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Originally Posted by BPTony
Procrastination of what???

Well, I mean I just can’t seem to make time to start a jelquing program again. I guess I’m not so concerned about any more increases. I have other interests in my life right now that I feel are more important. I mean my erect length is 6 1/4” and my girth is 5” but I’ve never had any complaints. So, I’ll continue with a program when gaining increases becomes important again.

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

Well, I mean I just can’t seem to make time to start a jelquing program again. I guess I’m not so concerned about any more increases. I have other interests in my life right now that I feel are more important. I mean my erect length is 6 1/4” and my girth is 5” but I’ve never had any complaints. So, I’ll continue with a program when gaining increases becomes important again.

Ok so its not really procrastination, rather putting it on the side for the time being. I agree that it is time consuming and life is kind of hectic and so for many of us there are more important things to get done. Your size is actually fine and besides it’s not how big you are that counts. The main thing is how you use it to pleasure your partner.

Thunder’s Place, I think you need to incorporate a like button for the bottom of people’s posts. Like Facebook. I find myself cracking up at some of these posts. Too funny. I expect royalties when you turn thunder’s place into social media for dudes growing their dicks.


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Originally Posted by BPTony
Procrastination of what??? I think to use some form of ADS or an extender will give gains without having to spend so much time in the bathroom. My problem is that when I begin jelqing in the bath I usually end up with an erection and get all horny and the wank off and that’s the end of the session. lol

(LOL) Maybe that’s why some of us older guys end up with such good results. We spend more of our time actually doing the PE, and less time wanking off.

Originally Posted by Dude151
The thing about permanence caught my eye. I have heard somewhere that inactive men can lose like 20% of their normal size by the time they are 50. Maybe some who have gained and lost size, not just temporary hang or bloat but like years after, are simply succumbing to the the natural shrinking. PE could also be used just to keep the shrinkage at bay.

I’ll be the guy who verifies this statement as truth. In 20 years time (41 years of age) I’ve lost approximately one inch in BPEL. That is natural length. I have never done any form of PE in my life until now.

Originally Posted by How lack

I’ll be the guy who verifies this statement as truth. In 20 years time (41 years of age) I’ve lost approximately one inch in BPEL. That is natural length. I have never done any form of PE in my life until now.

PE could probably quite easily help you regain your lost length and restore your penis to it’s former glory.

I’m also really surprised that not many have commented here, the post is from 2013 c’mon. The topic should be something to discuss I think.

Great post that every new visitor of this site should read. The most important thing I believe is the mention of lack of economic incentive to conduct research on the subject.


01/04/15 - BPEL: 7.30” MSEG: 5.10” BEG: 5.30”

03/08/15 - BPEL: 7.30” MSEG: 5.30” BEG: 5.50” (2 months on the newbie routine)

+ Harder erections, nicer orgasms, generally more flaccid hang and more elasticity. Now on a break to restart with a new routine.

Originally Posted by ManOfScience
Great post that every new visitor of this site should read. The most important thing I believe is the mention of lack of economic incentive to conduct research on the subject.

We just get on with it.

I think the economic incentive is to develop better pumps, stretchers, etc.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

People are not really interested in proofs. They are interested that no consistent work is required. People are lazy. All but me.

Originally Posted by a-unit
We just get on with it.

I think the economic incentive is to develop better pumps, stretchers, etc.

I believe those devices are too cheap and simple. People can easily manufacture them themselves, as many are doing now. Medicine would be something, but then it is not the type of penis enlargement we are talking about anymore.


01/04/15 - BPEL: 7.30” MSEG: 5.10” BEG: 5.30”

03/08/15 - BPEL: 7.30” MSEG: 5.30” BEG: 5.50” (2 months on the newbie routine)

+ Harder erections, nicer orgasms, generally more flaccid hang and more elasticity. Now on a break to restart with a new routine.

Originally Posted by ManOfScience
Great post that every new visitor of this site should read. The most important thing I believe is the mention of lack of economic incentive to conduct research on the subject.

