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NEGATIVE PI Question.

Originally Posted by beej
Bird,

Would you care to give us the names of the sleep books that you mentioned. I’ve been feeling very listless in the morning lately and am willing to try anything.

Thanks,

Beej

Power sleep by James Maas
Powerful sleep by Kacper M. Postawski. You can find his site here.

These are the two most important, they will do the job :) .

Stress from continually getting threatened to get kicked out of my house could’ve caused my REM sleep to get fucked up the past 3-4 months, but I’m not positive of that.

Now that I have a tiny apt. All to myself I think that it’s actually helped reduce the stress.

All I know now is that my morning wood had left something to be desired, and my erections were less than 110% until pretty much 2 weeks ago (could be the stress factor).

Physiological?

Who knows.

I’m hoping the break I take starting yesterday makes the difference with the “stiffness” though.

Could there be something wrong with my prostate?

When I used to “balloon”, and masturbate slowly for a long time, Id grab the base of my cock and flex (kegel) and I’d feel my prostate or I guess my PC muscle bulge.

But for the past months it hasn’t bulged anymore. It’s as if my PC muscle got weaker or lost size. Like if you stopped going to the gym for awhile.

You guys are making this too complex! Morning wood is certainly a good sign, but lack of it isn’t necessarily a negative indicator.

INCREASING morning wood is a positive indicator, and DECREASING morning wood is a negative indicator. That is to say that if your normal base line is hardly any morning wood, and now you have more…thats GOOD! On the other side, if you usually have morning wood, but now its gone…thats a POSSIBLE indicator of overdoing it. Ideally you will have several positive or negative indicators that taken TOGETHER will indicate whether you are going in the right direction or not.

All of us have a normal baseline for US…what may be excellent for you, may be piss poor for another. Its important to observe the changes from YOUR baseline…that is a more accurate indicator of how your body is responding to what you are doing to it.

Now lets take a mixed scenario, like yours, where you are getting some negative indicators AND some positive indicators…that can be due to many factors…but it usually means that if you are overtraining…it is only SLIGHT…so you aren’t in any real trouble.

It would be totally different if you had great overall EQ (Erectile Quality…great nite and morning wood, super hard erections during the day, very easily achieve erections) and now its all going to hell in a handbasket, no morning or nite wood, poor erectile hardness, very difficult to get hard, etc. This picture taken together is a very strong indicator of WAY overtraining.

I think that in general, when in doubt, go ahead and take a few days off. If after the extra rest the possible negative indicators go away, you have your answer…you were slightly over the line into overtraining. If there is no change, then quite possibly that other factors are involved (stress, psychological) that are not PE related.

Remember the king of all indicators…that trumps ALL other indicators is GROWTH or LOSS OF SIZE! All other indicators MUST be interpreted in light of gain or loss. If you are gaining, I really don’t care what any other indicators are…you are on the right track. Conversely, if all other indicators are positive, yet you aren’t making gains…a change is called for.

Bottom line is you have to look at the big picture and access your observed PIs in the light of the totality, and not get too caught up in one or two isolated indicators.

I hope this helps you to use the PI system more effectively.

Well if it’s psychological I’d be kinda worried, b/c that’s the type of thing that can have a snowball effect on ya.

Something tells me it isn’t stress for the simple reason that I’ve dealt with a high level of stress my whole life. Sure I was dealing with a new kind of anxiety in past months, but I don’t think going on anti-depressants is the answer.

I feel just as anxious (or not anxious) as I always have. I think I would notice a difference. And the fact that I can get manual erections means it’s not really ED, right?

I’m gonna see another urologist in the new few weeks. I plan on mentioning a mild case of Peyronie’s Disease as a possibility. When hardening of the tissue is accompanied by pain (and I’ve experienced tiny bits of pain here and there) the condition is likely to be diagnosed as Peyronie’s.


Last edited by bobs3304 : 12-08-2006 at .

Sparkyx; After an injure 7 months ago I still don’t get morning wood. My erections have got improved but still my dick won’t go up in the morning. Yes, it’s nothing with my sleep pattern cause it’s not been changed after my injure.


Last edited by latency : 12-08-2006 at .

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Bob,

Don’t worry so much about this, take a week off and see what happens. Sounds like you have more important things to deal with now (other than your dick).

In the past I took 6 days off and nothing.

I’ll take the advice again tho.

I’ll be seeing another urologist soon enough anyway.

Originally Posted by latency
Sparkyx; After an injure 7 months ago I still don’t get morning wood. My erections have got improved but still my dick won’t go up in the morning. Yes, it’s nothing with my sleep pattern cause it’s not been changed after my injure.

All us vets try and prevent this from happening by constantly admonishing caution. OK…its done already. It sounds like you are gettting better, only time will tell if you can return to normal.

I would say go very easy on PE, gentle jelques or very low vacuum (2 in hg or less) can help improve circulation, and help healing some types of injuries. Heat is also good before doing and during the above PE.

Give it time, and hopefully it will return to normal. Have you seen a Urologist for the injury? If not, its a good idea.

Originally Posted by bobs3304
In the past I took 6 days off and nothing.

I’ll take the advice again tho.

I’ll be seeing another urologist soon enough anyway.

Let us know what he says…my money is on that everything is ok…you’re just stressed. You know, stress effects us differently over time. When I was a teenager, I could’ve kept a hard on during a holdup, now at 48+ I have to turn of the TV sometimes or I can loose some of the hardness during sex.

Good luck!

Stress sucks big cock.

Oh, and btw Sparx..

I’m 20.

Not 48.

It’s not like a huge problem.

I can still have sex.

Still pop boners in the morning.

Still getting hard watching naked girls.

Problem is that I’m wondering if it effects my ability to do solid PE.

At this point all I wanna do is jelq. Is that cool, or no dice?

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