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need perspective

I am sorry but I had to write this, I don’t like to whine but I just need to say this because I can’t really say this to anyone else.

I feel like I am obsessing about my penis size or lack there of (5 X 4.75) to the point that I feel like I am going insane.

I feel like my life depends on it and that without a bigger dick my life is worthless, I just have to get back to reality, but I don’t know how since all I think about is getting a bigger dick.

I just would like to know how others keep perspective. I

have stopped dating women or even trying to attempt anything that might lead to sex because of my penis size and also because it would interefere with my hanging routine.


Re: need perspective

Originally posted by rolo
I feel like my life depends on it and that without a bigger dick my life is worthless, I just have to get back to reality, but I don’t know how since all I think about is getting a bigger dick.

I just would like to know how others keep perspective.

Hi rolo,
I think I know how you feel. I’ve never had such an extreme perspective, but everybody here who wants to have a bigger dick and is willing to put a lot of effort into it can understand how you feel.
Anyway, you should consider the following:

I have stopped dating women or even trying to attempt anything that might lead to sex because of my penis size and also because it would interefere with my hanging routine.

You should use PE to make your penis bigger, and that’s all. It should not become the meaning of your life! To me what you say sounds like “OK, I can’t live my life the way I want to now because I have to use all my time for PE, but once I have a big dick I can start doing whatever I want!” IMO, you are wasting precious time! I know this is easy to say but hard to accept if somebody is very shy about his penis.
I could tell you that you are just a little below average, but you probably know that and you still think you’re way too small. Why is that? Has someone made negative comments about your penis size?
I’ve started just a little above your current size, and all the women I had sex with before I started PE were satisfied with my size. Anyway, I felt I could use some more size and so I started PE.
I’ve made the experience though that becoming obsessive actually hinders my gains. Now, after each workout I think something like “That was a good workout and enough for today, I’ll get some rest and grow meanwhile” and quit thinking about PE until the next day.
I don’t know if I made sense here, it’s hard to put my thoughts into english words. But I wish you the best of luck for your PEing and hope that you can take it a bit easier!

No matter which size we have, we all have the common problem of obsessive thinking for penis size. Even 10 inchers feel the same thing, cause there are 12 inchers etc. This is an endless loop of ill thinking. Think of yourself as a conversion machine that converts negative inputs into positive results. Every success is initiated by lack of something, otherwise no one would need to do anything to be succesfull. Suppose your goal is to be 7” and it takes 1 year to reach it. Then again suppose 1 year is missing in your life, you are not dating anyone, having no sex, etc. You have just frozen the time. 1 year later, you will start your life from the point where you have frozen everything, and you won’t probably be too old in 1 year time and have a bigger dick. So, I hope this way of thinking may help you.

Soon to be 9''.

I have somewhat the same problem except to the fact the I realize a few things about myself. It is fine to want to be bigger but if it interferes with your day to day living (won’t go out with anyone) then it is a psychological problem and having a bigger dick won’t cure that. You will only find another reason not to date like “I don’t have a nice body” or “I am ugly”. My advice is to seek counseling about your lack of self worth. If you do that, then you will enjoy your larger penis to a better extent instead of manifesting your poor self image on something else. Women do love bigger cocks but men love great ass’s and nice tits but most of us will deal with neither for a good woman to take home to mom. Learn to appreciate a woman’s body in general. Oral, toys, and manual stimulation can take the place of a larger cock for a woman who is wanting to be with you and those who are ONLY out for a bigger cock, they are called sluts.

Remember, this is a self improvement thing, not something to pin all your self worth on. Do not let a few women with not heart make you feel less than a man. Then their sick mentality will have become yours(without a big cock, I am useless)

Hang in there.

Ps. I have two friends that are big and they never let me forget that I am smaller than them. We all had sex with the same girl at the same time and every since then, they have always had something to say about me. Never mind the fact that I make more money, can beat them at anything, have a much higher IQ and look better to boot. It has been a sore spot for me for 5 years now but I continue to date and live my life as usual. I just now use PE techniques for improvement but I am obsessed about it. Let thunder look and see how often I log in here and he’ll tell you…

Sorry for the long replies but this struck a cord….

current enbp: 6.25 (on a good day)
current eg: 5

rolo, I would also like to know if someone has made negative comments about your size? If they have it might help you to tell someone about them, maybe we can understand more about how you are feeling if we know what happened.

My lovely wife of more than 10 yrs, made a very innocent comment to me and in doing so, probably did more damage to my fragile ego than anything anyone else had ever said about penis size.

