week, on average, have you spent PEing during your phases of active PE ?
Application
Gather data on average number of days spent PEing
Chart the correlation: number of days a week spent PEing and gains
Other more advanced correlations (i.e. comparing the number of weeks spent jelqing and the average number of days)

Connection with
The measurement questions – to correlate the number of days a week and gains
Other advanced questions (i.e. the number of weeks spent jelqing)

4. How many minutes, on average, have you spent PEing on those days in which you have PEed?
application
Gather data on average number of minutes spent PEing
Chart the correlation: number of minutes spent PEing a day and gains
Other more advanced correlations (i.e. comparing the number of weeks spent jelqing and the average number minutes spent a day PEing)

Connection with
The measurement questions – to correlate the number of minutes a day and gains
Other advanced questions (i.e. the number of weeks spent jelqing)

4. Which of the following exercises have been substantial components of your PE career? Please check all the apply. (An exercise can be considered a “substantial” part of your PE regimen if you have ever used it at least twice a week for at least two consecutive weeks.)
__ Jelqing
__ Manual Stretching
__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)
__ Hanging
__ Pumping
__ Clamping
__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)
[CHECKBOXES]

Application:
Gather data on the most used exercises
Gather data on the best combination of exercises
Gather data on the best exercises for gains
Gather data on the best exercises for erection quality
Allow the program to question the participant regarding only the exercises he has used

Connection with
The measurement questions (section I, questions 1 – 6)
The erection quality question (section I, question 7)

A. Jelqing – G. Traction/Extender/ADS devices
1. For approximately how many weeks total have you used X as part of your PE regimen? Please exclude breaks from this calculation. ____ weeks

2. How many days per week, on average, have you spent jelqing when it has been part of your PE regimen? ____ days
3. During your active PE days, how many minutes, on average, have you spent jelqing on days when it was part of your PE regimen? ____ minutes

Questions 1 - 3 will be used to calculate the number of total hours spent doing exercise X. This will be done by finding the average number of hours spent a week doing exercise X (questions 2 and 3), and multiplying it by the number of weeks (question 1)

Application
Gather more in-depth data on the most used exercises
Gather more in-depth data on the best combination of exercises
Gather more in-depth data on the best exercises for gains
Gather more in-depth data on the best exercises for erection quality

Connection with
The gains questions
The erection quality questions
The other exercise questions

Section III: Details about your PE outcomes

1. Approximately, what is the longest period, after making PE gains, that you have taken off from all PE activities?
Application
To see whether there is a critical period of “solidifying” gains before a break to retain said gains

2. For approximately how many weeks, prior to the beginning of the aforementioned break period, did you have the size with which you began the break? ____ weeks
Application
Gather data relating to “cementing” gains.
Connection with
Question 3 – the following question.

3. How much did your penis size change during the aforementioned break period?
Application
Gather data relating to “cementing” gains.

Connection with
Question 2 – the previous question.

4. What was your LOT before beginning any PE?
5. What is your current LOT? If you are not sure, please check for it now.

Application for questions 4 and 5
Gather data regarding average pre-PE LOT
Gather data regarding aver LOT change
Gather data regarding LOT and length gains
Gather data regarding LOT and change in the angle of erection

Questions 4 and 5 connections:
Each other
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Angle of erection question (Section III, question 6)

6. How has your erection angle been affected by PEing? Please remember the aforementioned distinction between erection quality and erection angle.
Application
Gather data on PE’s affect on erection angle

7. Before beginning any PE, did your erection have a noticeable curve (in any direction)?

IF YES TO #7:
8. How has the shape of your erection been affected by PEing?
__ PEing has increased the curvature of my penis, that is, it has exaggerated the pre-existing curve or added a new curve.
__ PEing hasn't affected my penis's shape.
__ PEing has straightened my penis to some degree (i.e., decreased the curvature).
[NOTE TO PROGRAMMER: Radio buttons. The first option should be coded as “-1”, the second as “0”, and the third as “1”.]

