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Porn: Poison with the labels that beg you to lick them

Great post thoughtfulgold,

Even if I didn’t agree with everything, I was happy to hear about what you had to say on the matter. Like a lot of topics discussed her on Thunder’s I appreciate how they makes me think and reflect on subjects that I never talk about outside of this place.

I watch porn regularly, every time I PE and more. Never watched any with any girlfriend, although I’m sure it can be a great experience, I never needed it or felt like it would be appropriate with any of the women I had sex with.
I might be a bit addicted, but I think I just like it an use it in a healthy way. I always had a pretty healthy sexual appetite since very early in life, and even though porn was a whole different world back then, being able to masturbate and getting turn on by the same centerfold over and over again by opposition of having to search throughout countless online videos just to find that perfect scene, with that actress you really like, doing or saying the right kinky things, with the camera angle that just does it for you, and of course with the male counterpart that doesn’t ruin it all for whatever annoying reason…
Got a bit of track, I was saying that I have a pretty healthy sexual appetite so when I’m not in a relationship porn is just inevitable, and when in one I still watch it sometimes or a lot according to how much I see her and her appetite.
I never cheated, loyalty is THE keyword for me when it comes to relationships my girlfriends have always turned me on way more than porn has, they always get me hard in a second when porn can take a while, and when it comes to climaxing there is simply no contest.

All that said, and that is a little bit aimed at you emilymacbabe, no women has ever had the same amount of sexual needs than me, I doubt there will ever be one. I need to come many times most of the times when having sex and sleeping with a girlfriend without having sex hasn’t happened a lot. Porn has helped on the matter and in a none toxic way, I get that most women don’t need or want to have as much sex as guys do and being all about loyalty I don’t have a better solution not to cheat or satisfy some of my needs. Watching a lot of porn doesn’t have to be a bad thing, it all depends on your mindset, what you get out of it, and how it affects your sex life. Thoughtfulgold said it, it’s not because someone can’t handle one thing that it’s all bad or unmanageable for others.
I was thrilled to see that a woman was participating on thunder’s, I would love to get more input from women on PE, what they think of it, why they’re here, but English not being my first tongue, I had to Google “alky” and being one I didn’t appreciate that comment too much, we try not to be too judgmental here.

That’s it for my little input on the subject.


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Everyone thinks porn isn’t affecting them until ed slowly become apart of their lives. It may be OK NOW. In an old porn thread here about 10 years ago I said porn was harmless. It hadn’t given me ed at that time. But fast forward a few years later it hit me hard.


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Originally Posted by Rahman810
Everyone thinks porn isn’t affecting them until ed slowly become apart of their lives. It may be OK NOW. In an old porn thread here about 10 years ago I said porn was harmless. It hadn’t given me ed at that time. But fast forward a few years later it hit me hard.

ED is the obvious side effect that people will notice, but the side effect they may not notice as easily is just their ambition and drive. Maybe because it’s so natural for people they don’t know what it’s like without it. I did a one week challenge recently and I felt like a million bucks towards the end of it better than I’ve felt in years. Now I’m on a 30 day challenge.. And that doesn’t necessarily mean no masturbating. Let’s be clear there’s nothing wrong with that it’s completely normal and healthy. Porn is the enemy not masturbation

Hi all, I think I’ll start here for my first post as it’s something that I’ve found has affected me more than I thought up until very recently. This topic couldn’t have come at a better time.

I’ve been watching porn since I was around 13 years old, I didn’t watch it very often until I was closer to 15 when it became more accessible with a smart phone. I gradually watched it more throughout the years masturbating to it for 1-2 hours at a time and sometimes multiple times a day though for not as long. This was all well and good my EQ was fine but after getting a blow job for the first time, not being able to feel it and during my girlfriend at the time asked if I cum from this. Then the same day having sex and also not feeling very much at all she raised the thought that I might be desensitized which I was extremely from all the masturbation while watching porn.

Porn was not an issue at this stage as from the moment we were going out I didn’t watch any and never thought of it. My EQ was great though, we were having sex for up to 5 hours at a time several days a week for the duration of our relationship, she used to tell me that I’m so hard and that fucking me was one of her favourite things in the world which meant a lot coming from someone who had 10 years of experience on me. I could stay rock hard the entire time we had sex and I think the year worth of PE prior helped a lot with this but because of the desensitization I was never able to cum during sex. I started no fap to help my sensitivity I got one month in before I jerked off to cum while we were having sex. I didn’t really start again but I wasn’t masturbating much at all only during sex and not long after I was able to cum from sex and feel a lot more.

