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Penis Size: The True Average

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Originally Posted by confidence need
8” seems to be the average hand size for most men, which I think puts them in the 7” category, sorry to ask this but do you have any pictures as proof? Sorry again but it would make me feel much better knowing I’m not smaller than 90 percent of the rest of the males out there.

No pictures mate, sorry.

Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
You keep saying “seems to be” or “women have to see” and refute pretty much every study about penis size ever conducted based on a suspicion that average hand size is 8” and that this correlates to penis size.

When, if average hand size is 8”, the medium male glove size would be much larger and I wouldn’t have to buy 2X gloves. And if penis size correlated to hand size I’d have started 2” bigger than I did before PE. Minimum, given I have an 8.25” hand.

You postulate claims without data regarding what promiscuous women see. What average hand size for men is. Also what average penis size without a single piece of proof other than paranoia of yourself falling short to fulfill your self-fulfilling prophecy about your own percieved inadequacy.

You’re not being objective or reasonable. And if you hold your beliefs to be true, no amount of us telling you otherwise will change them. But look at them for what they are.

Opinions of a man convinced he falls short looking for the means to justify it. No data available in the last 50 years or more supports any of what you’ve said.

I know I know, look what it came down for me to do, I’m on a forum asking for dick pic’s to make me feel better, I’m not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but still. You guys might be desensitize to it but if you really think about it, it’s really fucked up what I’m doing. To bad you didn’t have any befor and after pic’s would of completely shut me down on this and make me feel better lol.

But in my life experiences it seems like this is the truth, it’s what I notice through out life, I actually ignored alot of it for mental health too. And for real guys I want to believe you all so much.

Our job is not to convince you. Our goal is to give you the tools to safely increase the size of your penis.

The best proof is when you do the routines yourself and grow. How about starting the newbie routine? Report back with your findings.

Started 7.75x5.75

Currently: 9.75bpX6.75eg My Picture Thread

Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

Originally Posted by confidence need
I know I know, look what it came down for me to do, I’m on a forum asking for dick pic’s to make me feel better, I’m not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but still. You guys might be desensitize to it but if you really think about it, it’s really fucked up what I’m doing. To bad you didn’t have any befor and after pic’s would of completely shut me down on this and make me feel better lol.

But in my life experiences it seems like this is the truth, it’s what I notice through out life, I actually ignored alot of it for mental health too. And for real guys I want to believe you all so much.

It isn’t ‘too bad I don’t have any before and after pics’ as you will believe what you will, regardless of how many pics you see on this site. My pic thread is in my signature and so far has pages of different things I’ve tried and measurements I’ve done. However, it has nothing to do with your reason for being here or posting on this thread. All of that is on you and a series of personal choices.

What you are doing we’ve all seen countless times before. What effect it has had on your mental health is your business not ours and it isn’t our job to judge how fucked up any of those things are. In essence you have two choices:

1. Bemoan your lot in life and the penis you started with.
2. Start doing PE and change your penis and life for the better with a ‘can-do’ attitude.

I’d say you’ve done a fair amount of the first one. I’d say it’s time to give the second a try.

Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

I was just venting about the topic of this post, not taking anything out on any of you

I’m on break for now to regain sensitivity but I think I was on the way for gains, NBPEL went to 6 3/4 but BPEL was staying at 7.5, that was for a little more than a month of work

Originally Posted by confidence need
I was just venting about the topic of this post, not taking anything out on any of you

I’m on break for now to regain sensitivity but I think I was on the way for gains, NBPEL went to 6 3/4 but BPEL was staying at 7.5, that was for a little more than a month of work

Bollonsky?

Originally Posted by confidence need
I was just venting about the topic of this post, not taking anything out on any of you

I’m on break for now to regain sensitivity but I think I was on the way for gains, NBPEL went to 6 3/4 but BPEL was staying at 7.5, that was for a little more than a month of work

So are you 6.5 or 7.5? Sorry I’m a bit confused.
7.5 is well above average. It’s actually big by most standards.

I don’t understand what you are squabbling over. Is it a half inch in length? If that is the case just tell people you’re 8 inches until you actually get there.

The half inch will really only make a difference to you. I can almost guarantee no one else will notice.