If knowledge leaked out that diabetes could be cured with hard work and diligence would people do it? What would happen to the drug companies and the industry behind this problem if everyone was cured? If the technology existed for cold fusion and it was possible to make a functional free energy device using the items in your garage, what would happen to the oil industries, coal mines, etc? Neither of these big money industries would want this and neither would the Government. No money, no taxes.

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist but the same applies here as well. On the one hand you have lazy people who want to lose weight taking a pill while laying on the couch watching reruns of Oprah choking down on Supersized McDonalds grease sponges. If they wanted a bigger, stronger erection they would buy a penis cream. They don’t care about this knowledge because they will never work for it. The sexual improvement industry caters to them and there will always be a cash flow from those people. The other type of person is those who haven’t discovered PE yet but sincerely don’t mind working for self improvement. A lot of money is spent on sexual problems and inadequacies every year. That positive cash inflow would be seriously damaged if this knowledge was made readily available. If a conspiracy is a little far fetched, then consider this: Who would want to fund research that will only help 49% (guess as to how many men would work to get this) of the male population to achieve sexual enhancement using only his hands and a few things that can be built using items in his garage? Not much money to be made there and plenty to be lost. For this reason alone, you will never hear a doctor prescribe PE for erectile dysfunction or other problems. It can’t be bottled and patented.


Started: 01/01/2015 ~ BPEL: 7.2 inches. EG: 5.5 inches. [05/01/2015: BPEL: 7.6 X 5.5.] [08/06/2015: 7.75 X 5.5] Goal: Better EQ

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Originally Posted by How lack
I hate to be a conspiracy theorist but the same applies here as well.

Most conspiracy theorists don’t hate it at all. Least the ones that I know. So my guess is if you are into that lifestyle you don’t hate it either.

This is not meant as an attack in any way.

In my opinion regardless of cost and proffit, PE takes effort and that is where people fail. I am not talking effort for today. I am talking continuous and sustained effort.


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To clarify, I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I do believe money is a great motivator for many things and I doubt those who have or are making money off of the sale of sexual enhancement products are going to be very entheusiatic about something that might reduce their cash flow. I’ve seen how money works to get things done in politics so there isn’t much of a theory there. However, because PE requires a tremendous amount of work and commitment, I doubt there is much worry about it taking the place of pills or creams in the near future.


Started: 01/01/2015 ~ BPEL: 7.2 inches. EG: 5.5 inches. [05/01/2015: BPEL: 7.6 X 5.5.] [08/06/2015: 7.75 X 5.5] Goal: Better EQ

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Originally Posted by BPTony
The success of any program is related to the dedication and commitment to that program. How can one measure the quality of the jelq. Perhaps the guys who get good gains from jelqing ought to speak out and teach us on the quality of their jelqs.

Originally Posted by BPTony
The only problem is the amount of time one has to spend with Jelqing and stretching etc. I just don’t have all that time.

Okay, I am going to share my philosophy and theory to the way I believed that PEing worked for me and I will just explain the Jelq philosophy.
This is all very simple. PE, all it takes is one KEY thing with a several key bullets below. I will share this with you. I shared this with many but many want to read what they want to hear. This is my Philosophy and Theory of the way I operate. The key to all of this is having the right Mind Set. My wife and I came up with this when we first started my PE regiment. I also feel we made an Art and a Science of how we were going to pursue this. Here is what our Key with the categories underneath

Have the Right MIND SET is the main key that opens the other keys and they are:
o Dedication
o Consistency
o Focus
o Concentration
o Most importantly, To ‘Believe’ that everything you are doing during the exercise is working for you.

This was my jelq exercise.
You guys do not need to do that many jelqs. I have read of guys here doing anywhere from 200 to 300 jelqs. What a waist of time. If you do quality jelqs, you don’t have to do so many, simple as that. I did quality jelqs all the time and I am still 6.375 erect girth and I haven’t PE’d in years and have not lost any gains, although I wish I would, but that is another story.

Quality Jelqs! not Quantity Jelqs, Quality!

