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Porn: Poison with the labels that beg you to lick them

Originally Posted by saulgoode45
I had been having trouble with low EQ, which was one of the reasons I started PE last summer. I took some Viagra, and the erections were so much better that I felt ~something~ has to be wrong.

I’ve been sexually frustrated in my marriage for a couple of years. So guess where I turned — porn. My wife didn’t care, and doesn’t, so long as I don’t bother her with it, and it sort of turns her on, but not enough for her to really get hip-twitchy over it. She caught me a few times, no big deal, but I think there were several effects here happening at once.

First effect: Time-suck. It made me horny to think about it, and all I needed was some free time. Then, when I didn’t have ~free~ time, I made time, and sometimes that wasn’t the best time.

Second effect: Compulsiveness. I felt an impulse to jerk off to porn, right now, stop all activity I gotta rub one out. Really, if you feel a compulsive urge to do ANYTHING, it is an addiction and needs to be metered. Drinking, smoking, eating, coffee etc are all things we do compulsively, without forethought.

Third effect: Obsessive thoughts. It wanders around in your head for a while afterward. It’s a bit like drinking. It takes a while to ejaculate the images out of your brain — nothing premature about this one, it will take hours and days to drip out.

Fourth effect: Loss of self-respect. I felt like a turd, because let’s face it, jerking off to porn is not the most noble of activities, especially if it’s abused.

Fifth effect: Loss of respect. While she didn’t say it outright, I do believe my wife lost some respect for me. They won’t admit it, but even if they don’t want to have sex with you (I believe mine is still a bit depressed), your woman doesn’t want you thinking about or lusting after other women. So it probably pushed her further away than she already was.

Sixth effect: Physical dependency. As many of us have observed with our own willies, you begin to depend on the rush to get going. Then your erections become ED, and sex may suffer. I never suffered sex, because we don’t have sex very often, but my nocturnal and morning erections were pretty much non-existent.

I cut out porn back in the fall. I forget what month, September or October. I’ve had a couple of relapses, and the other day I tried it, but it has genuinely become uninteresting. It’s like missing a season of some gooffy sitcom. You lose your place and never can get back into it. The other day was a very lame orgasm. I had to make up for it later by using my brain, and that was a much better finishing.

I have gained some self-respect. I proved I was committed enough to quit, and I did. You can look back on these things when you face more challenging bad habits, and say, I quit porn! I know how to change things. I can do this, just follow these simple steps. You just retrace your path, see, and cut out another bad habit.

I have more time. No doubt about it. I have more time.

I have more energy. I’m not masturbating as often, which generates a healthy dose of sexual tension, which creates life energy in a male.

As others have stated, I purged some unhealthy thoughts from my head. I see things clearer, now, especially women — and they look way better.

And so on. In all, quitting has been overwhelmingly positive for me mentally and physically, has freed up more time to do other things, and has earned me a great deal of self-respect, which will eventually filter into gaining more respect from my wife.

- Saul

Pretty much this. Something had to be wrong. I was considering surgery for venous leakage it was so screwy.


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Originally Posted by Zen Blaze
Have completed 8 days no porn and masturbation so woo! Thought I’d share.

Still having trouble getting a nice hard erection anytime and my sex drive isn’t up where it normally is yet though the last 2 nights while I’ve been laying in bed just thinking in a non sexual manner about a girl I like I got a nice big erection! I even thought I looked a lot bigger than usual.

During my PE session tonight for the first time since stopping the porn I was able to gain an erection and regulate it during the session so progress is happening, just have to keep at it!

Takes time. That’s the key. 1 day at a time. Every day is a victory.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 It's a long story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm 7 years in and counting. Put the work in then the gains will come. All you have to do is keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Takes time. That’s the key. 1 day at a time. Every day is a victory.

They say addicts are always prone to relapse but really they’re just going through the lapse of getting rid of their problem, which means it may take some tries. Smokers try on average sixteen times before they actually quit but they’re not relapsing since they haven’t gotten better yet. Because quitting implies that you’re not interested in going back therefore its not a relapse unless you deliberately go back.

Wow. I originally found this site back in August of 2016 because I was looking for EQ solutions (quit porn at the same time for the same reason). I lurked until yesterday when I decided to join. Then today, this is the first thread I see and the first I can actually contribute too. Life can be funny that way.

First, thanks for sharing this thoughtfulgold. I really respect the honesty, and I’m going to try to honor it by being just as honest about my own situation.

I think your comparison to alcohol is a really good one. Consider this - some people are addicted to alcohol, other people go through periods of over-using alcohol to the extent that it damages their body but never struggle with being addicted, still other people drink whenever they do without ever really harming themselves, and some people just don’t have a taste for it at all.

Personally, I didn’t have any problems cutting the porn. No slips, and no exceptions (“These Google images don’t have actual nudity, so that’s okay right?”) and really it hasn’t been a challenge for me. I was lucky; for me it wasn’t an addiction. However, it’s painfully apparent to me that I damaged myself by the amount of porn I consumed over the period I consumed it for. I was having zero sleep erections, zero morning wood, and no spontaneous erections (or even arousal for that matter). I just got to the point where I had to accept this was crazy. This is NOT how a 37-year-old body should behave.

I took the “throw-everything-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks” approach: diet, exercise, PE, and NO porn. I’m now 5 months in, and I’d be lying if I said I was any noticeable improvements yet. In any area. It’s made me accept that healing will be SLOW, but worth it (obviously!). I’ve had morning wood maybe 3 or 4 times, and an erection one night so hard it woke me up. I don’t think I’ve been that happy in quite a while!

