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What about Glutamine supplements?

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In catabolic states of injury and illness, glutamine becomes conditionally-essential (requiring intake from food or supplements). Glutamine has been studied extensively over the past 10–15 years and has been shown to be useful in treatment of serious illnesses, injury, trauma, burns, and treatment-related side-effects of cancer as well as in wound healing for postoperative patients.[8] Glutamine is also marketed as a supplement used for muscle growth in weightlifting, bodybuilding, endurance, and other sports, yet there is still no scientific evidence of its “muscle-growing” properties. [9]. In biological research, L-glutamine is commonly added [10]to the media in cell culture.


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Originally Posted by LongVehicle
Is that the case? I was not aware of that at all, thanks for letting me know. Can you provide any more information?

By the way, what I meant by recovery rate in the thread is recovery from normal fatigue from PE, not recovery from injury. Still, your post is well appreciated and helpful, alin.

He is correct. To reduce chemicals that encourage inflammation, cut way back on Omega 6 oils (most vegetable oils are high in Omega 6. The good oils are olive, peanut, almond,canola, avocado).

Cut down on high glycemic foods (starches and sugars) and add Omega 3’s, primarily EPA and DHA. ALA (flax oil) is no where near as effective in being anti inflammatory as the fish oils.

A couple notes, if you did nothing but add a couple capsules of highly concentrated, pharmaceutical grade fish oil to your diet, that alone would help to greatly reduce inflammation on a cellular level.

I think that this is a really good product at a great price from this source;

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formula…tgels/7929?at=0

I don’t know if this will give you a bigger willy, but it certainly is proven beneficial for your health.

Originally Posted by Clubber
There is a new Palmer’s product which has a similar ingredient list as the eroset vein oil mixture. I have used it for a few months and the results are great.
I told Vagabund to get some, so maybe he can give his opinion if he notices this post. It has been out for a little over a month, maybe more, it’s called:

PALMER’S COCOA BUTTER FORMULA with Vitamin E; SKIN THERAPY OIL……..with ingredients canola oil, isopropyl myristate, cetearyl ethylhexanoate, sesamum indicum (sesame) seed oil, tocopheryl acetate, dimethicone, theobroma cacao (cocoa) seed butter, fragrance (parfum), tosa canina seed extract.

It is a great product and it is like 10 dollars. LV you were saying you use an ankle sock after you apply your eroset oil…..I wanted to recommend using a long narrow plastic baggie that favors a phallic shape. Just anything with plastic. I do this and sometimes put a rubber band at the base of my penis to secure the plastic bag. The plastic helps the oil set in optimally.

Great suggestion, Clubber. So now we’ve added arnica cream and your cocoa butter formula as possible topical solutions.

The bag idea is what sparkyx recommended to me in my log. The problem I had is that the socks would become soaked with oil and it was extremely difficult to clean them.

Does the rubber band cut off circulation at all? Is it comfortable, and for how many hours can you wear it? Do you wear it will sleeping?

Originally Posted by successnthnless
I definitely agree with drinking more water and less alcohol. Alcohol lessens the blood flow to the extremities, which is why my dick looks like a frightened turtle after I get bombed.

Also, this is gonna sound weird, but I have tried Low Level Laser Therapy (Google it) in the past for short amounts of time. Basically what this does is just supposed to make tissue heal faster. When I had knee surgery it helped me recover quicker than the doctor expected. Unfortunately, I have never given it the amount of time to PE that is necessary to see if it helps with PE (90 days in my opinion). But I will say the days that I did do it with a beat to crap dick definitely seemed healthier the next day than usual.

I would really want someone on here to try it and tell us how it goes, definitely read up on it though if your looking to shorten healing time. One site I’m looking at now says that it can shorten healing times by 30-40%. Shit, I might drive home and get my dad’s expensive laser.

Another innovative suggestion, excellent. I’m reading about LLLT now (there’s a wiki page), but I wanted to ask: have you been able to limit it’s effect to your tunica? Are you using a white cloth on the remaining areas, as we do with IR light (such as on the scrotal sack)?

Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
What about Glutamine supplements?

What I remember about glutamine supplements from my time as a powerlifter was that they are extremely expensive at the doses necessary to create a beneficial effect. I’m not sure if this differs for tunica fatigue, though.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
He is correct. To reduce chemicals that encourage inflammation, cut way back on Omega 6 oils (most vegetable oils are high in Omega 6. The good oils are olive, peanut, almond,canola, avocado).

Cut down on high glycemic foods (starches and sugars) and add Omega 3’s, primarily EPA and DHA. ALA (flax oil) is no where near as effective in being anti inflammatory as the fish oils.

A couple notes, if you did nothing but add a couple capsules of highly concentrated, pharmaceutical grade fish oil to your diet, that alone would help to greatly reduce inflammation on a cellular level.

I think that this is a really good product at a great price from this source;

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formula…tgels/7929?at=0

I don’t know if this will give you a bigger willy, but it certainly is proven beneficial for your health.

Interesting! I was taking a Omega 3-6-9 supplement - it is good that you’ve mentioned this. I’ve been off the supplements for a while though, I do need to go back to fish oil. That seems like an interesting product mix in the supplement that you recommended, I should try it.

No need for omega 6 in the supplement form even if the marketing says something like “the perfect ratio” lol. We get enough omega 6’s in our diet, we don’t have to supplement it. Fish oil (omega 3, epa and dha) is very studied and it has a whole list of benefits.

Regarding Olive Oil, I think that in USA is not very regulated, meaning the sellers can write on olive oil bottles “extra virigin” or something a like and have nothing to do with what “extra virgin” offers.


