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Originally Posted by Steelfire
Crazy brutal girth exercises you name there! I thought I’ve gone hard at my unit but it seems not ;) .

I understand what you say but I don’t even understand how to reach my length goal. I tried that for years and after I gained the first like 1.3”, it seems more or less impossible to gain more (yes I got the thickening corda thing). Maybe if I try something really hard for my length and see how it comes out.


You can always try hanging, but you will have to buy a bib. May be go to Monkeybar’s site and see what he has for sale. I tried hanging before I came to Thunderss and I injured my unit and I vowed never to hang again. Really, if you put your mind to it and really believe in what you are doing, you will see success and that is with anything you do in life. Things in life don’t come easy, it takes work.

You got to change up your routine, sets and exercises. You should change up your intensity and make sure your consistent and you don’t cheat your routine each day. Make sure you get some real exercise as well and try to drink plenty of water.


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Hang that’s it. You’ll gain. Be careful and the rest will be history :)

Originally Posted by epic777

Hang that’s it. You’ll gain. Be careful and the rest will be history :)

No that’s not it. You have to put together a good set of exercises that fits you. Hanging will not just do it, you need a good routine. Like thefusionhead posted you have to change up your routine, sets and exercises, because if you don’t, your penis will learn your routine and stop gaining. Muscles do the same thing to body builders. Consistency is the key to all of this. We were just trying to throw out some ideas of what the poster of this thread can think about

I tried to hang today with what I got and I think it worked pretty well. I used a wrap I have cut from a think mouse pad, put it just above the glans, use one of the sea clamps and attached a flexible tab (is that the right word? I’, Swedish ;) ), hung two weights on it and used the hook of the end of the tab to hook it back on the clamp. The only disadvantage I saw was that I had to clamp off pretty hard which made my glans discolour (like it does when I do normal clamping).


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

Originally Posted by Steelfire

I tried to hang today with what I got and I think it worked pretty well. I used a wrap I have cut from a think mouse pad, put it just above the glans, use one of the sea clamps and attached a flexible tab (is that the right word? I’, Swedish ;) ), hung two weights on it and used the hook of the end of the tab to hook it back on the clamp. The only disadvantage I saw was that I had to clamp off pretty hard which made my glans discolour (like it does when I do normal clamping).

Start slow. In my experience, hanging will cause discoloration faster then clamping will. Take slow and ease the weight on slowly.

Steel, I don’t know all of the specifics of the history of your PE routines but, based on what you’ve said, I suspect that you haven’t worked hard and long enough (no size pun intended). I got stuck in a similar rut where I plateaued for way too long and lost more than 8 months to silly underpowered and unfocused routines. Stick with just length for at least 6 months. Start hanging: build up to at least 10 hours a week using enough weight to generate enough fatigue that you have to lower your weight. Once you’ve made good length gains, cement them by continuing your routine (with no changes) for a month after your gains have stopped. Then, switch to girth work. The girth routine you mentioned doesn’t sound at all extreme so long as you’re conditioned and you build up to it (e.g. add one 10 minute clamp session each week or two). Again, cement by continuing your routine for a month after gains have stopped. And you MUST warm up properly: 5-10 minutes of rice sock, hot towel or similar before starting; and you might consider using an IR heating lamp to keep you warm throughout the routine.

As for the question of permanence of gains, based on what vets have posted here, I think that gains are semi-permenant: once cemented, you will keep some of your gains forever with no maintenance, but keeping all of your gains will require a light maintenance program — something like the newbie routine a couple times a week would probably be more than enough.


Starting (May 2010): BPEL:6" EG: 4 7/8". Current (April 2011): BPEL: 6 3/4" EG: 5 1/4".

Short Term Goal: BPEL: 7" EG: 5.25" Long Term Goal: When my wife makes me stop or 8"x6" (whichever comes first)

Two more things that I forgot to mention in my previous post…

First, get or make a real hanger. What you describe using sounds dangerous and uncomfortable. Dangerous is an obvious no-no is PE; uncomfortable means that you’ll never be able to hang heavy or long enough to make gains.

