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Penis Enlargement Proof

Penis enlargement can be grouped into two main categories:

  • Natural penis enlargement (NPE)
  • Surgical penis enlargement

Natural penis enlargement is anything non-surgical and is anything but natural. Effective techniques include: stretching the connective ligaments to expose more shaft or stretching the shaft itself either manually or with a hanging device, expanding the shaft by increasing the internal pressure manually or with a constriction device or lowering the outer pressure with the aid of a vacuum device.

Surgical penis enlargement is improving all the time but is still experimental, at best. It mainly involves cutting the ligaments to expose more shaft or bulking the girth of the penis with fat injections or man-made tissue. The injection of fat has some long term issues (reabsorbtion being one). The cutting of ligaments normally requires hanging or extender usage post-surgery to aid gains. There are instances of this technique producing a shorter phallus.

The rest of this page deals with NPE. For discussions on surgical techniques, the forums provide direct experiences of those who have undergone surgery, both positive and negative.

The Scientific Case For Natural Penis Enlargement

It is often advantageous to wait for scientific studies to be conducted on a product or technique, for the relevant authorities to pass it as fit, and maybe a number of years in the field to guarantee it’s effectiveness, and long term stability and safety. Even when this path is followed, safety and efficacy are not assured: From Thalidomide to Cox Inhibitors and Asbestos to Sudan 1, there are regular scares which remind us that scientific study and regulation provides only a partial guarantee.

In today’s world we are used to being presented with a multitude of conflicting information, either relying on trusted sources to provide an unbiased summary or wading through the detail ourselves. The minimum requirements for trusting something often include at base some kind of scientific proof.

There is no independent scientific proof for Natural Penis Enlargement. To complicate matters, available information is often skewed or deliberately misleading, tainted by scam merchants.

The closest thing to properly conducted research is that conducted by Dr. Brian Richards in 1975, following the “Chartham Method”, which consisted of muscle exercises, warm wraps and vacuum pumping. This came to light when the vendors of the Chartham Method were sued for “obtaining money or property through the mails by means of false representations” by USPS, a case they lost.

Dr. Richards experiment lasted 3 months, consisted of a tiny random sample size of 64 of which 32 were a control. Of the 32 men involved pro-actively in the trial, 2 dropped out and 2 gained nothing. The remaining 28 gained between 0.94” and 1.4” inches in length and .55” and 1.2” in girth, a success rate of 87.5%.

If you compare this small experiment to the kind of research required to get a drug passed by the FDA, it is easy to see that these results are at best worthy of further research. Dr. Richards himself could not be sure of the permanence of the gains.

The comparison with the process required to pass a drug for market, even a potentially dangerous or useless one, also leads to the most obvious reason research is sparse. The amount of money required to run research of this kind is not inconsiderable, and the potential revenue is somewhere between tiny and non-existent. The money in penis enlargement is in the surgical field or the scams run by those pushing penis pills and patches.

Evidence That Penis Enlargement Works

Here’s where the good news starts, though it is mostly empirical in nature with theories based on other technologies or research outside the field.

This site has many thousands of members signed up to the forum. There are posts going back over 11 years from people who have tried penis enlargement and succeeded. These people come from all walks of life and many different countries around the world. Even medical people have gained and posted about their gains.

The downside of a forum is that of the people who join, there is no way to calculate a success rate. Only those who post can effectively be counted and it is hard to gauge whether people will post more if they are successful or if they fail. It is also impossible in many cases to test the veracity of claims made. There is at least one reported example of a person who tried for two years and gained nothing, then switched methods and gained an inch in length. There are also cases of people who have been frustrated with lack of gains and either pushed to the point of injury or given up.

There is also the issue of permanence. There are a few cases of people who have committed to PE, gained well and then stopped. These people have then lost a proportion of their gains. There are others who have lost little or nothing. Some of this maybe has to do with methods employed or cementing gains, some may have to do with lowered erection levels over time.

Penis enlargement is in much the same position as herbal remedies in many ways, good quality information can be hard to come by on the Internet in general. On the forum fads tend to gain a grip easily and proven methods can be ignored. The psychology is easy to understand, if someone claims you can gain faster and with less effort, a desire is encouraged and if you have the least bit of insecurity it will grow. Sometimes even the desire for something to be wonderful and revolutionary will encourage advocates and an idea with people behind it convinces more people.

There is a fair amount of experimentation, this filters through the forum for a period of years and, if it turns out to be useful, it ends up here in Penis Enlargement Cream or The Penis Enlargement Manual.

Injury is something that as a beginning PEer you have to watch for like a hawk and not fall into the trap of running before you can walk or pushing beyond the boundaries of anything that could be defined by the words safe and sensible. With PE comes risk and also reward and it is for you to guard against the risk, while maximizing the reward. Check the “Injury and Treatments” forum for more information. The vast majority of injuries reported are minor, and the major injuries are the result of techniques that are considered dangerous by the majority of PEers.