Sorry my BPFSL was 7.5” and BPEL is around 7 1/4” my NBPEL is 6.5 this measurement fluctuates it seems not as accurate as the BPs

Originally Posted by confidence need
Sorry my BPFSL was 7.5” and BPEL is around 7 1/4” my NBPEL is 6.5 this measurement fluctuates it seems not as accurate as the BPs

Yes NBPEL is very problematic, sometimes you do a little press, sometimes you don’t press at all and all deliver a different measurement.

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
Yes NBPEL is very problematic, sometimes you do a little press, sometimes you don’t press at all and all deliver a different measurement.

Do the thing that is most consistent to measure.

I find bone pressed most accurate over time.

Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Many men here want to know the size of the average human penis. The aim of this post will be to provide an objective answer. A PubMed search and some Googling turned up several studies in which the penis was measured by medical personnel. In the following list, I will report averages for erect and flaccid stretched measurements. For newbies unfamiliar with the acronyms, please see the glossary. When I do not indicate BP or NBP, this is because the study abstract failed to specify such.

Group 1: Studies specifically aimed at determining average penis size

Study 1 - 80 American men:
NBPEL (100% erection induced by drug injection) = 5.08". FSL = 4.88".
UPDATE (07/18/2005): It appears (from reading another source) that the 5.08" figure is non-bone pressed.

Study 2 - 300 men, "college-aged":
NBPEL = 5.88". EG (midshaft) = 4.97".

Study 3 - 3,300 Italian men, 17-19 years old:
FSL = 4.92".

Study 4 (added 01/02/2007 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 271 Jordanian men:
FSL = 5.31".

Study 5 (added 05/22/2007 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 1500 Iranian men, 20-40 years old:
FSL = 4.56".

Study 6 (added 03/11/2008 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 52 Greek men, 19-38 years old:
FSL = 4.80".

Study 7 (added 03/11/2008 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 301 Indian men:
FSL = 4.28".
A subset of 93 of these men were measured erect, and the average was 5.12".

Study 8 (added 03/03/2009) - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 84 Brazilian men, 18 years old:
BPFSL = 5.71".
The 90th percentile for BPFSL among these 18-year-old men was approximately 6.61".

Group 2: Studies in which average penis size was not the primary goal of investigation (Some guys have expressed concern that doctors fake data in penis-size studies in order to relieve men’s insecurities. The following studies should not be prone to this criticism.)

Study 9 - 55 Israeli men, 21-78 years old:
BPEL (100% erection induced by drug injection) = 5.35". EG (base) = 4.29". BPFSL = 4.92".

Study 10 - 111 "younger" (18-19 years old) and 32 "older" (40-68 years old, for whom 100% erection was induced by drug injection) German men:
BPEL (young men) = 5.70". BPEL (older men) = 5.58".
UPDATE (05/13/2007): The full text of the article specifies that these measurements were bone-pressed.

Study 11 - 104 British men, 17-84 years old:
FSL = 5.12".

Study 12 - 123 Korean men, "early 20s" in age:
BPFSL = 4.21". NBPFSL = 3.78".

Study 13 (added 05/27/2005 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 200 Turkish men, 20-22 years old:
NBPEL = 5.01".

Study 14 (added 05/13/2007 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 115 Nigerian men, 30-65 years old:
FSL = 5.30". Range: 2.95"-7.68".

Study 15 (added 02/23/2009 - not included in calculations or discussion below) - 100 American men who had had a prostatectomy (47-74 years old) and 130 who had not (47-74 years old), with erections induced by drug injection if needed:
BPEL (prostatectomy) = 6.06". BPEL (no surgery) = 5.98". EG (prostatectomy) = 4.65". EG (no surgery) = 4.57".

Out of these high-quality studies, four included a measurement of erect length, the statistic that most interests men at Thunder’s Place. Three of these four included direct injections of a drug into the penis to induce a 100% erection — so their numbers can’t be dismissed as too low due to measurement anxiety. The four studies reported average erect lengths ranging from 5.35" BPEL to 5.88" NBPEL (the latter number comes from college students on spring break in Cancun, who probably had small fat pads). For the three studies that did not include erect measurements, we can estimate that the erect figure would have been about 0.25" longer than the reported stretched flaccid length, judging from the differences in studies that included both FSL and EL. For these three additional studies, the average erect length can be inferred to range from 4.46" BPEL to 5.37" (might be NBP or BP).

