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Penis Size: The True Average

Originally Posted by Belli Devs
Just for fun, let’s calculate the probability of 7 and 6.5 being the biggest dicks she saw using www.howlongismyschlong.com data. 6.5” would be 81.7th percentile and 7” would be 93.4th percentile. The probability to see someone your size or bigger with 9 partners is 1-(0.817)^9=83%. If we forget about you being 6.5” and just look at her previous partners, the probability of her having seen a penis of at least 7” is 1-0.066^8=42%.

So what that says is it’s really not that surprising she saw a 7” if she slept with 8 previous guys and that it would actually be surprising if she had not had someone your size in 9 partners. And since 5” is on the other side of the spectrum at 18.2th percentile, it would also have been surprising if she had not seen at least one guy 5” or smaller.

Sorry if it is obvious and I am missing it…but the 42% seems off/I don’t get the same numbers when I try to recreate it.


Current: BPEL 7.9"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.5"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.4"

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Realistic Goal: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" EG 5.5" | Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75" | Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"

Originally Posted by Phoenix7672
Sorry if it is obvious and I am missing it…but the 42% seems off/I don’t get the same numbers when I try to recreate it.

Right, I got it wrong at first and forgot to change what I wrote. It is 42%, but the formula is 1-0.934^8. The formula I had written gave the probability of a girl sleeping with 8 guys and that not all of them be 7 inches or more. Which is virtually 100%.


10/05/14 >> 7.7x5.8 (start stats on 10/05/14) / Short term goal : 8x6 (achieved on 14/06/14 and 23/04/14 respectively)

Mid term goal : 8.5x6.5

Long term goal : 9x7

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
I didn’t do any math, so it’s not off. It’s just the TP data set. Worth a look for some counter-perspective to all the studies in this thread.
Penis Enlargement Statistics Site

I just downloaded the PE statistics data set.

I deleted every record under 4 inches in length, and every record over 8.5. Methodology: there are 200 plus 8.5” penises out of much less than 18,000 individuals (multiple records) in the data set — that equals an 8.5”+ penis out of every 100 males which we know is not representative.

I am now deleting duplicate entries from the same user — keeping the earliest — to show STARTING SIZE.

I will report the Mean and SD


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

Originally Posted by Belli Devs
Right, I got it wrong at first and forgot to change what I wrote. It is 42%, but the formula is 1-0.934^8. The formula I had written gave the probability of a girl sleeping with 8 guys and that not all of them be 7 inches or more. Which is virtually 100%.

Ok that makes more sense. I’ve been plugging my own numbers in with a girl who has theoretically been with between 5-20 guys just to see where I land.


Current: BPEL 7.9"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.5"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.4"

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Realistic Goal: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" EG 5.5" | Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75" | Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"

Originally Posted by kdong
I just downloaded the PE statistics data set.

I deleted every record under 4 inches in length, and every record over 8.5. Methodology: there are 200 plus 8.5” penises out of much less than 18,000 individuals (multiple records) in the data set — that equals an 8.5”+ penis out of every 100 males which we know is not representative.

I am now deleting duplicate entries from the same user — keeping the earliest — to show STARTING SIZE.

I will report the Mean and SD

It can be addictive going through that data set, and it’s all been done before in various threads over the years. My favorite one is in my signature. You can get starting and ending sizes by sorting by name and date, and then using the ‘remove duplicates’ tool in excel.

It paints a bigger picture than most studies here. And it is just a slightly different styled study itself, so it needs to be taken with a grain of salt like all of these. But it definitely has the benefit of using the same data collection methods that we use as PE’ers.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" volume 7.3 ci ////// Now 7.4" x 4.9" volume 14.1 ci

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon

It paints a bigger picture than most studies here. And it is just a slightly different styled study itself, so it needs to be taken with a grain of salt like all of these. But it definitely has the benefit of using the same data collection methods that we use as PE’ers.