A few months on I had to move towns so our relationship went long distance, I got to start PE again (as I didn’t do any while we were together) and I started masturbating more because we were away from each other. Went to visit her after a few weeks and she broke up with me. This basically begun a downward spiral of masturbation and porn I guess to fill the hole. I’d ejaculate 2-5 times a day while watching porn every day. This went on for about 7 months when I decided to start no fap again at the start of 2016. At this point my EQ was fine for now, 2 weeks of no fap and I had sex again, the most sensitivity I’ve ever had she could make me cum. I also received comments on how hard I was and that is was the best sex of her life. Basically after that though I continued into the downward spiral of porn and masturbation. I’d literally told myself every day I would quite porn and masturbation and it never happened.

Fast forward to November I decided to start PE seriously again as it has been quite inconsistent since that break up (which at this point was still somewhat affecting me 15 months on) even though I never stopped doing it. I continued to use porn during my sessions and then would watch it after while I masturbated. I had to take 10 days off over Christmas which I thought would be a great opportunity to kick them both while deloading from PE. I got 2 days then I caved. The day after I had sex for the first time in basically a year, was in a car kind of awkward but this is were I started to notice EQ issues. Once again I could barely feel a thing but this time I couldn’t get rock hard like I usually could, I was hard but still sort of a bit soft. I was instantly blaming it on the PE even though my PI’s had been extremely positive.

Started PE the day I got back. I’ve been noticing I’m not getting horny as often and I’m usually super horny all the time, and even when I am I can’t get fully hard.. That is until I watched porn, I become instantly aroused and hard. I was so shocked when I discovered this, I haven’t noticed because I always used it but it has slowly given me ED. As soon as this became apparent I said enough is enough it has to stop. I have to quite porn for good and stop masturbation for now. My session quality has degraded because I’m no longer using that visual stimulus to maintain and erection and because I’m so damaged making it happen myself is difficult but I am determined to fix this. I’m currently 4 days in and I haven’t watched any porn or masturbated. I’ve never had support for this before so hopefully becoming an active member of the forum we can all support each other. I think the next course of action is to delete the hundreds of bookmarks and videos of porn off my computer but after all this time you kind of get attached.

Time to kick this problem and get back to normal.

Originally Posted by Zen Blaze
Hi all, I think I’ll start here for my first post as it’s something that I’ve found has affected me more than I thought up until very recently. This topic couldn’t have come at a better time.

I’ve been watching porn since I was around 13 years old, I didn’t watch it very often until I was closer to 15 when it became more accessible with a smart phone. I gradually watched it more throughout the years masturbating to it for 1-2 hours at a time and sometimes multiple times a day though for not as long. This was all well and good my EQ was fine but after getting a blow job for the first time, not being able to feel it and during my girlfriend at the time asked if I cum from this. Then the same day having sex and also not feeling very much at all she raised the thought that I might be desensitized which I was extremely from all the masturbation while watching porn.

Porn was not an issue at this stage as from the moment we were going out I didn’t watch any and never thought of it. My EQ was great though, we were having sex for up to 5 hours at a time several days a week for the duration of our relationship, she used to tell me that I’m so hard and that fucking me was one of her favourite things in the world which meant a lot coming from someone who had 10 years of experience on me. I could stay rock hard the entire time we had sex and I think the year worth of PE prior helped a lot with this but because of the desensitization I was never able to cum during sex. I started no fap to help my sensitivity I got one month in before I jerked off to cum while we were having sex. I didn’t really start again but I wasn’t masturbating much at all only during sex and not long after I was able to cum from sex and feel a lot more.

A few months on I had to move towns so our relationship went long distance, I got to start PE again (as I didn’t do any while we were together) and I started masturbating more because we were away from each other. Went to visit her after a few weeks and she broke up with me. This basically begun a downward spiral of masturbation and porn I guess to fill the hole. I’d ejaculate 2-5 times a day while watching porn every day. This went on for about 7 months when I decided to start no fap again at the start of 2016. At this point my EQ was fine for now, 2 weeks of no fap and I had sex again, the most sensitivity I’ve ever had she could make me cum. I also received comments on how hard I was and that is was the best sex of her life. Basically after that though I continued into the downward spiral of porn and masturbation. I’d literally told myself every day I would quite porn and masturbation and it never happened.