Studies in which size is verified by a third party, therefore, have consistently turned up averages below those of self-report studies. For example, the famous Kinsey self-report survey found an average NBPEL of 6.16", while a Durex online survey showed an average of 6.4" NBPEL. In my opinion, to trust men’s anonymous self-reports over the data of seven objective medical studies demonstrates penis-size paranoia — something to which we are prone here. If we look at the objective data instead, the average erect penis length appears to be no greater than 5.5 - 6.5" BP — and may even be smaller.

Disclaimer: I am not trying to suggest that enormous penises do not exist. They do — and some men are born with them. But for those who were not born with a huge one, and who instead aim to build one through PE, I think it’s important to establish a reasonable standard of what "average" is, so that size-paranoia does not continue to haunt them even after they have reached a truly large size.

Boy this is an old thread but those girth measurements from “100% erection via injection” measurements will always be lower than shag the true measurement is.

If you’ve ever been injected you’ll notice only the CCs inflate. Nothing else. I suspect you should Add at least .3 inches to each of those girth measurements that were not natural erections.

Veins, plus the cs inflates. The injection drug doesn’t truly give a full erection justice.

I think most penis studies have been done on men who have had erectile dysfunction issues. Even a few months without getting nocturnal erections could lead to penis shrinkage.
Here below is a study on 2000 healthy Egyptian men who found an average penile stretched length of 13.84cm or 5.45 inches, with a standard deviation of 1.35cm. The biggest out of the 2000 men aged between 22-40 had a stretched length of 19cm or 7.5 inches. The smallest was 12cm so it appears a lot of men are centred around the average.

Penile length-somatometric parameters relationship in healthy Egyptian men

Originally Posted by confidence need
Sorry my BPFSL was 7.5” and BPEL is around 7 1/4” my NBPEL is 6.5 this measurement fluctuates it seems not as accurate as the BPs

My man-

I will start by saying my measurements
A little over 6.5 in BPEL, 5.5 in MSEG. My NBP is not much different due to my very lean body.

Even if you were below average (you are not) you would still need to learn how to use that thing STAT. Your confidence will grow as a result.

I have been with about 200 women (more if you count the ones I paid for. As an aside, I learned a whole lot from these encounters). Not a single woman has ever told me I was the biggest they had ever been with. Many have told me I was on the larger side. I don’t care if that is true. But I made sure I learned from every encounter and refined by hands, mouth, demeanor, and wordplay. I made sure my career was attractive to women. Due to my efforts in the gym and my diet, my body is like top 90th %ile. My confidence grew because I learned how to use ALL of my tools. Your penis is just one of many tools.

And even then I don’t expect to be the best they have ever been with. I just know that I’m the best version of me. That is all we can do. This is a forum about self improvement. Get started improving yourself. Draw strength from doing your best. Do not just sit around judging yourself and feeling hopeless. And go talk to a lot of women.

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I’m honestly bewildered by the people suggesting these studies are part of a grand estrogen induced conspiracy to wussify the modern man. Ironically, I actually believe that culture wise that is maybe true (to avoid men in the office acting like they’re in a Ranger platoon on its way to a strip club), but thinking scientists got together to explicitly create a false peer reviewed data driven research study in order to promote emasculating effects seems dubious.

People believing their anecdotal experiences over science is why people don’t believe in climate change, think the moon landing was faked, and the number of people now believing the Earth is flat, is happening. We become emotionally attached to an idea then hold on to it in the face of evidence to the contrary.

It seems the amalgamation comes in at 5-6” length and 4.5-5” girth and nothing about our personal experience in this locker room or that urinal invalidates actual, you know, research..

Having said that—I agree those Cancun dudes were probably drinking—but I think the fact 25% of the participants opted out when they realized the nurses were female tells us something right there and that the results could have skewed even lower than reported. That’s a suspicion, I don’t know that. I just doubt porn star guys are noping out of letting nurses see their junk.

Also, the comment about erection meds only filling the CC seems accurate—but how much difference could it make? 1/4”? A full 1/2” seems a pretty big difference.

I apologize if that came out combative, the current political climate in the country is such that any hint of “I don’t trust that fancy science stuff” gets me going😳

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