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My situation

Hi kerien,

Please don’t get me wrong but for me is it very hard to believe that with an 4.4 penis you can not satisfy a woman. Your size should be enough to do the physical stimulation…

This makes me think that maybe what lacks is your attitude. Let me explain it, after your “bad experiences” you maybe has develop a fearly attitude regarding sex with partners. That makes you start sex with fear and the end is a poor performance (no pain intended)

The most important for you should be: BELIEVE IN YOUR SELF…

- Your measurements are enough
- You can not take 3 woman as a Representative for all
- PE works, believe me…
- Take care about the other “techniques” for love making (massages, oral, clitoral stimulation, verbal stimulation, etc…)
- and be sure that you are as good as every other one handling those problems.



I don’t know how to explain in words how great voicing my concerns and
reading your responses have made me feel. I really can’t convey it. It’s
a little embarassing to admit that I badly needed to get it off my chest,
and to a great bunch of people like this community, and to receive support.
It’s something I couldn’t have gotten anywhere else, I don’t think.
I cannot thank you enough. I feel energized and like a new person, even
without the gains, thanks to all the positivism shown. You have given me
the fuel I needed to reach my goal.

I will change my routine to hanging, as it seems very recommended. I’ll
slowly add weight and up hangtime, and do light jelqing every few days, and
stretch whenever I get the chance. My LOT is 7-8. Let’s say 7:30. I streched
downwards a lot on my previous routine, even jelqed with a downward motion,
so I’ll now concentrate on higher angles when hanging. My erection angle is
just above 9. Prior to PE, it was just below, and noticibly softer to the touch . I’m also
veinier, and my penis feels more healthy overall. I took no measurements on
flaccid length, but I know the head at least looks bigger when flaccid, compared
to pre-PE. Flaccid is 2 1/2” long now and 3 1/2 girth. I also seem to have a
little more skin covering the head when flaccid.

I was gonna say more here, but your responses covered so much of my questions
and fears there’s no need to add anything more. Only that I have not felt this
oriented and understood in years and now very motivated and inspired.

Thanks guys.

Kerien, glad to see you are back on track with your motivation. My friend, there are going to be times when your motivation lowers again. It happens to all of us, especially when gains aren’t coming, but it is important to keep going. It’s easy to keep going when you’re feeling good, but the key is to continue when you aren’t feeling good.

Gains will come now that you are using a better routine(your last one was only good for overtraining your dick), but it is important that you expect the gains to come fairly slowly still, so that you are at best, pleasantly suprised, and at worst, meeting targets without disapointment from over expectancy.

Try taking up some weight training, to increase your hormonal levels, which improve mood, motivation, confidense, sex drive and body image. Things which could bring a more positive feeling into your life which has been missing for a while. Eat more and eat healthily, to aid both dick and muscle growth, aswel as energy. Drink much more water to keep your daily energy levels up and aid growth.

Finally, when you reach a size where you feel comfortable enough to try dating again, why not try a nice, conservative oriental woman? Most oriental men(definately not all) are fairly small and for a woman used to dating oriental men, your future 5.5” length x 5” girth will likely be considered a tight fit for her and most enjoyable.

Thanks for telling us your story, it is good to express feelings which you feel you can’t tell people in your life. It releases some of the inner pressure to know you don’t have to hide who you are all the time. Quite releaving I would have thought.

There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.

Last edited by Gottagrow : 12-18-2003 at .


I am fairly new here too so you might want to put more weight in to what the vets say.

Your size is small, but I can absolutely assure you that there are many women that are sexually satisfied with men that are your current size. Do you know that when a woman get sexually aroused that she will tighten up to an extreme sometimes? Also, do you know that her g-spot is located only a couple of inches into her vaginal canal (topside)? If you have a hard upwards pointing erection, it will undoubtedly do something for her. Let her ride on top so that she’s in control to pleasure herself the way that she needs to be pleasured. If you can hold back from coming, there’s a good chance that she will be able to bring herself to an orgasm like this.

Here’s a link that claims you don’t even need a dink at all to totally satisfy a woman. Most men aren’t able to do this for their gals with their dinks, no matter what their size is.

Don’t be so hard on yourself about how your human body has grown and matured. There was nothing that you had to do with it and also there’s nothing wrong with it.

Almost none of us here are satisfied with what we have for size, that’s why we are doing something about it. I personally believe that if there’s one thing that’s changeable in size on our bodies, it is our dinks.

It’s of my personal belief that if an infant is over circumcised (which used to happen a lot), that this can be a contributing factor as to why some men end up being of a smaller size then they should have been. You might want to look into doing foreskin restoration if this is the case. Here’s a thread that I started dealing with that issue.
Small Glans and Foreskin Restoration

Also, there is a version of the tlc tugger that will help with shaft lengthening and foreskin restoration at the same time.

Please be careful with all of the different hanging routines, jelqing, squeezes, etc. If you ruin what you have in a panic to become larger, it will be something that you will regret for the rest of your life.

Good luck kerien!



Glad to have you on board at Thunder’s Place. I discovered this site back in August of this year and it has helped me tremendously. You should read as much as you can because there is a wealth of information here.