Fast forward to November I decided to start PE seriously again as it has been quite inconsistent since that break up (which at this point was still somewhat affecting me 15 months on) even though I never stopped doing it. I continued to use porn during my sessions and then would watch it after while I masturbated. I had to take 10 days off over Christmas which I thought would be a great opportunity to kick them both while deloading from PE. I got 2 days then I caved. The day after I had sex for the first time in basically a year, was in a car kind of awkward but this is were I started to notice EQ issues. Once again I could barely feel a thing but this time I couldn’t get rock hard like I usually could, I was hard but still sort of a bit soft. I was instantly blaming it on the PE even though my PI’s had been extremely positive.

Started PE the day I got back. I’ve been noticing I’m not getting horny as often and I’m usually super horny all the time, and even when I am I can’t get fully hard.. That is until I watched porn, I become instantly aroused and hard. I was so shocked when I discovered this, I haven’t noticed because I always used it but it has slowly given me ED. As soon as this became apparent I said enough is enough it has to stop. I have to quite porn for good and stop masturbation for now. My session quality has degraded because I’m no longer using that visual stimulus to maintain and erection and because I’m so damaged making it happen myself is difficult but I am determined to fix this. I’m currently 4 days in and I haven’t watched any porn or masturbated. I’ve never had support for this before so hopefully becoming an active member of the forum we can all support each other. I think the next course of action is to delete the hundreds of bookmarks and videos of porn off my computer but after all this time you kind of get attached.

Time to kick this problem and get back to normal.

I’m pretty new here too. Initially I thought this forum was strictly all PE related (and it is for the most part 90% of it) but this is a cool little group here to try and overcome the obstacle porn can present. I 1000% hear you on the desensitized aspect of your problem. I had the same problem back when I was in college and it absolutely sucked. Talk about making a chick feel bad about bad about herself. She’s probably thinking “Jesus, what do I need to do to get you to finish?” It all leads to more stress too. Good news is, desensitization goes away fairly quickly, I can attest to that. You say you’re 4 days in, so you’ll know what I mean fairly soon, if not already. Like I said in my post just previous to yours, don’t mistake masturbation for porn though. Everything in moderation of course, but to expect a fully healthy man to never masturbate, if he doesn’t have a girlfriend or wife, is pretty unlikely and not practical. It’s a very healthy thing to do. Once every 2-3 weeks isn’t going to kill you, but without porn as a stimulate of course

My advice to you is keep checking on threads like this whenever you feel the urge. Even it’s not just Thundersplace, just anything. Read a book, play a video game, workout, or even do some PE, whatever keeps your mind occupied on something more constructive. If you do all that your desensitization problem will relieve itself and you’ll be having a hard time lasting more than 10 minutes in the future. Which at this point I’m sure you’d welcome! Haha

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Originally Posted by Emilymcbabe
I was gonna talk more but I have a feeling it won’t be well received sorry guys

It’s great to have women here to get their insight on things, but we don’t attack other members for any of their shortcomings in life. We all have them and don’t need to be made to feel worse about them. Calling someone “An alky” is completely uncalled for and it seems with your comeback here, you have more derogatory thing to say. We are here to encourage, not demean. If you want to continue in the forum discussions, great! But I suggest you read the forum rules. Here’s one I pasted for you====>The following activities will not be tolerated in the forums or private messaging: Aggressive behavior. Debate the idea, don’t attack the poster.


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Originally Posted by Emilymcbabe
I was gonna talk more but I have a feeling it won’t be well received sorry guys

It’s easy. Respect other people and their differences of opinion in the same way you would like your opinion respected. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing but making personal judgements and calling people names is unacceptable. Being tactful in your responses while adding a bit of sugar helps the medicine go down a lot better.

Keep in mind that women and men are different when it comes to sexual attraction. Men are attracted visually while women are more attracted physically. Knowing the basic nature of sexual attraction helps you understand where a person is coming from and how best to communicate with them.


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Originally Posted by Emilymcbabe

I was gonna talk more but I have a feeling it won’t be well received sorry guys

Hi Emily,

Its always great to get a woman’s perspective on things. I hope you will keep posting in the future. You just have to be mindful not to make misguided assumptions.