IF NO TO #7:
8. How has the shape of your erection been affected by PEing?
__ PEing has added some noticeable curvature to my penis.
__ PEing hasn't affected my penis's shape; it is still straight.

Application of questions 7 & 8:
Gather data on PE’s affect on penis curvature

9. Has PEing darkened or otherwise changed the color of your penis to a noticeable degree?
Application
Gather data on PE’s affect of penis color

10. This is a question about PE “plateaus.” After beginning to achieve PE gains (if you have achieved any), have you ever experienced a period of at least 6 weeks of continuous PEing during which you achieved no gains? PE’s affect of penis color
Application
Build data regarding the average time a plateau happens

11. At the beginning of your first plateau, what was the status of your erection quality compared to your pre-PE erection quality?
Application
Build data regarding the quality of erections when a plateau happens.

12. After experiencing your first plateau, did you find that you required a break from your normal PE schedule before you could again achieve gains?
Application
Build data regarding “overcoming” plateaus

13. How many times in your PE career have you experienced an injury severe enough to require you to majorly reduce or take a break from your PE regimen for at least 3 days? Please include recurrences of past injuries in your count.
Application
Build data on injuries (i.e. the average number of PE-related injuries)
Build data on injuries and its affect on gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

14. Which of the following injuries, if any, have you experienced as an apparent result of PEing? Please skip this question if you have never experienced a PE injury.
__ Thrombosed vein(s)
__ Blood from the penis
__ Erectile dysfunction/loss of penile sensitivity
__ Blister(s) on the penis
__ Spotting on the penis that took more than 3 days to disappear

Application
Build more data on injuries (i.e. the most common injuries)

Specified injury questions. “Injury X” is replaced with one of the injuries listed in question 14.

1. When you first experienced injury X, how many weeks break did you take thereafter from PE? If you are currently still resting because of the injury, please specify how many weeks ago injury X occurred.
Application
Build data regarding the average “break time” needed after a certain injury occurs.\

2. Did your first injury X fully heal?
Application
Gather data regarding the healing process

3. When you acquired your first injury X, were you using a warm-up before your PE sessions?
Application
Build data on warm-up and its affect on injuries

4. When you acquired your first injury X, had you recently (within the last week) increased the intensity of your PE regimen?
Application
Gather data regarding on intensity and its affect on injuries

5. To which PE exercise do you most attribute your first injury X?
__ Jelqing
__ Manual Stretching
__ Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)
__ Hanging
__ Pumping
__ Clamping
__ Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, etc.)

Application
Build data on the most dangerous exercises (i.e. the exercises that most injuries are attributed to)
Build data on certain exercises causing certain injuries

Section IV: Details about Your PE Regimen

1. For how many weeks did you follow the Newbie Routine prescribed at Thunder’s Place (or an even gentler beginner’s program) before trying any more advanced PE regimen?
Application
Gather data regarding the speed at which one builds up intensity and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

2. How many breaks of at least 3-weeks duration have you taken during your PE career? By “break,” we mean a complete cessation of (or at least a drastic reduction of) PE activities.
Application
Build more data regarding breaks and gains.

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

In the survey ”X” is replaced with one of the following: Jelqing, Manual Stretching, Manual Girth Squeezes, hanging, pumping or clamping

1. During your PE career, what has been the longest period of consecutive weeks during which you performed X regularly (i.e., at least twice a week)?
Note: This questions is also used for Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between consistently exercising using X and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

2. With how much intensity do you typically perform X?
Note: For hanging and pumping intensity is replaced with weight and pressure
Application
Gather data regarding the correlation between intensity and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

3. When X has been part of your PE regimen, how often have your sessions been preceded by a warm-up (e.g., a hot wrap)?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between using a warm-up before X and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

4. How hot, typically, have been your warm-ups before X, if you have ever employed warm-ups?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between the degree of heat used in a warm-up and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

