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Pull this hard for length gains - theory

I have a quite simple theory about length gains. The theory has no scientific evidence what so ever, it’s just seems to make plain sense. I hope to get answers from PE-veterans, but all answers are good.

When I pull out my penis with medium force, it stops there, of course. But when I pull a little harder, it moves slightly. Not much, about 0.1”. But it moves. My theory on this is that when you pull under this, let’s call it; lock, you don’t get any lenght gains because if you pull under the lock, then you’re just stretching the penis to what it usually can handle - and there’s no need to adapt. But if you pull over this lock, you force the penis to grow this tall. And then you should be able to continue this and skip to change routines and such for length gains. Of course there are other things, like getting enough sleep. But I think this is an important thing to do for length gains.

So…?

Originally Posted by Levler
I have a quite simple theory about length gains. The theory has no scientific evidence what so ever, it’s just seems to make plain sense. I hope to get answers from PE-veterans, but all answers are good.

When I pull out my penis with medium force, it stops there, of course. But when I pull a little harder, it moves slightly. Not much, about 0.1”. But it moves. My theory on this is that when you pull under this, let’s call it; lock, you don’t get any lenght gains because if you pull under the lock, then you’re just stretching the penis to what it usually can handle - and there’s no need to adapt. But if you pull over this lock, you force the penis to grow this tall. And then you should be able to continue this and skip to change routines and such for length gains. Of course there are other things, like getting enough sleep. But I think this is an important thing to do for length gains.

So…?

I wonder if you have read lots of posts here by vets. Vets, like me, give the advice to stretch with medium force. This will mean that it will never get over the lock. I can tell you that I made great gains with pulling under the so called lock, and I am not the only one.

Aside from that, pulling over the lock increases the injury risk highly.

I see… well, I’ve only done this for two days (pull over the lock), but I’ll think I’ll quit then.

So much for the lock…


I'm pissed of with my gains and loses. I've been doing this for more than 4 years. I keep measuring wrong and the next time I update my signature you will see impressive results.

Originally Posted by Marco_187
So much for the lock…

Que?

The difference is whether you think you are stretching the penis or stimulating it to grow.

If you think we are stretching the penis, then it makes sense to pull it until it stretches. If this were true, lengthing the penis would be a simple matter of increasing the forces until your dick gets longer.

Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem to work very well, it seems to have the opposite effect for most of us.

For most of us, using moderate to light forces, seem to get the job done better, with much less injury and loss of erectile quality. Therefore there are other mechanisms at work other than simple plastic deformation.

I used to think this way too (one of my posts in the Newbie forum asks about this) but I’m going to start using medium force as others have suggested.


Starting Stats (5/21/06) - BPEL: 6.75 | NBPEL: 5.75 | EG: 5.75 (Mid) 6 (base)

Current Stats (8/21/06) - BPEL: 7.00 | NBPEL: 6 | EG: 6.0 (Mid) 6.375 (base)

My new Goal: To have the volume of a Coke can (21.65625 cubic inches ;) )

PenisMaster works for me, and that is considered light stretching for a long duration.


"Look what your brother did to the door!"

In reference to what sparkyx said earlier, I personally believe that PE is simply stretching the penis as opposed to stimulating growth (I would imagine that actually stimulating growth of the penis would require a recreation of biological conditions which cause your penis to grow in the first place - i.e. hormonal levels roughly equivalent to what yours were as you were going through puberty, pituitary gland stimulation, etc.). That said, I am still in favor of using mild force to get gains. Not only because it avoids injury, but also because collagen is an adaptive tissue. Too much force applied over a period of time could very plausibly cause the tissue to overcompensate, in essence, causing collagen fibrils to become so strong that the force necessary to break them is greater than the maximum force that is safe to apply to your penis. It seems to me to be a delicate balance of using the exact amount of force necessary to break groups of collagen fibrils without using so much force that the other fibrils being stressed (or in some cases the fibrils one is currently working to break) become resistant to the force being applied. The underlying problem in the aforementioned scenario being; after someone reaches the point at which the tissue is resistant to the force applied, their natural inclination is most likely to gradually increase the force which they are exerting on their penis (be it with their hands or with weights) in an effort to restart gains. If done so too gradually, the tissue will continue to adapt accordingly (this is what is commonly known in the PE world as a “plateau”). <TANGENT>Not that all hope is lost at this point. Placing no load on the tissue causes them to become weaker again* thus if one were to reach a plateau they could take a break for a while and start their PE routine again in order to restart gains. Given the aforementioned conditions, I would probably start back at or around the force I was using when I had stopped my previous routine. I guess technically the force used when you start back should be inversely proportional to the amount of time you have taken a break for, but because I wouldn’t know where to begin in calculating the ratio, I would go with what I felt was best. For anyone that has hit a plateau and not tried taking a break, I would suggest giving it a try … don’t see where one would have anything to lose in doing so.</TANGENT>

* - I have read many studies which state this, so I do believe it to be true. However, the mechanism of it eludes me. Usually when cells die, the nucleic acids which were contained within trigger the scavenging phase of healing after which said cells are replaced. In cases such as tissue weakening without load applied, there must be some way of signalling to the body that not all of those cells need to be replaced. If anyone has any idea or knowledge of why this is so, please feel free to reply.


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This is me in case you ever want to know what kind of psycho you're dealing with.

Leatherface, how much have you been using Penimaster for and how much have you gained thinking of getting one myself.