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Originally Posted by LongVehicle
Another innovative suggestion, excellent. I’m reading about LLLT now (there’s a wiki page), but I wanted to ask: have you been able to limit it’s effect to your tunica? Are you using a white cloth on the remaining areas, as we do with IR light (such as on the scrotal sack)?

I haven’t done much experimenting with it, I was just throwing it out there. But by limiting the effects on the tunica what effect do you want to limit? I’m assuming you don’t want it to become too hardened to the point were it can’t be stretched? As for this I don’t know, it might do that, or it might just cut down on the time that it takes for you to get back to full strength (which would be great).

I would do more experimenting with it but the laser’s are somewhat expensive, my dad has multiple that he uses on his patients and he whole-heartedly believes in it. The only reason I’m not doing it all the time now is because it kind of hard to convince your dad to let you use one of his lasers to make you dick bigger.

On the bright side many advocates claim that any light will have a positive effect (obviously not as significant as an intense beam from one of the expensive ones). But I’m sure there are some cheaper alternatives out there, assuming you care about price.

Originally Posted by successnthnless
I haven’t done much experimenting with it, I was just throwing it out there. But by limiting the effects on the tunica what effect do you want to limit? I’m assuming you don’t want it to become too hardened to the point were it can’t be stretched? As for this I don’t know, it might do that, or it might just cut down on the time that it takes for you to get back to full strength (which would be great).

I meant limiting the effect on the area to the tunica, exclusively. That means no laser on the scrotal sack or pelvic area. I was curious, if you had used it much, how you limited it to focus it only on the tunica.

Someone’s gotta try this out, I suppose?

I expect firegoat may have something to say here. Hopefully he sees this thread.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
What I remember about glutamine supplements from my time as a powerlifter was that they are extremely expensive at the doses necessary to create a beneficial effect. I’m not sure if this differs for tunica fatigue, though.


Very high quality L-glutamine, dirt cheap, great company. (sometimes a little slow though);

http://nutrabio.com/Products/glutamine1.htm

Great for lifters, athletes and people under a lot of stress.

Neglecting recovery aspect of PE is all to common, speaking primarily for myself :/

Thanks for the tips guys. Keep em coming. This is a new favorites page :)


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Originally Posted by LongVehicle
Great suggestion, Clubber. So now we’ve added arnica cream and your cocoa butter formula as possible topical solutions.

The bag idea is what sparkyx recommended to me in my log. The problem I had is that the socks would become soaked with oil and it was extremely difficult to clean them.

Does the rubber band cut off circulation at all? Is it comfortable, and for how many hours can you wear it? Do you wear it will sleeping?

I wear the plastic bag with the rubber band around 30 or so minutes after a pumping session. I take it off when the oil dries or when I am convinced it got a chance to soak deep in layers of skin. I haven’t slept with it but I do sleep with a loose cock ring around my entire package……I have been doing this for a while with great results.
The rubber band is snug but not tight. You need to find the right rubber band.


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Originally Posted by LongVehicle
I meant limiting the effect on the area to the tunica, exclusively. That means no laser on the scrotal sack or pelvic area. I was curious, if you had used it much, how you limited it to focus it only on the tunica.

Someone’s gotta try this out, I suppose?

I expect firegoat may have something to say here. Hopefully he sees this thread.


Yeah, you can definitely limit it to the tunica, just don’t shine it anywhere else. I’m no physicist but it think the waves (light, photons.) will penetrate through your shaft (obviously light won’t be beaming out the other side, but there could still be some photons/energy coming out) Which could also be good since it gets the whole picture, not just the surface like the topical creams. But then again you would have to be mindful of where it’s coming out on the other side if you don’t want to get anywhere else. I don’t know if shining it on your balls would be good or bad for them? Wouldn’t want to fry your boys, but you can direct it pretty easily.

Originally Posted by Clubber
There is a new Palmer’s product which has a similar ingredient list as the eroset vein oil mixture. I have used it for a few months and the results are great.
I told Vagabund to get some, so maybe he can give his opinion if he notices this post. It has been out for a little over a month, maybe more, it’s called:

PALMER’S COCOA BUTTER FORMULA with Vitamin E; SKIN THERAPY OIL.with ingredients canola oil, isopropyl myristate, cetearyl ethylhexanoate, sesamum indicum (sesame) seed oil, tocopheryl acetate, dimethicone, theobroma cacao (cocoa) seed butter, fragrance (parfum), tosa canina seed extract.

It is a great product and it is like 10 dollars. LV you were saying you use an ankle sock after you apply your eroset oil.I wanted to recommend using a long narrow plastic baggie that favors a phallic shape. Just anything with plastic. I do this and sometimes put a rubber band at the base of my penis to secure the plastic bag. The plastic helps the oil set in optimally.


I also use palmer’s cocoa butter oil for my PE sessions and post. I also rub a layer on after I shower and in the mornings before I head out to work. It also soothes my skin after I shave my pubic area along with shaving the coin purse. I was originally using johnson’s baby lotion, but found that palmer’s oil works much better for all PE manual excersizes.

Originally Posted by Clubber
I wear the plastic bag with the rubber band around 30 or so minutes after a pumping session. I take it off when the oil dries or when I am convinced it got a chance to soak deep in layers of skin. I haven’t slept with it but I do sleep with a loose cock ring around my entire package……I have been doing this for a while with great results.
The rubber band is snug but not tight. You need to find the right rubber band.

This worked out terribly for me. I developed lymph build up after a few hours, it was very similar to wearing a cock ring.

I think the solution is to get a thicker bag. The problem is that I have no idea what you meant by a phallic shaped plastic bag? Where the hell do they sell long, thin bags? I concluded that the only option was to use a plastic wrap (like you cover food plates in). Clearly this was too thin, so the rubber band’s stress was transferred easily to my skin. Are you actually finding a thicker plastic bag that is shaped well?

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