5. When X has been part of your PE regimen, how often have you applied heat during the jelqing session (e.g., with a heat lamp)?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between using heat during X and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

6. How hot, typically, has been the heat applied during X, if you have ever applied heat during X?
Build data regarding the correlation between the degree of heat used while performing X and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

A.Jelqing

How long does each jelq stroke last for you, typically?
Application
Gather data regarding the correlation between length of jelq stroke and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

How often have your jelqing sessions included a lubricant? That is, how often have they been wet jelqing, rather than dry jelqing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between wet/dry jelqing and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

How often have your jelqing sessions been performed using jelq sticks (e.g., the Power Jelq)?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between jelq sticks and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

Of the jelq sessions that you have performed manually, how often have you used both hands, alternating to perform your jelq strokes
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between alternating jelq strokes and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

With what erection level, on average, have you performed your jelqs?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between the erection level jelqs are performed and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

B. Manual Stretching

2. IF you have used one particular type of stretch far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below.
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between certain stretches and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

C. Manual Girth Squeezes (Horses, Uli's, Jelq Squeezes, etc.)

2. IF you have used one particular type of girth squeeze far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below. Otherwise skip to the next question.
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between certain squeezes and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

D. Hanging, and E. Pumping

For hanging only: IF you have used one particular angle of hanging far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below.
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between certain angles and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

2. What is the maximum pressure that you have used regularly during your pumping career (i.e., for at least one 5+ minute set at least twice weekly)? ____ inches Hg
[Note: The same question is used in regards to hanging, except hanging asks for weight in pounds]
Application
Build data regarding the max weight used and gains
Build data regarding the max weight used and injuries

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)

3. With what pressure do you think you have made your best gains from pumping (if you have made gains)? We know that it is impossible to know this with any certainty, but if you have a strong intuition from you pumping experiences, please answer this question. ____ inches Hg
[Note: The same question is asked in regards to hanging, except hanging asks for weight in pounds]

Application
Build data regarding weight/pressure that produced the best gains.

G. Traction/Extender/All-Day-Stretcher Devices (e.g., Penimaster, AutoEXT, Monty's PE Weights, Homemade ADS, JES Extender, etc.)

2. IF you have used one particular type of extender/ADS system far more than any other during your PE career, please select it from the list below.
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between certain devices and gains

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)

Section V: Additional PE-related variables

1. At what age did you begin PEing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between age and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between age and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between age and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

2. Are you circumcised?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between circumcision and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between circumcision and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between circumcision and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

3. How many minutes per day, on average, have you spent masturbating or engaging in other sexual activity (e.g., intercourse) with an erection during periods of active PEing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between time engaging in sexual activity and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between time engaging in sexual activity and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between time engaging in sexual activity and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

4. During periods of active PEing, how many times per week, on average, have you had ejaculatory orgasms?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between ejaculation and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between ejaculation and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between ejaculation and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

5. How often, after a PE session, have you ejaculated within the following 2 hours?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between ejaculation within two hours of a PE session and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between ejaculation within two hours of a PE session and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between ejaculation within two hours of a PE session and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

6. How many tobacco cigarettes have you smoked per day, on average, during your periods of active PEing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between smoking cigarettes and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between smoking cigarettes and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between smoking cigarettes and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

7. How many alcoholic beverages (equivalent to one beer, one glass of wine, or one shot of liquor) have you drunk per week, on average, during your periods of active PEing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between drinking alcohol and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between drinking alcohol and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between drinking alcohol and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

8. How many times have you smoked marijuana per week, on average, during your periods of active PEing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between smoking marijuana and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between smoking marijuana and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between smoking marijuana and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

9. How much caffeine have you consumed per day, on average, during your periods of active PEing?
Application
Build data regarding the correlation between consuming caffeine and gains
Build data regarding the correlation between consuming caffeine and injuries
Build data regarding the correlation between consuming caffeine and other variables (i.e. angle of erection change)