The Penis Enlargement Skeptic

Your first step as a penis enlargement skeptic should be to see if you can figure out the con here. Look around the site, check for advertisements, check for posts that look as if they are trying to hawk products to you, check for anything else you can think of.

You will find next to some members names the added title ‘Commercial Member’ and a section in the FAQ on what this means. You will also find people posting spam here and hoping to get away with it.

Once you’ve looked around this site with that attitude, take the same skepticism to any other Penis Enlargement site you visit. Commercial Penis Enlargement is extremely cut throat, with underhand tactics and guerrilla marketing continually attempting to lull you into useless products or paying for information which is available for free elsewhere.

What You Need For Penis Enlargement

Natural Penis Enlargement is not something you can buy, it’s something you need to work at. Other than buying some lubrication from your local pharmacy or sex shop, you do not need to spend any money. Most of us are time poor these days and have a fair amount of disposable income, the thought of a quick route to success with penis enlargement is incredibly enticing but there are no shortcuts. Surgery is not a guarantee of gaining or even retaining your original length.

If you choose to register here, you can access the exercise videos and the extra forums. If you get queasy about giving out your email address, or you work particularly well from text and don’t need hand holding, this is unnecessary. A little extra reading of the the resources available to guest users will suffice.

On the forum you will read about all manner of equipment. Some members have spent varying amounts of cash on PE devices or information. Some people will mix comments about their latest purchase with good reported gains. This does not mean that expensive equipment is helpful or even necessary.

Most devices are available in an easy make at home version, if not on Tom Hubbard’s site then elsewhere in the forum.


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Why is this under the “Penis Enlargement Cream” section?

EDIT: Never mind. I didn’t realize this new forum was devoted to “best of the best” posts :) This article certainly belongs here, and I’m surprised it hasn’t gathered more comments!


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The thing about permanence caught my eye. I have heard somewhere that inactive men can lose like 20% of their normal size by the time they are 50. Maybe some who have gained and lost size, not just temporary hang or bloat but like years after, are simply succumbing to the the natural shrinking. PE could also be used just to keep the shrinkage at bay.


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Very helpful, I hope more people read this, especially the skeptics.

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Of the 32 men involved pro-actively in the trial, 2 dropped out and 2 gained nothing. The remaining 28 gained between 0.94” and 1.4” inches in length and .55” and 1.2” in girth, a success rate of 87.5%.

I think that the 2 which dropped out should not be taken in to account in the success rate since they are not part of the sample that peformed penile exercises.

The gainers were 28 out of 30 making the success rate 93%


It takes time and devotion.

I was poking around the web and came across jelqing apps, interesting. Also, while doing that my search results included the Cosmopolitan mag. web page that featured women discussing, and debunking, jelqing as effective for penis enlargement. Such negativity never ceases to amaze me. They apparently aren’t aware of Thundersplace with plenty of evidence to the contrary.

I’m really surprised not one of those ladies penises got bigger when they tested jelqing.


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Originally Posted by bhcentral
I’m really surprised not one of those ladies penises got bigger when they tested jelqing.

*Mental image of a woman trying to jelq her clit.

Originally Posted by bhcentral
I’m really surprised not one of those ladies penises got bigger when they tested jelqing.

That’s hilarious! LMFAO!

The success of any program is related to the dedication and commitment to that program. How can one measure the quality of the jelq. Perhaps the guys who get good gains from jelqing ought to speak out and teach us on the quality of their jelqs.

Well I know from my own experience, I’ve never had penis gains until I started PEing. I’ve gained a 1/4” in length and .100 in girth. That occurred in about 3 months. I must admit though, I have not been as diligent since those gains. However, I am looking forward to starting up a new routine. I don’t need any further evidence that it works. But as they say, it’s what you put into it.

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

Well I know from my own experience, I’ve never had penis gains until I started PEing. I’ve gained a 1/4” in length and .100 in girth. That occurred in about 3 months. I must admit though, I have not been as diligent since those gains. However, I am looking forward to starting up a new routine. I don’t need any further evidence that it works. But as they say, it’s what you put into it.

The only problem is the amount of time one has to spend with Jelqing and stretching etc. I just don’t have all that time.

Originally Posted by BPTony
The only problem is the amount of time one has to spend with Jelqing and stretching etc. I just don’t have all that time.

Yes, I know what you mean BPTony. That is why I had to stop. But now my problem is procrastination, lol.

Procrastination of what??? I think to use some form of ADS or an extender will give gains without having to spend so much time in the bathroom. My problem is that when I begin jelqing in the bath I usually end up with an erection and get all horny and the wank off and that’s the end of the session. lol

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