Simon

I was using it consistently about a year ago and made some decent length gains and then stopped for awhile due to a crazy schedule.

I have some time off this summer so I’ve been using it like a mad man and am already seeing a difference again.

I think the Penismaster is a great product for lazy guys like me who hate to do manual PE.

Good luck


"Look what your brother did to the door!"

You guys are saying The secret to a nice flaccid hang is light-medium pulls every other day in the shower? My flaccid is really small for some reason. Though my erections are 6.5” and hard (I could use and inch) , my flaccid though, only looks like it should maybe a couple days a month if I’m lucky. The rest of the time its all tight and small. I’ve been researching everything from pelvic floor balance to trying to nofap to relaxing my penis by yoga and meditation for the past 2 years after trial and error with PE. I thought I was on to something with kegels and reverse kegels, but that too was short lived.

I would give anything to have a flushed flaccid like that all the time, like 4.5”. On those days its very soft,plump, THE HEAD IS BIGGER, and I am aroused easier, and get a little more erect. My confidence is the main factor, when my flaccid is plump I am so much happier, and feel more like a man than a boy. My small flaccid penis has honestly kept me from having a gf this whole time (I’m 24) I only let girls see my dick if its semi or full erect.

If anyone here was to see my 2” flaccid penis on an average day, you would think I was 4 inches hard. I have to dress accordingly when I go to the beach or play basketball so people won’t see the tiny bulge. I can only imagine being in a relationship with a girl when I can comfortably be seen naked in front of her while flaccid. .I also sometimes have problems with delayed ejaculation with girls.

Originally Posted by tullamore
You guys are saying The secret to a nice flaccid hang is light-medium pulls every other day in the shower? My flaccid is really small for some reason. Though my erections are 6.5” and hard (I could use and inch) , my flaccid though, only looks like it should maybe a couple days a month if I’m lucky. The rest of the time its all tight and small. I’ve been researching everything from pelvic floor balance to trying to nofap to relaxing my penis by yoga and meditation for the past 2 years after trial and error with PE. I thought I was on to something with kegels and reverse kegels, but that too was short lived.

I would give anything to have a flushed flaccid like that all the time, like 4.5”. On those days its very soft,plump, THE HEAD IS BIGGER, and I am aroused easier, and get a little more erect. My confidence is the main factor, when my flaccid is plump I am so much happier, and feel more like a man than a boy. My small flaccid penis has honestly kept me from having a gf this whole time (I’m 24) I only let girls see my dick if its semi or full erect.

If anyone here was to see my 2” flaccid penis on an average day, you would think I was 4 inches hard. I have to dress accordingly when I go to the beach or play basketball so people won’t see the tiny bulge. I can only imagine being in a relationship with a girl when I can comfortably be seen naked in front of her while flaccid. .I also sometimes have problems with delayed ejaculation with girls.

Honestly man, I would not sweat a small flaccid length. You’re confidence and state of mind is being affected because of the size of your soft penis but in reality this wouldn’t matter unless you were walking around naked, which then it would matter for about 5 minutes until you’re being tackled and tazed by police men (if you’re in the US). Your flaccid length is fine how it is, and any girl you’re in a relationship is with think the same, as long as you treat her right and fuck her better. My ex used to be fascinated on how my tiny flaccid (about 1.5 inches then) could grow to 6.5 just by her touching me.

Don’t let it affect you, don’t let it sway you from going after girls, be confident on what you have now and nothing will be able to stop you.

Originally Posted by LiquidHeroine
Honestly man, I would not sweat a small flaccid length. You’re confidence and state of mind is being affected because of the size of your soft penis but in reality this wouldn’t matter unless you were walking around naked, which then it would matter for about 5 minutes until you’re being tackled and tazed by police men (if you’re in the US). Your flaccid length is fine how it is, and any girl you’re in a relationship is with think the same, as long as you treat her right and fuck her better. My ex used to be fascinated on how my tiny flaccid (about 1.5 inches then) could grow to 6.5 just by her touching me.

Don’t let it affect you, don’t let it sway you from going after girls, be confident on what you have now and nothing will be able to stop you.

Your comment is very heart felt and I appreciate it. But its not only the 5 seconds I’m naked. When I wake up the morning after sex my penis is so small its crazy, like 2 inches tops. Plus I love the beach and basketball, both of which, you can see my penis through my shorts. I know girls will act like they don’t care but it just kills me because sometimes my flaccid is so big Id show ANYONE, and thats what kills me. Me and my future wife/gf deserve a penis thats normal. But 90% of the time it looks like it belongs on a preteen.

I’m beginning to think it could maybe all be fixed with a blood thinner , or some everyday anxiety prescription, I have always been the nervous type even though you would never guess it from my personality. Like I previously said. I have been researching penis gains for over 2 ears and have heard it all. From my experience, I will let everyone know the key to a hard erection, Is relaxing your penis and your mind, Not subconsciously clenching , and not trying to orgasm every time you get a semi erection. I wish someone could give me advice as good as this, but for flaccid size.

Its very annoying when I get my desired flaccid length from what I thought was something I did or some food I ate only to be let down a week later.

PS I know many men would kill just to get an erection and am thankful for all my blessings. I know it could always be worse but the answer is so simple probably, considering I do it accidentally every once in a while.

Cialis improves flaccid hang a lot


Starting Stats: 4.3" MSEG, 5.75-6" BPEL

Current Stats: 6.25" MSEG, 6.825"-7.125" BPEL

Goal: 6-6.5" MSEG, 8" BPEL

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