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PE is just like Body Building

I really wish the PE-bodybuilding bro science posts would stop happening. Just because they have similarities does NOT mean you can apply BB principles to PE and vice-versa.

Not another one of these threads!

So much of what Thal said was spot on about sleep, diet, consistency, patience, etc. But you guys don’t understand that the penis is not a muscle. It doesn’t not respond to hypertrophy and the same protein synthesis and hormonal cycles. And whatever crap they’re spewing out about high protein diets and supplements, is still wrong. Look I’ll make it as painlessly simple as all possible. Stress to the penis through PE switches on a cycle of events that later results in small gains…. Just like with bodybuilding, you don’t gain from PE itself but from rest and recovery with repeated workouts. The one thing you need to keep under control here is inflammation which prevents recovery if it’s chronic. This means #1 not doing too much to begin with, #2 not PEing again before you’ve recovered, and #3 not further stressing your penis with more PE, sex, or masturbation than it can handle. The rest of the bro science about drinking whey, eating lots of protein, etc is just crap that TP has all heard before.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Originally Posted by Devotion9
Watch out for modern whey powder, it is filled with nasty byproducts bad for the brain and kidneys, So are artificial flavors. I don’t care if you believe me, I’m strong and cut and try to go Meditterranean on the diet, good overall for heart, brain, and penis and quite natural. (Use rice, hemp powder, or even egg whites. Less processing means no marketing campaign convincing you to buy brain damaging excitotoxins that are “micronized!”)

I have been all over the place in EQ. That’s a result of arginine, blood flow, and so many complicated things. But when I started consuming ginger, garlic, ginseng, ginko, maca, muira puiama, astralagus, sarspadilla, fo-ti, feverfew, fenugreek, hops strobule, cinnamon, licorice, linden, hawthorn, et cetera plus vitamins, a funny thing happened.

(Gong smashing.) My boners were shot, they are quite healthy now. I also committed to PC exercise and overall rock solid physical fitness.

My boners are bigger. I measure above 5 girth consistently, just last night I got a nice thick measure of circumference. And I started life nearly suicidal because of so-so, nothing to write home about girth. And a small flaccid. Now my dick is bigger soft or hard, Not from taking it easy, or monitering EQ. Obviously that has some place, but severe stress induces changes. My extender was painful sometimes, but i wear it now with more rods than a year ago.

That cock filling up my palm, that soothing sensation of loving life and my dick and expanding in mass? That was no trick, that was a whole ton of daily work. That is why my dick is bigger, not because of days off. Anyway its proven in all extender studies, more time means more stress and response, meaning bigger dick.

Seriously train your ass off if you want a dick that changes your life. Get to know it so you can recover properly, definitely a noble goal. But unfortunately more work equals more dick.

Consumer reports released information on different protein. With the exception of Muscle Milk and another brand (I don’t remember), most of the common brands like Optimum Nutrition were definitely safe. Heavy metal contamination was fairly low.

Second of all, take protein in conjunction with all of those herbs and see if the results are the same. You changed two variables, so you cannot determine if the protein made you worse, or the herbs make you better.

Originally Posted by TheGreatDivider
Not another one of these threads!

So much of what Thal said was spot on about sleep, diet, consistency, patience, etc. But you guys don’t understand that the penis is not a muscle. It doesn’t not respond to hypertrophy and the same protein synthesis and hormonal cycles. And whatever crap they’re spewing out about high protein diets and supplements, is still wrong. Look I’ll make it as painlessly simple as all possible. Stress to the penis through PE switches on a cycle of events that later results in small gains…. Just like with bodybuilding, you don’t gain from PE itself but from rest and recovery with repeated workouts. The one thing you need to keep under control here is inflammation which prevents recovery if it’s chronic. This means #1 not doing too much to begin with, #2 not PEing again before you’ve recovered, and #3 not further stressing your penis with more PE, sex, or masturbation than it can handle. The rest of the bro science about drinking whey, eating lots of protein, etc is just crap that TP has all heard before.

No where did I stat the penis was a muscle. And I don’t know where you guys got that from or why everyone is so quick to point that out to me. But thank you all for reminding why I stopped coming to this site. I’m out. Goodluck guys.

Because you can’t deal with different opinions?

Originally Posted by thal
No where did I stat the penis was a muscle. And I don’t know where you guys got that from or why everyone is so quick to point that out to me. But thank you all for reminding why I stopped coming to this site. I’m out. Goodluck guys.