Many of us are here because we wanted a bigger dick and felt our size was inadequate. I was skeptic about PE at first because of the Medical Communities doubt. After about 6 months I am a believer and have made nice gains. I started with the Penimaster than added Jelqs and Ulis. Now I am hanging. I definitely recommend the Bib Hanger!

I just wanted to be 6” and now I am going for 8 since I surpassed 6 months ago. Good luck with you goal and I believe, with perseverance, you will achieve it and than reach for more.


A lot of good responses here, so I’ll just quickly add my support. Welcome to the board. The greatest gain you will make is the understanding that YOU are in control. No number of inches is more confidence-building than that.

Best of luck.

Rock out with your cock out!


I have also appreciated the replies here and gained some insights for myself. I just want to say to you and others that the size of your dick is not the only way to have a good sex life. It’s the frosting on the cake.

Maybe 4.5 or 5 is small but in general terms women don’t care. I really believe it’s important to be satisfied wiith yourself in many ways when you are doing PE because the effort is so intense both physically and emotionally. I agree with some of the others, you may be overtraining but don’t get discouraged and keep experimenting. I am still considering hanging and it sounds like a good approach for you. You are still a young man and deserve to be happy with your self and the women or woman that you want. Do you have a fitness routine or interested in body building?

Women really like a man that is in good shape all over, I guess everyone already knows that but it also builds self confidence to be in good shape.

Good luck and welcome to Thundersplace.

Welcome !

Wow this shit works!


Welcome! Its good to hear that you are taking action to do something about your penis size.

I started out at 4.5EL and 3.8EG and am now 5.8 EL and 4.1 EG. Just choose a sensible routine and STICK WITH IT. Gains come REAL slow sometimes but they will come. Read up and tell us about your progress.

kerien, I just so happen to come across this thread. Always late to everything I am. Not even sure you are still noticing your thread or not, but my heart goes out to you. I am sure you don’t want my pity and it’s not pity I extend to you, it’s understanding. I could feel your pain from your words and I wish nothing but the best for you. You have a hard situation and you are trying to fix it and I hope by now there has been some changes. I hope that even if there aren’t many changes, you don’t lose hope. That you don’t give up just yet.

Anyway, I hope all is well with you. I hope you keep us posted. Best of luck in all aspects of your life, especially PE.

You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.

Zig Ziglar


Took balls posting that synopsis, kudos to you for having the wherewithall to put your concerns out there like that. You’ve gotten some solid advice and thoughts from a lot of members. You’ve come to the right place.

Some links you might find interesting:

JAPP’s inspiring story

Bib’s History

RB’s story

And I have to say, as I read those posts, it struck me how cool it is, that folks here jump right in and offer up sincere and sympathic advice for a guy that’s in a tough place in life. My hat’s off to all of you. :)

Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis.

Karien also remember alot of girls are small aswell and they would be happy to get off on your 4-5 inches instead of getting torn by 7.

starting blocks march 19 2004 6.5 bpel 5.5 girth bpel-7.75 eg- 6 3 months 1.25 inches in length 1/2 in girth. Last month sitting idle because my tool is now black instead of white.

Just keep working steady, if you quit now you will regret later. And stretch those ligaments, stress them all the time. You will get long unless you have a very low LOT.

Personaly I can gain good when I am overworked by stretches, but my erections suffers. So if you are not in a relationship you should try short stretching sessions alot throughout the day. I found alternating only-jelq routines and stretch routines to be beneficial.

Good luck, your work will pay off. And don’t measure all the time. Gains don’t come easy for all in the start, but they will come. Measuring early will only make you a disbeliever. If you don’t gain from jelqs, at least you should be getting a stronger penis. Stay positive!

That’s why I love this place, a lot of moral support; gives me a perspective how irrelevant my negative thoughts are.

If you are still reading this Kerien I recommend an In-fared heating source, and I hope things are better now. Good luck in the future.

** Take pictures, don't let the mind play tricks on you ** Then: BPEL ? x ? 2004 Jun 23: BPEL 6.0" x 5.1" BPFSL 6.5" 2004 Sep 16: BPEL 6.1" x 5.1" BPFSL 6.75" 2005 Jan 11: BPEL 6.4" x ?" BPFSL 7.00" - resumed after time off since 04 Oct 31 2005 Mar 08: BPEL ?" x ?" BPFSL 7.25" - the stretch feels completly different now, it seems i have reached a plateu 2005 Aug 25: BPEL ?" x ?" BPFSL 7.25" - resumed after about 3 months brake * I use BPFSL for consistency

Dang… I just saw this one too.

Kerien- If by chance you are still reading this and have not had success with hanging look at some of the less (weight) is more threads. I saw mostly pain and not a lot of results from heavy hanging but have recently started a lower weight routine with ADS and it feels like it is working.

Originally Posted by Gottagrow
Finally, when you reach a size where you feel comfortable enough to try dating again, why not try a nice, conservative oriental woman? Most oriental men(definately not all) are fairly small and for a woman used to dating oriental men, your future 5.5” length x 5” girth will likely be considered a tight fit for her and most enjoyable.

Gottagrow- “oriental” is almost a slur when you are talking about Asian people generally it is only used in reference to noodles and rugs. I’m surprised none of the asian members commented about our comment about asians “members”


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