The largest metadata study containing14,000 measurements of BPFSL, which is more unique records than the TP data set, taken by medical professionals, shows a Mean BPFSL of 5.21” and a +3SD BPFSL of 7.44”

Furthermore, Out of 5366 records in the TP data set that are complete (no zeros), and don’t contain ridiculous values (7 inch EL, 1 inch Flaccid) — 247 are longer than 8” That is 5%. And 1.5% are longer than 8.25”

Obviously, that is nowhere near reality, and casts significant doubt upon the confidence in the use of the data set to be representative of penis size.


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

There are some good level headed discussions of the strengths and weaknesses of the TP data set elsewhere. It’s looking like that’s not going to happen here. Nevertheless, anyone comparing their own self-measured PE stats to studies done in a variety of medical settings would be wise to take the size database and this difference in data collection methods into consideration while making that comparison.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" volume 7.3 ci ////// Now 7.4" x 4.9" volume 14.1 ci

Hi, First Post

So, making my first post I noticed my screen name is already “slang” as .2BigAlready. :D
I guess they will accept it, it was OK for registration.

I started my PE life at around 23 years old or so, I was right around 8” BP and I’m thinking 5.5” EG.
But what got me started was I saw a few porno mags at work, (I never was into that, so I had no idea about fakes!)
And I felt like I was SMALL! Imagine That! :D So I started Jelquing and Pumping, made my own tube and got the
"Puffed up fluid gains” as you all have probably noticed. I pumped mainly, jelqued a little. Actually, I did not even know
About Jelqs at all, it just kinda came naturally, but I did very little. Just enough to get “up” for the pump.
Kinda did it off and on until I was at work one day, 1990, and a friend of mine was in the bathroom stall and I went
To the “big boy” piss trough. It’s like an open tub to pee in, and no walls, He came out of the stall and I was there
With a handful, taking a leak, He actually told our mutual friends.. Word gets around, stories grow, etc.
So I figured I had better just keep quiet, and for the most part I did. Then in ‘98, I was feeling like I was getting OLD!
(35-ish LOL!) I started looking for nutritional help, but all I could find online was PE stuff. So LATER, I joined a place called
“Big Al’s ‘For Men Only’” if memory serves me right. I was just on the free BBS and doing well, so Big Al gave me
A free membership. Then I really started doing well, this was around 2002 or so. I was really doing well, not watching
The length so much, but EG was getting well over 6” at this time! I was seeing 10.25” Stretched Flaccid, and it was
Seemingly doing at least that hard. I used to go by BigBob10x8 but 8” girth was never obtained except maybe once
I got close to it. It was with clamping, Extenze and a cocktail of supplements, and my T levels had t be pretty high.
More on T levels later, I actually got a blood test ;)
The EG was so fat I could not get my hand around it, and I had to tear off the plumbing coupler I used with the hose clamp!
In retrospect, I wish I had left it on, it took quite a while for the “stretching” to go down, back near the 6.5” range! It was like that
For a few years, I believe it is still over 6” EG but I have not measured lately. Could be under 6” but we shall see.
Extenze does the girth a LOT of good, and helps with length somewhat, IMO. I really wish I had left that fitting on there, but
I was a bit worried it would be too big for much of anything. I did have a (pardon my references) “street babe” (whore)
Who had a full set of false teeth, luckily, able to give me head, and it was right after I removed the clamp and sleeve.
She was completely full in her mouth, but fortunately I was quick, it was mighty sensitive! Thinking maybe 5 minutes or less.

T Levels: I actually had that checked, and the nominal range is 270 to 1070 ng/dl but mine read at 1179, or over 100 points above
The normal top of the range! I was still pretty much full sized at this time, with minimal PE Maintenance, but it seems like the T level
Was maybe a bit lower than it had been. I need tested again, to see exactly where I am. I’m thinking around 1000 would be great,
For good growth with today’s improved PE methods! LENGTH and GIRTH go together when you get the T levels up, and my weight
Was down despite not really watching what I ate.