So do you guys want to know what a Quality Jelq is? I will explain. Some of the older vets do it this way as well. I always made my PE a study and to know what was going on during PEing. I learned focus and concentration during each exercise just knowing and feeling what exactly is going on; and what I am feeling and where I need work. I changed my mind set which meant dedication and consistency, and to believe everything I was doing during the exercise was working.

Quality jelqs are not about time, it is how you do them, and yes focus is key. I don’t jelq anymore or have PE’d in years, but here has been my observation reading many threads and posts of member’s jelq workouts. Many members try to see how many jelqs they can do in an hour and try to reach that same number the next time they resume their jelqing exercise. What they are failing to do is focus and concentrate if they are getting all they can from ONE jelq. This is what I mean, jelqing to fast from base to glands forces the blood to quickly go right back down to the base and as a result, the jelq isn’t fully finished, because of lack of pressure because of the speed of the jelq.
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This was what I consider a quality jelq. First of all, everybody has a preference as to what state of erection one should be, and that is entirely up to the person doing the exercise and how their unit is feeling. This is very important. I preferred my unit to be almost erect. I would do the o-ring grip around the base of my penis with my palm facing me not squeezing yet, pushing towards my pelvic bone as close as possible stretching the skin towards the bone as well. Tightly squeeze the grip and slowly slide the grip up my shaft to the glands, being aware of what was going on and what area need more work. I will get to that one in a bit. As I slowly reached my glands I held for a bit and quickly started the next jelq not to loose blood pressure and do the same paying attention to what area needs more work. Once you are accustomed to this way of jelqing you will know what area needs more work by the amount of pressure you feel in that area. You will feel pressure but maybe not as much pressure as you would feel in other areas of your penis. This is where you need more focus on the weaker areas. You will slide your tight grip slowly to that area and I mean slow and hold for a few seconds then continue the rest of the jelq slowly. You will feel pressure, but you will learn to ease up if necessary, because you can get the infamous red dots. When easing up, do not let too much pressure out but just enough to continue. Of course this going to hurt a bit, but so does clamping, pumping and hanging.

This all pretty simple and you will always be aware of what you are doing since the jelqs are a very tightly squeezed and slowly taken to the glands. As mentioned it is important to start out correctly. Place the o-ring grip around the base of penis, palm facing you not squeezing yet, pushing towards the pelvic bone as close as possible stretching the skin towards the bone as well. Tightly squeeze the grip and slowly slide the grip up the shaft to the glands. Lube works very well with this but not necessary, (I will get to this one in a bit). After 20 of these you will notice how swollen your shaft will be. This is not a race for time nor is it a competition of how many one can do in a certain amount of time. It is all about concentration and focus. If it takes a person 300 jelqs in an hour to get what I got with 20 in less than 10 minutes, then that is their problem. I just know that I am not fatigued nor is my unit when I consider that my unit has had enough for the day. Plain and simple. If I feel like 10 more fine, but I never over did it, and I was always aware of what needed work if at all. I didn’t waist any of my time, I treated jelqing like an art and a science. You can probably do 4 to 5 jelqs a minute. That is if you do not need work in different areas of your penis.

Let’s talk about lube. It is only my belief that dry jelqing can cause Turkey Neck, which means the scrotum starts to climb up the shaft of the penis. I recommend wet jelqing. If you use a lube, get a very good one, but this is what I used. I jelqed when I showered using hair conditioner as my lube. The way I saw it, if the conditioner didn’t give me dandruff then it should be okay on my penis.

This is what I consider a Quality Jelq. It worked for me. I hope this helps or gives some insight to what you may want to customize for yourself. Guys, PE is very simple. Not only did I reach my goal, but surpassed it by a long shot. 8.5 BPEL X 6.375 EG, haven’t PE’d in years.

This was just my Jelqing Technique using The Right Mind Set. I used The Right Mind Set on my other exercise as well. PEing does not have to take a lot of time.

I have seen many times the quality jelqs thing in your posts but I think that you should make a video or something to explain it better, also the jelq video in the site is very old and I don’t see many people follow this so I would like to see a video of your technique (dry jelqing if you can to see the amount of stretching in the base)!! If you have free time do it pls and send me a pm because I like jelqing and I want to try your technique!

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