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More Length vs. Girth Discussions

It’s a relatively well discussed topic, but it would be good to have the opinions of vets in one thread on this one:

Does doing girth training early in a person’s PE program affect their possible length gains, and more speicifically, if it does this, does it affect the current gains, or does it limit all future gains?

One the one hand it seems improbable, and I would be inclined to believe that jelqing should complement stretching. I read a post by Luvdadus and he put forward the idea of jelqing one week and stretching another.

You may know from my progress report that I have not had the privacy to jelq for two weeks now, but did it this morning and the shock treatment was effective (suddenly jelqing after a break). This made me think that perhaps a week (6 on, one off) of intense stretching, followed by a moderately restful week of regular jelqing, might be a rather good routine.

Pro’s:

I need girth as much as I need length
Some say jelqing can help cement stretching gains
Some say jelqing at lower erection levels can help length gains

Con’s:

Some say girth work reduces the length that one can achieve from stretching.

I think I will try it for two weeks and one day, to see how the break from jelqing, and break from stretching in each alternate week will affect things. Then, if I don’t feel that it is as beneficial as my previous routine of stretching only, I will re-consult my mentor (who disagrees slightly with the above theory) and work something else out.

It would be interesting to hear everyone’s thoughts on this.

The only way I think adding girth can limit future length gains is it will take more force to stretch the tissues. If one hangs, this isn’t really a problem until you reach the end of your hangers ability. If you manual stretch, it can be a problem as you might not have enough strength in your grip to produce the required additional force.

I used to work both, but I saw the light and am now just chasing length. When I get where I wanna be, I’ll go for the girth via the uli thing…


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Originally posted by RB
The only way I think adding girth can limit future length gains is it will take more force to stretch the tissues. If one hangs, this isn't really a problem until you reach the end of your hangers ability. If you manual stretch, it can be a problem as you might not have enough strength in your grip to produce the required additional force.

I used to work both, but I saw the light and am now just chasing length. When I get where I wanna be, I'll go for the girth via the uli thing…

Thanks for your input, what with you being an experienced and successful vet, it is very useful. Perhaps I can pick your brains later about the merits of jelqing one week, stretching another?

If you have gain potential in the ligs you can gain as much girth as you want and not affect the length you get from BTC methods.

If you have no gain potential in the ligs and you create lateral growth in the tunica, there will be more of it (more tissue to stretch), so therefore more work would need to be done to acheive this.

That just makes sense doesnt it?
SS4

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Originally posted by SS4Jelq

If you have no gain potential in the ligs and you create lateral growth in the tunica, there will be more of it (more tissue to stretch), so therefore more work would need to be done to acheive this.
SS4

So if you don’t have gain potential in the ligs, you’re saying go for length only in tunica stretches?

Using me as an example, I don’t have a great deal to gain from ligs according to the LOT theory, and so I should stretch the tunica, and not do girth work, for example.

So, if I don’t do girth work and gain some length, will I still be able to gain girth well later on?

If girth work negates length work in tunica stretches, does length work negate future girth work?

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Originally posted by ICM

So, if I don't do girth work and gain some length, will I still be able to gain girth well later on?

If girth work negates length work in tunica stretches, does length work negate future girth work?

I’m not vet and have very little experience, but I imagine that once you get the length, girth work shouldn’t make much difference, if any. Particularly with jeqling being part of your routine, as it also stretches the penis. I’d just be sure to do things to keep the length while doing girth work, i.e., light hanging, manual stretches, jeqling at 40% erect.


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ICM,

It is up to you whether you want to do girth work now or face doing more PE later. Do you want to get to your goals and quit or are you in it for the long haul? How badly do you want the girth? Ask these questions and you will know what to do.

Length gains will not negate potential future girth gains because no matter how long the penis is, as long as you can fill it with blood and increase the pressure, the tunica will be stretched laterally.

Good Luck
SS4

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Originally posted by SS4Jelq
Length gains will not negate potential future girth gains because no matter how long the penis is, as long as you can fill it with blood and increase the pressure, the tunica will be stretched laterally.

That’s the conclusion I’ve come to, was just unsure as to whether it might lessen the potential. That is unimporant though, as I am in this for the long haul.

To years ago when I first learnt of PE I wanted quick gains, and I have come on from then. I now know what is possible and what is not.

I will be here for the long haul (I think it describes the journey aptly) and I’m hoping to one day help others, and make a contribution to this site. In summer I will be in employment to save up for uni and will be able to wire some cash then, as this is truly a great establishment.

So far, as far as this thread is concerned, it would seem that if girth is your problem, then by all means develop it, but it may stunt your length gains if you are going about them manually.

If you are however in it for the long haul, and would like both length and girth, then go for length first and you will always be able to go for girth later, even if you may miss out on it for a few months / years until you reach your goals.

I will not train girth (I will still do very occasional light jelqing) until I meet my goals.

Thanks for setting me straight SS4, appreciated.

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Originally posted by SS4Jelq
If you have gain potential in the ligs you can gain as much girth as you want and not affect the length you get from BTC methods.

SS4

SS4,

One issue I had along these lines is that while hanging ( BTC ) with the Bib hanger added length, the compression aspects of the hanger attachment and associated wrap made it very tough to add and maintain girth, other than base girth.

Currently with a manual stretching program combined with an aggressive jelqing and squeeze program I’m adding and maintaining good length and girth gains.

So my sense is that gaining both length and girth during the same time period is realistic it may all come down to time and energy.

zep

Hmmm…well fuck me freddy.

I’ve made half an inch in girth gains in a little under 6 months, but nothing at all really for length.

Prior the the whole LOT ordeal, I was mostly doing manual (LIG related)stretching too. Found out I’m one of the tunica people.

So basically I’ve just made it that much more difficult to get my length gains using manual tunica strecthes, because I’ve increased the girth by half an inch?

What can I say to that besides…. fucking A?

j,

Heh… You are one lucky bastard gaining 0.5”G in 6 months. Also, that gain proves that you are able to expand the tunica, even if the effect has gone to girth up to date - so no worries. I heard in PE super market today, that they’ll send you some length gains very soon.


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Last edited by Johan : 05-12-2003 at .
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