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Pe Goin Mainstream

Nicely said groa

You stated things well, groa. Desire and motivation are what it takes to achieve. All worthwhile accomplishments take time and effort. It deffinitely adds to their value. I lift also, and every pound gained is a victory for me. I am one of those lifter’s that have a goal to only become a ripped middle weight. It is a size that I know will be best for me. Even amongst dedicated achievers, we have vast differences in ultimate goals, because they suit our desires better.

Many of my buddies know that I am in to PE. They all shy away from it because it is work to them. Most of us just want it bad enough. As most of you mentioned, the average guy is just not diligent enough.


Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.

I don’t worry about it going mainstream. It is really hard work and dedication. I do a 2 day on/1 day off routine that takes me a little over an hour at a time. I sure most people who start will stop after a month or so because they see how much time and effort it takes.

Just think of how many rowing machines, treadmills, etc. are right now acting as towel holders in peoples’ homes, instead of exercise machines.

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Originally posted by jGman

Just think of how many rowing machines, treadmills, etc. are right now acting as towel holders in peoples' homes, instead of exercise machines.

Exactly. PE is even less likely to get mainstream because it’s way more taboo than getting in shape. Plus it’s “common knowledge” that you cannot do anything to increase penis size (hopefully you catch my sarcasm).


"If you can conceive it, and you can believe it...then you can achieve it" What would twatteaser do? ---- Now known as 8-ball - *

Plus, there’s something markedly more embarassing about saying:

“I just came from pulling on my dick!” than saying “I just came from the gym!” (plus it might get misunderstood ;) )

Allright, here’s my point guys

I’m 33 and have heard about PE a couple of years ago. The way I was introduced was the internet. I’m a very skeptical person and purchased one of those PE programs off the net because I was so curious. The program was incredibly difficult to understand and I quickly gave up. It wasn’t till I started talking to a friend of mine who pumped and stretched who got good results. I’m also very curious, so I couldn’t seem to get enough information about PE and stumbled across this wonderful website. Back to my point, the more men that actually know that it’s possible the more that will try and succeed. There is alot of forums and free information out there, so all this is done with a better successbrate because there’s more men doin it.

The more men that know about it, the more men that will do it.

I don’t think that this will necessarily translate into a higher success rate, ie, a higher percent of guys that try succeeding. If anything I think that the % will drop, as more “wannabee’s” try it out half assed for a few weeks and then give up. I think that those of us that had to track this stuff down as “secret knowledge” have much greater motivation and self discipline. As PE becomes mainstream the number of guys doing it will increase, and the number of guys getting bigger dicks will increase, but I think the success rate curve will be sharply down sloping. Also, just like working out, their will be a saturation point. No matter how well known PE becomes only X number of guys will follow through on it.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

Snap out of it

GUYS GUYS GUYS,

Are we not forgetting the most important element of this whole deal? The Pussy? Yes PE mainstream would be great because the number of bitches in this world would go down drastically. Bitches are usually bitches because they don’t get good dick. If everyman knew about PE and the average moved up to 8 inches….(remember if it went mainstream many more young boys would be doing it which is an optimal time for growth) then I beleive the nation would be a better place. Guys would please their women, feel confident and everyone would be better off. I really believe the world would be a better place to live. However we need to squash this shit about 12” 14” etc. If you did that, you’d be going from one extreme to the other and would once again be a less desirable sex partner. The optimal range for length is 7”-9” and girth 6”-7” depending on your girl. You can custiomize your unit but please keep in mind the girl is important too!

Hang on

Many good points here, but am not sure I buy this stuff about most people just giving up in a few months and therefore not making any gains. Remember nobody gains better than a newbie 0.5 - 2 inches are not uncommon within a couple of months. Even if most guys don’t stick with it for years averages would still go up quite a bit.

We all want to believe that thing will stay the same that in 5 years time our gains will be every bit as valuable as they are to day but the truth is things are changing…. Back in the 50s and 60s nobody worked out, gyms virtually did not exist. Now there are several gyms in every town and a good percentage of guys lift weights….


keeep going!

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Originally posted by Don Diego
If everybody knew about there might even be penis builders, that once a year came together in a big competition to show off their freakishly huge penises in the 8 basic poses, that show off every vein and bump on the penis.
That would be kinda wierd.

That was damn funny! I can imagine the fans saying: “Well, he has great mass but lacks a bit in symmetry and definition - probably a pumper. Great poser though, flexes his PC exactly in time with the music.”

As for PE going mainstream, I just hope it doesn´t. I love being part of a secret brotherhood that the majority don´t know about, like Men in Black for dick squeezers. :-)

/sizemoore

Well the pills are mainstream, and those flopped. I don’t think hanging would go mainstream, because of the injury risks. Nor pumps.

If I see any jelqing or stretching infomercials, I might get worried.


"It doesn't matter where you start, it only matters where you end up."

Re: Hang on

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Originally posted by dongers
Many good points here, but am not sure I buy this stuff about most people just giving up in a few months and therefore not making any gains. Remember nobody gains better than a newbie 0.5 - 2 inches are not uncommon within a couple of months. Even if most guys don't stick with it for years averages would still go up quite a bit.

Sorry, just can’t agree with you less on that one. I’ve been around a while on this and other forums, and while there are a FEW newbies who get good gains, MOST guys don’t - it takes a hell of a lot longer than 2 months. For older guys there is always the ‘regaining’ when they first start, and with kegeling I noticed harder erections from the start. The vast majority do give up - they join a pay site, buy pumps, read forums etc, but never post or very rarely.

I sort of keep in contact with some of my first PE buddys, and they all gave up between 2- 6 months although one did restart. The other 3 have not had any gains and have quit for good.

For any newbie who may read this, if you do not see great gains immediately, that is par for the course. Don’t become discouraged - look for another routine or programme that may help you.


Ciao

Are you sure?

Guiri,

Wish I could believe what you say but just take a look at the stats page. Go over people’s gains in the first months, by and large they are very good. People plateau later… It is possible that the people who input their stats are a biased group- ie those who have made good gains and are so psyched they need to post them while the multitudes who see nothing at first keep quiet… Unfortunately I think this is wishful thinking.


keeep going!

Like Guiri, I have been around for a while (he is a bit “older” than I) Very few guys gain much of anything in the first few months.
My experience from reading the (literally) thousands of threads hear at Thunder’s is that most don’t post stats or anything else untill they have gained some. Some do gain fast and a lot. For most it takes a lot of time and dedication. The “I gained 3 inches in 2 months” is an add for a pay site.

Look a the number of members Vs. the number of guys that have posted at Size’s (I am assuming that this is what you mean by the stats page) A very small % have posted numbers. I think it’s bad science to assume that the posters are an accurate sampling.

Dongers, why not start a poll? “Guys that have posted stats, did you wait till you hade some gains before you posted them?”


Running a Massive Co-Front.

This has been an interesting thread!

Well, one thing is for sure, our knowlege is increasing with time and that will help all of us progress. I didn’t realize how many different ways that this could be viewed. Wow, you guys have some great opinions. One thing stands true to me. Achieving my enlargement goals have become so important to me.


Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.

Re: Are you sure?

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Originally posted by dongers
Guiri,

Wish I could believe what you say but just take a look at the stats page. Go over people's gains in the first months, by and large they are very good. People plateau later… It is possible that the people who input their stats are a biased group- ie those who have made good gains and are so psyched they need to post them while the multitudes who see nothing at first keep quiet… Unfortunately I think this is wishful thinking.

Thanks, you motivated me to go update my personal routine thread.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

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