Connection with
Measuring questions (Section I, questions 1 – 6)
Injury questions (Section III)
Other variable questions

10. Which of the following supplements and erection enhancers have you taken for at least one month during active PE? Please check all that apply.
__ Penis enlargement pills (any brand)
__ L-Arginine or NoX2
__ Yohimbe
__ Horny Goat Weed
__ Tongkat Ali
__ Tribulus Terrestris
__ Maca
__ Viagra (or the generic equivalent)
__ Levitra (or the generic equivalent)
__ Cialis (or the generic equivalent)

Application:
Gather data on the most used supplements
Gather data on the best/worst combination of supplements
Gather data on the supplements that cause the most gain/loss
Gather data on the best supplements for erection quality
Build data on supplements and its correlation to injuries
Allow the program to question the participant regarding only the suppelements he has used

Connection with
The measurement questions (section I, questions 1 – 6)
The erection quality question (section I, question 7)
The injury questions (section III)

1. For approximately how many weeks total of your active PEing have you consumed X? ____ weeks
2. How many days per week, on average, have you consumed X when it has been part of your diet? ____ days per week
3. On the days you consumed X, how many milligrams, on average, have you taken? ___ mg per day
4. During active PE, how often was your routine preceded (within 2 hours) by taking X?

Application:
Questions 1 – 3 will be used to gather the total consumption of X. This will allow us to determine if they consumed a significant amount (i.e. an amount that had an affect on one of the following):
- A change in size
- A change erection quality
- A change in erection angle
- Plateaus
- Injuries
- Other variable questions that might be affected

Connection with
The measurement questions (section I, questions 1 – 6)
The erection quality question (section I, question 7)
The erection angle question (section III, question 6)
The plateau questions (section III)
The injury questions (section III)

Question 4 will also be used to determine the affect consuming supplement X before exercising has on the above.


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Originally Posted by xeno
If post-retirement size changes are of interest, that should be explored in a seperate question.

Why? What’s the difference between a PEer who has been on break for 12 weeks, and a PEer who has been retired for 12 weeks? In either case, we see what size loss, if any, occurred during the break from PE.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
1. Yes, good catch: when I responded to your PM, I meant to say something about that — how my earlier comment about ignoring your post-retirement history wouldn’t hold true there. I’ll do something about that when it’s on Wiki, or you can (just note what you do). We still just want to ask about their longest time off from PE, but that could include post-retirement, if that’s their longest break. We don’t need a separate code or checkbox for retired PEers here, in my opinion.

Thank you for your willingness to try out wiki. I am getting a headache trying to keep it updated with your fast turn-overs ;) Also, like you said, if you update something just post it here, so we all know what changes are taking place.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
2. I thought that question was pretty clear. I changed it from the earlier phrasing of “how many minutes per day, on average, have you Xed during your active PEing” because that wasn’t what we wanted to know — we don’t want the participant to include days he didn’t X at all in his calculations. We want the product of the weeks, days, minutes questions to give us an estimate of total time doing X. This will only work if they only give the minutes for the days that they actually did X.


When I read it, I become a little confused. Maybe it is just me.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
3. All right, we can add that. Good idea!

Good Good. I am going to start PMing some guys now, having them taking a look at the survey.


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Why? What’s the difference between a PEer who has been on break for 12 weeks, and a PEer who has been retired for 12 weeks? In either case, we see what size loss, if any, occurred during the break from PE.

Maybe it’s not important. But it seems to me that a retired PEer is an apple and an active PEer on break is an orange. Maybe not. Just seems like the kind of distinction that could get fuzzy down the line if we don’t take steps to insure that it doesn’t become that way. Just an idea.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Thanks for the heads-up Xeno. We’ll have to be careful that that question is clear.

And Remek, the survey-taker is, of course, the sole arbiter of a question’s clarity. So if anyone else shares your confusion about the “minutes per day of doing it” questions, we will have to revise those.

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