Second, I’m coming to question the accepted wisdom of deconditioning breaks. I’ve taken two decon breaks: one was 6 weeks long and the other was a full two months. I took both breaks after long plateaus as is generally recommended. In both cases, when I returned to PE after the break I saw no changes — the breaks did nothing to help bust through my plateau. I eventually broke the plateaus by changing my routine (in one case I switched from a hanging-based routine to a clamping-based routine, and in the other case I did the opposite) and by increasing intensity. I may be totally wrong about this, but I’ve decided to test an approach with no decon breaks. My plan is to use a routine, escalating intensity as needed, until gains become slow; continue for another month or so to cement; then, switch to a totally different routine. When I plateau on length, I’ll switch to girth; when I plateau on girth, I’ll switch to length. I’m just beginning this approach, so I can’t say if it will work yet, but I thought I’d share my thoughts and experiences on this as this approach may work for you.


Starting (May 2010): BPEL:6" EG: 4 7/8". Current (April 2011): BPEL: 6 3/4" EG: 5 1/4".

Short Term Goal: BPEL: 7" EG: 5.25" Long Term Goal: When my wife makes me stop or 8"x6" (whichever comes first)

Originally Posted by tntjockey

Start slow. In my experience, hanging will cause discoloration faster then clamping will. Take slow and ease the weight on slowly.

I will try…but I am rather impatient. Can a too fast approach cause any problems with length gains or only injuries and discoloration?


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

rooterstretch: I will probably do only length for the rest of this year and that will be hanging. Perhaps I should get a proper device but it actually feels like the one I have constructed works. Hanged 4 times now, 15 minutes each session and I don’t feel comforted or any pain.


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

Originally Posted by Steelfire
I will try…but I am rather impatient. Can a too fast approach cause any problems with length gains or only injuries and discoloration?


A too fast approach can cause all sorts of problems. This is your dick we are posting about. Dude what the fuck are you thinking? The over night bean stalk will not happen. Patience dude, like roosterstretch posted you need to build up. Tell you what, start hanging and use as much weight you THINK you can handle I bet your dick will be black as hec the next morning and it will hurt. Forget hard-ons for weeks, AND it will stay black or very dark. It happened to me, fortunately I am married and she helped me PE, but I am light skinned with a dark dick.
Look Steelfire everything we do here is dangerous to our unit and to our mentality, but you have to take the approach as an athlete, get yourself conditioned before the try outs, AND give those a shot, but remember, those are just try outs. You will know when you are ready to try different things, just be ready to those exercises.

Originally Posted by Steelfire
I will try…but I am rather impatient. Can a too fast approach cause any problems with length gains or only injuries and discoloration?


Steelfire, I have posted what I think that will help, but I will not post to this thread any longer. Do what ever you to do to be satisfied, but you better be careful. Oh by the way, too much trauma will stop gains and never start gains ever. So why are you so impatient? are you trying to meet a deadline. Later dude…….

My view on impatience is if I don’t see gains after 2-3 month of hanging, I will be very disappointed. Also, as I said before, I do not easily hurt myself and in my 3 years PE career, nothing really problematic has ever happened.

I am light skinned with a light skinned dick (typical blond Swede I suppose) but never got any permanent discoloration after my, in total, 9-10 months clamping. It goes very dark during each session but it never stays on for more than 30 minutes after I am done.

So with all this in my mind, my unit seem to stand a bit more hard on PE than most people.

I have now done almost 1 week of hanging, 15 minutes sessions and one per day (one day I did it twice) and I hang with 3,25 kg (6,5 lbs) and have no problems but from a tiny scratching feeling every now and then. Morning wood has gone down a bit but I have no erection problems at all and boned my wife twice this week and it feels normal. Still I thank you for all your warnings but most for all of the good tips I got from you and other people. Let’s see if I got any results in 2-3 months! :)


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

2 sets 15 min hanging is not enough to produce gains. the conclusion in this forum is that you should spend 10 hours a week hanging to gain. sure, some need less and some need more but 1 or 2 sets a day is most likely just a waste of time unless you are a newbie. go to the hanger forum and read everything you can to educate yourself.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches) -- Focus Your PE and Gain! TGC Theory --

12.17.2008: BPEL: 20,1 cm (7,9 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

Originally Posted by wurst

2 sets 15 min hanging is not enough to produce gains. the conclusion in this forum is that you should spend 10 hours a week hanging to gain. sure, some need less and some need more but 1 or 2 sets a day is most likely just a waste of time unless you are a newbie. go to the hanger forum and read everything you can to educate yourself.

Point take, I will.


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

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