I could easily do the “Ron Jeremy Thing” wasn’t that called the hedgehog?

Hoping to get back to that level, and CEMENT the gains. If I would lose 20#, the “RJT” would be no trick.
Cool way to win bets, as well as the “$100 Bill Trick” or wrapping it length wise around the old member and
Not letting the ends tough :D No one ever doubted me, to actually bet on that one. Now it would be rough to win that bet!

OK, start the BS calling and all that, but I do hope to get close to where I was, and I need new measurements
Now, anyway. Hoping to add pics and I will AVOID making it look like tricks and fakes. I never did fake it,
I did win a contest on Yahoo Groups back around just before my “peak” (10.25” stretched. 6”+ EG at the time)
Contest was called “Cock of the Walk” hosted by a big-breasted Texas Gal who was a strip club manager :D
I saw enough real-life pics that she had to be real.
I never really did get a “peak” number except I remember 6.5” EG after it settled in, after that clamping session above.
Really wish I had not removed that ring :(

I’ve been doing a partial MEM routine in the shower, seems to work WELL!

OK, 2B OUT!

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
and my T levels had t be pretty high.
More on T levels later, I actually got a blood test ;)

T Levels: I actually had that checked, and the nominal range is 270 to 1070 ng/dl but mine read at 1179, or over 100 points above
The normal top of the range! I was still pretty much full sized at this time, with minimal PE Maintenance, but it seems like the T level
Was maybe a bit lower than it had been. I need tested again, to see exactly where I am. I’m thinking around 1000 would be great,
For good growth with today’s improved PE methods! LENGTH and GIRTH go together when you get the T levels up, and my weight

Testosterone levels have nothing to do with penis growth

EXCEPT DURING PUBERTY


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

Originally Posted by kdong
Testosterone levels have nothing to do with penis growth

EXCEPT DURING PUBERTY

Well, for a while I had Andro-gel and it seemed to help, but I just used it in small amounts on the glans.
Really seemed to shorten the time I had spotting from over working it.
Plus, my experience seems to indicate otherwise. But I was using a
Wide variety of natural supplements. Ca’t even remember them all!

I also forgot to add that I used the “Biker’s Passive Stretch” for about a year solid, every day, almost
Without fail. Longer than that, but with less frequency. It was too big to hide well, when it’s knocking
Around almost down to the knee. Next device I am going to make is a heavy weighted
Tungsten Clamp device, another reason I am here to gather ideas. PE has come a
LONG WAY since I was heavy into it. Especially the info sharing! TP is a great
Resource! I did get the “Hot Peppers for PE” idea here, a long time ago, when
Enrollment was not always open. It’s been a few years AFAIK.

Originally Posted by kdong
Testosterone levels have nothing to do with penis growth

EXCEPT DURING PUBERTY

So could taking testosterone booster boost penis size during puberty


Starting 4/15/15 7.3 BPEL and 4.9 MEG

Super lazy and inconsistent :(

You are asking for a friend of yours, right Nakurami?

Higher testosterone levels can speed up the penis growth, but the final size will probably be the same. It could even be shorter, not enough data to know.

Testosterone boosters are unlikely to boost anything.

Originally Posted by marinera
You are asking for a friend of yours, right Nakurami?

Higher testosterone levels can speed up the penis growth, but the final size will probably be the same. It could even be shorter, not enough data to know.

Testosterone boosters are unlikely to boost anything.

Asking for myself haha, late in puberty. Ok that makes sense. The guys with the beards who are all filled out probably are adult size while others steadily grow. I think I’m still growing naturally.


Starting 4/15/15 7.3 BPEL and 4.9 MEG

Super lazy and inconsistent :(

How old are you? Penis can still grow after you reach 20 years old.

I’ve been on testosterone replacement therapy for years now. It has not made a significant difference in my size. The positives are more random erections and great night wood. Size comes from putting in the hours of work.


Started 7.75x5.75

Currently: 9.75bpX6.75eg My Picture Thread

Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

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