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NEGATIVE PI Question.

First, sorry Thunder if I’m posting 1 too many posts on the same thing the past few months.

Now.onto the question:

Is it a problem if, for the past 3 or 4 months, I’ve been having —

A.) Less morning wood

And

B.) A “stiff” flaccid after ejaculation

BUT! My manual erections are the same. They’ve been very strong lately in fact.

Should I be taking an extended break from jelqing (which I just re-started) and jerking, or is it something I can ignore b/c it’s not effecting my manual erections?

Thanks.

Can you achieve a 100% rock hard erection? (in other words, say last time u measure u were 7x5, can u reach 7x5?) In my experience as long as you can do this, your dick is fine, although its best to ere on the side of safety ofcourse…

Ron:

Yes, my erections lately have been pretty much superb. Before a week or so ago, not so much. I think stress at home was effecting it.

Anyway, I’m gonna ere on the safe side anyway and take an extended break. I don’t like the way it feels when I stretch, feels a bit “constricted”.

Hopefully by then the stiffness will go away.

Originally Posted by bobs3304
First, sorry Thunder if I’m posting 1 too many posts on the same thing the past few months.

Now.onto the question:

Is it a problem if, for the past 3 or 4 months, I’ve been having —

A.) Less morning wood

Morning wood isn’t a positive indicator, it is a neutral one. Wood only occurs when you wake up from REM sleep, which you have 4-5 cycles from in your sleep. It could happen that you wake up from REM sleep, which leads to morning wood. Another time you wake from another stage of sleep, which leads to no morning wood. In any case, morning wood isn’t related to PE.

I checked out Sparx’ thread and I was under the impression no morning wood was a negative PI.

What about the “stiffness” when flaccid though?

Originally Posted by bobs3304
I checked out Sparx’ thread and I was under the impression no morning wood was a negative PI.

What about the “stiffness” when flaccid though?

Yes, sparkyx’s thread is a very good one, I recommend it, with the exception of the morning wood part. It looks to me that spark didn’t researched the sleep part to well. Could one of the mods move the morning wood part to neutral so people won’t get confused or are incorrectly informed?

Bird2 - Morning wood is an indicator of good penile health. I don’t think Sparky was saying it’s necessarily an indicator of growth.

Originally Posted by Klayton
Bird2 - Morning wood is an indicator of good penile health. I don’t think Sparky was saying it’s necessarily an indicator of growth.

Hi Alice,

Why is it when guys wake up they have an erection in the morning? Does this happen to ALL guys? Thanks.

Dear Reader,

Many men think their penises are erect upon waking because of urine buildup in the bladder, but this is false. Morning erections are technically nighttime erections which happen during Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep (when most dreaming occurs), although men older than sixty years may have them during even non-REM sleep. Generally, we experience four intervals of REM sleep per night. These spontaneous woodies in the wee hours are caused by specific neuroreflexes that are stimulated during REM sleep.

Most guys have nocturnal erections throughout their lifetime, and their frequency, along with one's awareness of them, may vary. Nighttime/morning erections can be noticeably harder or stiffer than those had when awake. The penis can stay erect for up to two hours nightly, and not all men who have erections during the night wake up with one in the morning.

Alice

Source

Who the F*** is Alice?

But Bird seriosuly, if you used to have erections, regardless of their cause, and then due to some PE they go away, I’d say that’s a bad thing.

Originally Posted by Klayton
Who the F*** is Alice?

But Bird seriosuly, if you used to have erections, regardless of their cause, and then due to some PE they go away, I’d say that’s a bad thing.

Klayton,

Opposite to you and many other people here I have read a couple of books about sleep. This has drastically improved my sleep from near insomnia to a fully energetic and concentrated young fellow. Unfortunately I can’t post stuff from it due copy right issues. So I do a search through the Internet and this stuff was the first thing I found and proved from someone else that morning wood occurs randomly.

REM-sleep is used Night wood occurs in REM sleep. People experience on average 4-5 sleep cycles, which means that REM-sleep also 4-5 times during the night. On average, someone spends 25% of their sleeping time in REM-sleep although there are occasions when more time is spend in REM-sleep, most common by babies. This happens because aside from the night wood part, REM-sleep is used to absorb most of our daytime learnings.

The 25%, separated into 4-5 cycles, will make the correlation between morning wood and PE at least doubtful? It will also make it occur at random, don’t you think? Sure, there are people who wake up with morning wood nearly every time. But I’ll bet those people go to sleep and wake up nearly every time on the same time each day. They are also likely to wake up from an alarm. Those people wake up from REM-sleep

Other people who have a less rigid sleep order, don’t use an alarm or/and sleep out experience morning wood way less. They wake up from non REM-sleep (most likely sleep phase 2) and don’t experience a morning wood. Are those people less healthy? Don’t they perform PE correctly? Are they messing with their penile health? The answer is no Klayton. They simply wake up from an other sleep cycle than the other group who do get a morning wood.

Ok, but if the same person is sleeping the same time with the same sleeping routine, and then does PE with the result being a change from always getting morning wood to never getting it, maybe this i a negative PI? I dont base this on anything more scientific than it seems to make sense to me. But what you’ve said makes sense, I’ll take your opinion as good.

By the way I’m a fellow insomniac; it must be more difficult for us to judge this kind of thing, compared to someone who has a nice regular pattern of sleep.

Originally Posted by Klayton
Ok, but if the same person is sleeping the same time with the same sleeping routine, and then does PE with the result being a change from always getting morning wood to never getting it, maybe this i a negative PI? I dont base this on anything more scientific than it seems to make sense to me. But what you’ve said makes sense, I’ll take your opinion as good.

If it was so simple that you got steady parts of REM-sleep this would have happened. But sleep is a way more complicated manner. When you have worked out all day you will need more deep sleep, when you have learned a lot you will need more REM-sleep. This will fuck up the parts.

My theory is that performing PE will lead to slightly more REM-sleep, which makes it statistically more likely to wake up with an morning wood. This could be a logical explanation why it is used as an indicator.

Originally Posted by Klayton
By the way I’m a fellow insomniac; it must be more difficult for us to judge this kind of thing, compared to someone who has a nice regular pattern of sleep.

Do some research in sleep, beat insomnia and have a way better life.

Bird,

Would you care to give us the names of the sleep books that you mentioned. I’ve been feeling very listless in the morning lately and am willing to try anything.

Thanks,

Beej

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