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Great post, really helps put things in perspective. You can do all the PE in the world but it doesn’t matter if you’re a slave to porn.


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Originally Posted by JelqRick
Great post, really helps put things in perspective. You can do all the PE in the world but it doesn’t matter if you’re a slave to porn.

This would be accurate if things were that basic. Unfortunately though, we are dealing with the real world, and everyone situation is different.


Problem solving with fire.

Have completed 8 days no porn and masturbation so woo! Thought I’d share.

Still having trouble getting a nice hard erection anytime and my sex drive isn’t up where it normally is yet though the last 2 nights while I’ve been laying in bed just thinking in a non sexual manner about a girl I like I got a nice big erection! I even thought I looked a lot bigger than usual.

During my PE session tonight for the first time since stopping the porn I was able to gain an erection and regulate it during the session so progress is happening, just have to keep at it!

Originally Posted by Fornestruct
This would be accurate if things were that basic. Unfortunately though, we are dealing with the real world, and everyone situation is different.

Sometimes life is really that simple . If you wanted to go to a ti or chief keef concert but you know you have to take a gun, maybe you shouldn’t be going to that concert. Same thing applies here

I had been having trouble with low EQ, which was one of the reasons I started PE last summer. I took some Viagra, and the erections were so much better that I felt ~something~ has to be wrong.

I’ve been sexually frustrated in my marriage for a couple of years. So guess where I turned — porn. My wife didn’t care, and doesn’t, so long as I don’t bother her with it, and it sort of turns her on, but not enough for her to really get hip-twitchy over it. She caught me a few times, no big deal, but I think there were several effects here happening at once.

First effect: Time-suck. It made me horny to think about it, and all I needed was some free time. Then, when I didn’t have ~free~ time, I made time, and sometimes that wasn’t the best time.

Second effect: Compulsiveness. I felt an impulse to jerk off to porn, right now, stop all activity I gotta rub one out. Really, if you feel a compulsive urge to do ANYTHING, it is an addiction and needs to be metered. Drinking, smoking, eating, coffee etc are all things we do compulsively, without forethought.

Third effect: Obsessive thoughts. It wanders around in your head for a while afterward. It’s a bit like drinking. It takes a while to ejaculate the images out of your brain — nothing premature about this one, it will take hours and days to drip out.

Fourth effect: Loss of self-respect. I felt like a turd, because let’s face it, jerking off to porn is not the most noble of activities, especially if it’s abused.

Fifth effect: Loss of respect. While she didn’t say it outright, I do believe my wife lost some respect for me. They won’t admit it, but even if they don’t want to have sex with you (I believe mine is still a bit depressed), your woman doesn’t want you thinking about or lusting after other women. So it probably pushed her further away than she already was.

Sixth effect: Physical dependency. As many of us have observed with our own willies, you begin to depend on the rush to get going. Then your erections become ED, and sex may suffer. I never suffered sex, because we don’t have sex very often, but my nocturnal and morning erections were pretty much non-existent.

I cut out porn back in the fall. I forget what month, September or October. I’ve had a couple of relapses, and the other day I tried it, but it has genuinely become uninteresting. It’s like missing a season of some gooffy sitcom. You lose your place and never can get back into it. The other day was a very lame orgasm. I had to make up for it later by using my brain, and that was a much better finishing.

I have gained some self-respect. I proved I was committed enough to quit, and I did. You can look back on these things when you face more challenging bad habits, and say, I quit porn! I know how to change things. I can do this, just follow these simple steps. You just retrace your path, see, and cut out another bad habit.

I have more time. No doubt about it. I have more time.

I have more energy. I’m not masturbating as often, which generates a healthy dose of sexual tension, which creates life energy in a male.

As others have stated, I purged some unhealthy thoughts from my head. I see things clearer, now, especially women — and they look way better.

And so on. In all, quitting has been overwhelmingly positive for me mentally and physically, has freed up more time to do other things, and has earned me a great deal of self-respect, which will eventually filter into gaining more respect from my wife.

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Originally Posted by JelqRick
Great post, really helps put things in perspective. You can do all the PE in the world but it doesn’t matter if you’re a slave to porn.

Nothing matters if you’re a slave to anything.

PE is relevant but even if I never did PE, porn can be just as toxic. My perspective is the effect of porn on my life, not just missed or botched PE sessions.


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