PreEmptive Deconditioning While Gaining

OK Just because I voted for President Bush….LOL

Seriously I had a brainy moment this morning while exchanging emails with my good buddy Shiver regarding the topic of deconditioning. Regardless of what you do for PE 2 things are true:

#1- We all want to make gains as quickly as possible.
#2- Eventually a decon break will be necessary unless you’re a genetic freak.

Given these two facts the obvious best case scenario is to spend the least amount of time in decon possible and the most time gaining as possible.

Here’s the all important analogy- Think of pushing a car that has run out of gas. If you try starting from a dead stop it’s really hard, but if the car is already rolling….

I think it would be good for us to look at the value of taking scheduled breaks even when still gaining. I think that if someone waits until they have achieved a high level of conditioning and completely stopped gaining to take a break…it will take much longer to decondition than is necessary.

Conversely, I think that if we undertook a series of scheduled breaks that we could consistently keep the tissues from getting too conditioned to gain. Thoughts?

I used to PE alot and saw minor gains, then stopped as I started getting lazy again (smoking weed etc.)

Id say I’ve been doing it on and off for 6 months and maybe stopped totally for 2 months, when I came back to it the gains I saw we’re more than when I 1st started, so I think that a break every now and then is good but usually I’m forced to take a break because some days I may be too tired from the gym to PE when I get home but I always try an PE a bit everyday even if its tugging on my dick at my desk in work!

On a side note since I started PE again I can’t stop touching my dick! I play with it all day like it’s craving more attention!

Weird. I was thinking about posting on this very topic yesterday. But I did a search on it and felt it may have been discussed too much to start another thread on it. But since it is here I will put in my .02.

I think you are on to something. I used to be a huge weight trainer in high school (6 days a week, 3 hours a day, and lots o aminos). And we found over time that if you took a week break every couple of months that when you came back to training you were actually stronger than before the break. I am thinking that the same may be true for PE. Now I know that the penis is not a muscle and the PE is not like weight training, but I think the theory is sound. The real question though is what is the appropriate deconditioning break time and frequency. That would be a lifetime study in itself I think.

I plan on going for two months before measuring. Taking a break and measuring at the end of the break. Then measuring about a week back into my routine.

I have just finished my first month (well a couple days past) and I have yet to measure a second time (the first being before I started my routine). I will let you know what happens.

It may not be true at all, but I think it is worth researching and testing.

As gprent101 once said, “make hay while the sun shines.” If gains start to slow considerably, maybe I could agree it’s time for a break. But, if you’re still gaining strongly, forget about it.

In theory, if you were still making good gains a short lay-off should not prevent you from picking back up near or at where you stopped.

It’s all a numbers game. If taking every 4th and 5th week off allows someone to train/gain for 12 months straight I think that is more ideal than 3 months of training followed by 3 months off. The first scenario allows 30+ weeks of active PE in a year while the second allows 24 weeks or less.

One has to consider how much time spent gaining before the decondition break also. No point taking a break 2 weeks into a routine, but just as ineffective would be after 5 years. Proper time to decondition and length of deconditioning break is a field of study in itself. Modesto made a good point about when gains slow down, but is there a difference between when gains slow after 1+ year or 1 week?

I think you need to bleed your gains out and keep up the PE until you stop gaining for a few months, know you’ve cemented them and then decondition. Taking a break too soon could caused you hard earned dick that would have been yours.

BTW to any moderators, is it possible to get certain highly used words added to the spell check? Such as decondition?

I think, as said before, the key is the frequency and duration of the break. I think after every two or three months a 5 day to a week break wouldn’t result in loss of gains to that point. It may, however, give your unit the rest needed to continue consistent gains. Or I could very well just be talking out my ass. Which is highly possible.

This seems like an idea that has merit in theory. Taking random numbers, say your conditioning after a year of PE was 100, and for optimal safety (not using too much weight/pressure) you would use a work rate of no more than 150. Would you do better to take a break now, and reduce your conditioning to say, 70 before you ever continue past 100, or would it be better to work up the intensity to 150, get what you can then decondition for what is assumed to be a longer time to get to 70 (or whatever)?

In my experience, deconditioning was much more effective when there was something to decondition, for example if I took a break when I was hanging a high amount like 30 pounds, I would be able to get good fatigue from more reduced weights than after taking a break at 20 pounds. I think that was just because my ligs etc are naturally very tough. I could handle high weights from quite early on. I’d read posts from guys saying ‘I moved up to 7 pounds today and it feels like a TON!’ and think are you kidding?

You’d have to consider cementing gains as Redwood says. In my experience a 5 day break would result in lost gains, but I’m not a good example as I have always had a difficult time making gains as well as cementing them.

Easy gainers of course would not really need to bother with this, as the time scale for them to reach their goals would be acceptable for most people. And of course there’s consistent gains to keep motivation up. So given that it’s not a proven theory these people would do best sticking to their current plan (unless they are the gambling type).

Since hardgainers are likely to require a higher than normal amount of work to cement gains, it’s a very good idea to do this before a break. Re-doing work that has been ‘undone’ during a break simply takes too much time and effort to justify the risk of lost gains. Of course, once you feel you have cemented a hard gain, a deconditioning break is a good test of that assumption (because we can’t really know for sure). That could be useful when cementing future gains and when you are finished with PE for good.