If anyone is interested in some free advice (from somewhat who PROBABLY doesn’t know what he’s talking about) I’d recommend paying close attention to your body, and really think about the roll porn plays in your life. What is your first knee-jerk reaction to never looking at porn ever again, starting right now. Hold on to that initial reaction and really look at it. Addiction is a condition that you can only diagnose once the remedy fails.

In any case, whether or not you have any personal issues with porn I think this conversation about porn is critically important. Fathers with sons take note…

P.S. - Shout out to Zen Blaze. Congratulation man, keep at it!

Originally Posted by improvement2017
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In any case, whether or not you have any personal issues with porn I think this conversation about porn is critically important. Fathers with sons take note…

I’ve had a couple of talks with my son about it, but nothing very serious. I took away his computer at my house because he had loaded it up with porn.

We are camping this weekend, and I plan to discuss some racy topics with him. He’ll turn 16 soon, and was an early bloomer. He’s a good kid, a lot like his dad, wants to please everyone, so I need to make sure we discuss it honestly. I don’t want him to feel that sex or masturbation — or even porn — is evil, if you get me. That leads to guilt-tripping later, and a feeling of low worth when you find out you’re just human like everyone else.

- Saul


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I never had a wet dream before until I quit porn. About 2 months in I had 2 of them lol. Funny thing was at that time I wasn’t abstaining from masturbation. I only stopped masturbating because I dropped my fleshlight in the toilet and I just don’t want to use my hands to do it. If I ever want to masturbate again I’d have to buy a fleshlight. But I prefer to use my built up sexual energy on more productive things like pe.


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I always say to kids (I’m 25) that drugs aren’t evil because drugs actually have usefulness but porn I guess could be called evil since the bible says plus there’s no use except to fill your mind with filth

Originally Posted by Emilymcbabe
I always say to kids (I’m 25) that drugs aren’t evil because drugs actually have usefulness but porn I guess could be called evil since the bible says plus there’s no use except to fill your mind with filth

Where does the bible say porn is evil ?

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Where does the bible say porn is evil ?

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3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Originally Posted by saulgoode45
I’ve had a couple of talks with my son about it, but nothing very serious. I took away his computer at my house because he had loaded it up with porn.

We are camping this weekend, and I plan to discuss some racy topics with him. He’ll turn 16 soon, and was an early bloomer. He’s a good kid, a lot like his dad, wants to please everyone, so I need to make sure we discuss it honestly. I don’t want him to feel that sex or masturbation — or even porn — is evil, if you get me. That leads to guilt-tripping later, and a feeling of low worth when you find out you’re just human like everyone else.

- Saul

I think you’re right on the money about this Saul. I got a lot of that when I was a young kid (sex/masturbation/porn = bad) and it certainly didn’t do me any favors. Personally, I just think it’s all about understanding the potential risks that are involved (and for my money, I believe there CAN be significant risks for some people. Thoughtfulgold and myself for instance). To keep the alcohol analogy going, alcohol isn’t “bad”; it’s just a substance. It’s only one’s habits of consumption that determine its “badness” (either in the form of addiction, milder compulsion, or the damage that can be done just through bingeing).

I’m not a scientist or a doctor, so I can’t speak to the medical accuracy of their claims; but anecdotally speaking, a great deal of the information I’ve read on the yourbrainonporn.com site (no personal affiliation, just a resource I recommend) resonated pretty powerfully with me.

Personally, I think it might even be worthwhile to draw a distinction between “porn” (a single magazine, or *maybe* a video making the rounds) and internet pornography. Couple of buddies and a stolen 6-pack? That’s one thing. The keys to an alcohol distribution warehouse? Maybe a little different. Then throw in an absolute guarantee that no one has anyway of stopping you, finding out, OR changing the lock? Well, caveat emptor.

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Where does the bible say porn is evil ?

There are all sorts of rules about spilling semen and having sex with a woman on her period and such in the Jewish texts. You have to stay outside the city walls for a week if you masturbate, which would spill over into the no-porn argument, since it encourages masturbation. The rules are in the Jewish texts, but not so much in the books the Romans wrote. The Romans were fond of lewd behavior, and they didn’t show much against it in the New Testament.

In effect, though, they said much the same thing as we restated here on Thunders — unbridled lust is not a healthy emotion. Ergo, porn is not a healthy habit.

Frankly, though, I love the Bible. It is full of humans being imperfectly human, especially the Jewish books (what Christians call the Old Testament, with some Roman modifications and addition/deletions). There is a ton of wonderful philosophy regarding marriage, relationships, how to view God and his hand in your life, and the book of Solomon makes a compelling case that the sole purpose in life is to find and experience joy. So don’t think I’m knocking the book.

- Saul


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Originally Posted by capernicus1
Where does the bible say porn is evil ?

It doesn’t in specific words. The Ten Commandments include:

You shouldn’t commit adultery; and
Do not desire another man’s wife

Jesus later clarified that if you think it in your mind (desire or lust visually after a woman) then you commit the sin. The desciples accurately concluded that no one could be sinless on their own power.

If you believe that you are committing these sins with porn, then you are but that determination is rightfully left to the user since no one on this planet has the right to judge you or your motivations. I believe the determination can be made based on the outcome. In other words, if consuming porn makes you a better person or has beneficial effects on you as a man then perhaps it is good for you. Alternatively, if porn has negative effects (low EQ, damaging relations with your significant other, and for me putting a wall between me and God) then it is bad.


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I’m curious what God’s take on PE is? I guess he approves on some level since he wouldn’t allow gains if not. 🙏🏽


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Originally Posted by 8x6Dream
I’m curious what God’s take on PE is? I guess he approves on some level since he wouldn’t allow gains if not. 🙏🏽

Prey for a bigger dick and see what happens !

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Prey for a bigger dick and see what happens !

Haha! Haven’t prayed in years. Don’t see myself doing it anytime soon.


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