For me, I started thinking I wanted a bigger dick when I started seeing commercials on the TV about how “size does matter” and I started to believe that. After being on this forum for a while and reading some other peoples stories, I started to realize that there are a wide range of dick sizes and that men put more value on size than women do.

Consider this, whenever you watch a porn movie, those guys dicks look so big, however if you watch closely and know a few of the camera tricks that they use, you will begin to realize that those guys are not as big as they would like to be. They are above average, but not huge. Now watch the women closely, do they stimulate thier own clit? Do they guys lick them first? Are the women enjoying themselves so much that they are in total extacy, or are they doing something else at the same time?

When my wife and I do a 69, whenever I get going she can’t concentrate on what she’s doing because it feels so good.

Perspective plays a big role in making a dick look smaller or larger than it really is. The porn industry uses perspective to make them look bigger, by using tiny women, tall thin guys, camera angles, subliminal messages and even contrasting colors. In our everyday lives, we encounter thing that make our dicks look smaller, like when looking down, when I look down at mine it looks very samll, but when I look at it in the mirror, it looks much bigger. When I compare mine to my hand it looks small, but when I compare it to an object, like a flashlight, or a toilet paper roll, its looks much bigger.

Also, a persons height and weight play a big role in how a dick looks on a guy. I’m overweight, so my dick looks smaller on me, if I were to loose 50 lbs, my dick would look bigger.

While on my PE journey I have learned many things about how to make my wife orgasm, which is our goal while having sex. Probably the most important thing about my penis size is the girth. She explained to me that when she gets close to orgasm, if she feels like she “wants” penetration (she doesn’t always want penetration) she wants to feel her vagina “spread apart” more than to have something pushed in deeper.

Also, I have learned from reading a very good book, that while having intercourse, a woman gets more pleasure from having an erect penis pressed inside her while having the pubic bone pressed against her clit and “rotated” stimulating her clit while having her “filled up”. From my personal experience, this makes for a very wet vagina and a very satisfied woman.

Before I discovered her g-spot, my wife rarely had an orgasm, which I thought was normal for her since she never complained. It wasnt until after we discovered how to make her orgasm every time, that she began to tell how she didnt enjoy sex as much when she didn’t orgasm. Now, even after I have made some gains, and she knows about them, I still enjoy making her orgasm by stimulating her clit with my tongue and her g-spot with my fingers.

From your measurements, I think your girth is good, (larger than I started at) and your length is not far from where I started.

Im a believer in what can happen over time, but time is the thing that we cannot change.



From the stats I’ve seen about % of men that make gains from PE you have a good chance at not only getting to what you may consider average (what ever that is), but to getting “big” by anyones definition. It may take 2 or 3 years, but it is doable. While you work on your size learn as much as you can using other sex organs (your and your “prospects” brains for instance, your tongue, and creative positioning). And when you do get where you want to be size wise don’t get lazy and just show up with your bigger dick.

Check it out guys, no need to have a big dick if you ain't gonna use it!!


How old are you bro? You just need to know that your doing something about your size and you will be bigger soon, it may take awhile but your going to get the dick you want. In the meantime girls like confident alpha male type guys that are confident on the outside and at times let them see that they can be caring and sensitive on the inside. So make sure the rest of you life is going in the right direction also like luvadus said learn how to please a women without a big dick and when you have one and have all the other know how you will truly be her king in bed.

I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)


How long have you been at this, and how hard? I see you’re a senior member, that’s why I ask. Have you been doing PE for the past year? Anyway, like luvdadus said, it looks like *lots* of the smaller guys do make the most impressive gains.

I was a bit longer than you when I started but I didn’t have your girth. And I remember bangin’ many, many women with my possibly-a-little-under-average tool. I didn’t give it a second thought, because the possibility to get a bigger dick didn’t exist for me back then. And I remember none of those chickies whining about it.

Do your PE, learn from the folks here, and grow. And the more you’re here, the more you learn and the more you grow. And remember that there are loads of folks here to help you out. Just look at the responses you’ve gotten in just a few hours….

8/1/02: 5.75" BPEL X 4.5" EG

6/1/03: 7.5" BPEL X 5.75" EG as measured midshaft with a snapped chalk line....

Here’s more perpective….