Yes you did!:D

Originally Posted by thal
Muscle and the tissue in the penis one and the same….


That’s fine leave, TP could do without another knuckle-headed newbie telling us all how he’s doing it right and we’re doing things wrong.

Take your bro science back to the bodybuilding boards where you can bump chests with the steroid jockeys who filled your head with this bunk in the first place.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Your beliefs are broscience as much as Thal’ ones, TGD; Thal has journed way earlier than you so apparently he is not a newbie. Now let me ask to some ENS if your post is as rude as it looks to me and I’ll be back.

Originally Posted by _Phoenix_

So what gains have you had?

Not gains, Mr. Phoenix, not gains in BPEL. Working out improved my erections, and my fat pad shrunk. So I gained NBPEL from working out because of my fat disappearing slowly. Not only that, my self-esteem boosted dramatically. So my gains benefited more psychological than physical. I’m much more mentally healthy. :)


5.3" NBPEL.

BPEL 6.5-6.7" Goal: Anything!

Girth: 5" but getting bigger. ;)

Thal and TGD how about instead of arguing if either of you have any actual hard evidence ( ie links to studies or websites etc ) of the collagen remodelling process and how this applies to PE then please post it so
folks can discuss it properly or make up their own minds.

Isn’t that the whole point of a forum !

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Thal and TGD how about instead of arguing if either of you have any actual hard evidence ( ie links to studies or websites etc ) of the collagen remodelling process and how this applies to PE then please post it so
Folks can discuss it properly or make up their own minds.

Isn’t that the whole point of a forum !

The point of forums generally is to support products or services.

Arguements stem from improper application of assertions, mostly via ad hominem comments.

Let’s keep the personal attacks and derision of opinion down and return to trying make our dicks bigger and reporting the methods and results.

Please.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Ok actually that post wasn’t that bad. Still not good though.

Let me make clear: everyone’ opinion on here is pretty much ‘broscience’ - my own too. There isn’t anything like ‘scientific knowledge’ of PE. There are a few things though we know we can use to back up our opinions, without resorting on name calling.

The penis is very different from any muscle; to demonstrate this, just think that even in people who are starving the penis doesn’t become smaller, differently from muscles. So the protein intake is not going to have any influence on the size of your penis once you are grown. Under the same perspective, even heavy administration of exogenous androgens isn’t going to make your penis grow - your muscles, yes, your penis not; there could be an indirect effect on how strong your erections are, it can lead to some litte temporary increse in size, but basically we can say the effects are about zero.

Add to that what is limiting the size of your penis is the Tunica Albuginea, which is very, very thin (and is not a muscle anyway); TA weighs a few grams, so increasing its lenght say 20% in 6 months (which would be a huge increase) would require a ridicolously low amount of food intake. For the same reasons, I don’t think any supplements is going to have any effect on the size of your penis. The sole supplement you need is elbow grease.

There may be several methodologies to get results, like concerning muscles actually. Some cyclists have great legs in spite of trainning on a daily basis a lot of hours, quite different from bodybuilding basics, as well as gymnastics do and so on. By the way the first don’t eat big amounts of protein.

PE could be similar in this sense, since there are a lot of different routines and methodologies translated into gains (namely, constant-relatively-low-intensity stimulus in the face of higher intensity and higher rest; more is more vs less is more; Xenolith’s SPR vs no rest or whatever). One of them is possibly the most suitable one for a single person, even it might be possible to find the most suitable ones for everyone, but I think the main reason for discrepancies is that there are several ways to get results, though is often hard to find them.

Marinera’s point concerning our opinions is really great. I also enjoyed Thal’s explanation about his PE methodology and findings, I guess his regresive “2 on 2 off 1 on 2 off” routine is more or less compatible with sparky’s, Xenolith’s, MX’s and other kind of ‘less is more’ researcher members as he said.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Naked Tomato
Not gains, Mr. Phoenix, not gains in BPEL. Working out improved my erections, and my fat pad shrunk. So I gained NBPEL from working out because of my fat disappearing slowly. Not only that, my self-esteem boosted dramatically. So my gains benefited more psychological than physical. I’m much more mentally healthy. :)


I wasn’t talking to you, dumbass.

But congratulations! Keep it up. ;)

Agreed with Thal and also men who gain easily from bodybuilding can also gain easy from PE

Originally Posted by laky
Agreed with Thal and also men who gain easily from bodybuilding can also gain easy from PE

The two disciplines have nothing to do with each other. This statement is completely speculation and holds no water whatsoever.

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