You know, you could be alot worse off. Your size of 5”x4.75” isn’t all that bad, and infact, its bigger than what I was born with. There’s alot of people out there that are born with birth defects, are handicapped, or poor. When you think about it, should your life really depend on your dick size? If that’s the case, then you’re taking your life for granted. Atleast you weren’t given a smaller size, like 4.5x3.5 right? Oh wait, that was me. :)

You’ve got a good opportunity here. Think positively about this. If you weren’t born with your size, would you of looked up penis enlargement in the first place? I look at it like this, if I was born with a 7” dick, I wouldn’t of had so much insecurity and I probably would of never found PE. Since I was born with a small penis(4.5x3.5), I researched ways of making my dick bigger. I found PE, and I was able to do something about it. Now I have an 8” penis and going for 9”. All of that would of never happened if I wasn’t born with a small dick. So I wasn’t short changed, I was lucky. I turned a negative into something postive.

"It doesn't matter where you start, it only matters where you end up."


Hang in there! Yes, stick to a PE schedule, commit and most of all be patient. Allocate so much time in the day for PE, and leave the rest of your hours for a real life! You must have a life beyond PE. That means going out with friends, socializing, meeting women and, yes, having sex when it’s availabe. Don’t deny yourself one of life’s great pleasures because you’re waiting to be the “right” size.

Most women respond to kindness, confidence and a non-arrogant sense of humor, etc. You can still have those qualities without having the biggest dick on the block. As a young man and before I knew anything about PE, I had a very fulfilling sex life with women. They liked what I had to offer and always insisted on more. Get some good techniques in your bag of tricks! I’ve been married now for several years, and my wife and I have always had a good sexlife, even prior to PE and increasing my size.

Now some GOOD NEWS for you based on my personal experiences:

You say that you are 5” x 4.75”. I started seriously PE’ing (i.e. a real plan and goals) about 2.5 years ago. This may seem like a long time to you, but it seems like just a blink for me now. I started just about at your size at 5.25” x 4.75”. Today, I am at 7.5” x 6.75” erect. Now, how did this happen? Well, I stuck to a PE schedule, committed myself wholeheartedly and was patient. The patience part was probably the most difficult. I continue to actively PE, refining my techniques, experimenting, etc. I love doing it. But I still have a satisfying family, social and professional life beyond my PE hours.

Believe me, if it happened for me, it can happen for you. As others have mentioned, sometimes smaller guys may have the largest percent increases in size. Check out YGUY’s story.

That’s all I have to add for now. I’m working on my next immediate goal which is 8.00” x 7.00”. The pace of my growth has slowed down, but I’m not stopping and neither should you. Just do it! Good luck.


This is just the tonic that I needed, I sat reading all these great posts from you guys and it touched me greatly, it is so heartening to think others are out there and indeed total strangers at that are willing to help out, I can’t thank you all enough for your responses.

I just felt I was loosing my view on the world, as I don’t share any of my thoughts with anyone really these days, therefore ‘my world’ is just PE, work, and obsessing about PE and myself in general.

Indeed, I have no self worth, I am sure if I do get a bigger dick that I will obsess about my or my looks. I just needed to let it out.

CY8 a ; why did your friends hang it on you for being smaller than them, did the girl say anything?

i_want_8_inches ; it is not so much negative comments but more of what is not said, if you know what I mean.

DINO ; I am 25 years old and I was a confident type male, however deep down I always had issues with my dick but never showed it and it never manifested itself, But now it has a grip on me like nothing before.

Bigplug ; I spent 4 months last year pumping and some jelquing with no gains. I have now been hanging for 3 months with no gains and am looking to change my routine.

YGUY ; I am disgusted with myself at times when I think about all the other people out there who are less fortunate than me and who have much bigger problems than I have and what do I do, I whine because I have a small dick!!! Would you mind sharing your PE journey or point me to a post which details it.

Once again thankyou all for your comments.



You’re killing me. I wish I was born with 4.5x3.5… I’d have been the talk of my elementary school! I know what you really mean tho ;)

BTW peforeal 6.75” is some serious f*uckin’ girth. Holy moly!

8/1/02: 5.75" BPEL X 4.5" EG

6/1/03: 7.5" BPEL X 5.75" EG as measured midshaft with a snapped chalk line....

Last edited by bigplug : 06-13-2003 at .


You’re almost there yourself.


CY8 a ; why did your friends hang it on you for being smaller than them, did the girl say anything?

No, the girl said nothing at all, she just messed with them and not me…
Well, they are like that because thats the thing they have on me. I never thought being friends was a competition but they seem to have thought so. Some friends, but hey, it is a part of the reason why I can here. So in a weird way, it helped me. Thats the I look at it now. Motivation….Not depression but a chance to get what I want.

Really, don’t sweat it that much man. Stick to your routine and it will come.
It’s the part you said about going insane that worried me. Just looking out for you.

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