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Masturbation - Decreases Potential?

Masturbation - Decreases Potential?

Heres just a general question for all you vets out there:

Obviously in order to do some peing techniques you need to get yourself a little or a lot stimulated…. Well sense getting ass is at a minimum right now, the urge to masturbate is a little higher than normal. My question is, have any of you guys or is there evidence out there that shows masturbating after a workout reduces the potentials for gains from that workout? I know testosterone levels drop after ejaculation, but I work out a lot and run so my testoterone levels are constantly be revamped. I usually dont get myself off at all during the week and just wait to get ass because 1. its good discipline and 2. well I think it can reduce the potential of the workout and how your body recoups from it.

Just wondering if any of you have masturbated durin peing, then stopped so much and saw better results, or if you guys just think it makes no difference.

Any theories would be great…. Later Gainers’

I think any effect it would have would probably be miniscule. Personally, I try not to just so that I can spend even more time playing with my dick in one way or another. But I look at masturbation as a “do it when you need to” kind of activity. Lately I have been finishing off at the end of my PE sessions. I don’t measure, so I can’t tell you for sure what effect - if any - this has had. I haven’t noticed anything though.

Go ahead…you’ve just had a long workout and deserve a little treat.


"It's not the destination that matters. It's the change of scene. " - Brian Eno

My opinion

My opinion about masturbating after PEing is.. go ahead and knock your socks off. I highly doubt that a drop in testosterone is going to have even a minor impact on what is more of a physical exercise rather than a chemical one. To further the case, we only live once so enjoy yourself. What I do personally after a PE session is to edge myself for 1-2hours, get myself as hard as steel and maintain that. Not only does this help me last longer in bed but I feel that this edging helps cement in the gain from the session.

Repeated masturbation also subsides the urge to ejaculate too early, because you get used to the sensations. But only when you don’t jerk it off and try to cum like there’s no tomorrow. Tease it, edge it, reach the point of no return several times before relenting. Hell just last night I was edging and I was trying to reach the point of no return and was one tick too late of stopping, juice started coming out but I had no contractions, it was the weirdest thing I ever saw. I somehow knew that this wasn’t the end of it, so I tried desperately to keep hard and it stayed hard! A few minutes later I thought my poor lil pecker had enough so I let him rip, I almost shot my keyboard because I didn’t expect to cum so hard since I already let loose some earlier. Man it was a mess, it was because I was edging for a couple hours I suppose. The whole paper towel was soaked! lol

Ok too much info but you get the idea.. ;p

~Orgasmo (fanfaire)

I read on some PE site that you shouldn’t cum 3 hours around your workout, as the chemical change in your body after ejaculation has a detrimental effect on the cells potential for repair. So I try not to cum and to be honest I kind of notice the difference……..if I ejaculate my penis isn’t as weighty as a workout without ejaculation.

This, like many things here at Thunder’s, has been discussed many times before. Use the search button and look for threads with “masturbate” and “gains” in them. You’ll get most of the previous discussions. It boils down to this: testosterone levels have little to do with PE gains. There may be an influence on erections or other things, but PE gains are made by physical stress on the tissues. Testosterone levels don’t really matter. Many of our members have regular sex with girlfriends or wives and they still show gains. Relax and feel free to jerk to your heart’s content.

After ejaculation the smooth muscles surrounding the small blood chambers in the corpora cavernosa contract. It’s normal and that’s why flaccid “plumpness” might be affected if you masturbate after a workout. It doesn’t decrease or stop gains, it just looks less fat. Not a big deal to most people.

Westla,

When you stretch the smooth muscle and get micro tear effect. What is filling in those area’s? If you aren’t getting the micro tear effect then I am guessing the theory is that the elasticity is increased?

Guys,

As wrester says, this is all too often discussed.

1) Test levels INCREASE, not drop after ejaculation. There were rumours which turned into jokes about the old East Germany olympic team being sent to the red light district before competition.

2) Again as wrestler says, there is no correlation between test levels and gains. Throw all the theory you want, there have been guys on steroids who have not gained. Most discussion on this ends with this point - yes, there are testosterone receptors in the penis (which relate to it’s size), but these close after puberty. If a 14 year old kid took test (which is a dumbass thing to do and would fuck you up bad for the rest of your life), his dick would grow more than the other kids. After puberty, the receptor sites close. End of story.

SS4

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Originally posted by Cya at 8
Westla,
When you stretch the smooth muscle and get micro tear effect. What is filling in those area's? If you aren't getting the micro tear effect then I am guessing the theory is that the elasticity is increased?

I do believe in the micro tear and repair effects of PE. Depending on the exercise done, PE affects different parts of the penis and how each part responds depends on the material in it (muscle, elastic tissue, tough tunic fiber, etc.). So there’s no all encompassing answer. If the micro tear occurs in the smooth muscle of the small sinusoids within the CC, then the repair would be with more muscle cells.

So much time is spent trying to dissect the penis (inadvertent pun) and how it works that we may be losing sight of the fact that PE works. Other than a general approach to working ligs or tunica, trying to determine the small details doesn’t contribute much IMO. Just do the exercises you feel you need for the goals you have and do them consistently and you’ll get the gains.


Last edited by westla90069 : 06-27-2003 at .

Yeah, I agree. PE does work. I have already gained but the only reason I wanted to know why is the fact that some of us don’t gain. I do feel sorry for those people because they think they have found an answer to a problem that has haunted them all their lives only for it not to work for them.

I just thought if we knew the mechanisms, we could help those who don’t gain to finally get to the size they have wanted.

Oh,
Before I go, I wanted to address the issue of the T/dht receptors dying after puberty…..

Why is it that having a lower T level shrinks the penis??????? If there are no receptures there………….

Steriod use stops normal production of T and thats the cause of them not gaining…They are totally dependant on an outside sourse for T.

I am out of here because of you guy’s close mindedness to anything besides a terribly wrong theory……
]Cya

Cya,

>Why is it that having a lower T level shrinks the penis??????? If there are no receptures there………….<

You tell me. I never heard that. If you’re talking about erect size, I cant see any reason why lower T would shrink it.

>Steriod use stops normal production of T and thats the cause of them not gaining…They are totally dependant on an outside sourse for T. <

Explain further. Are you talking about during or after the cycle. If during, the outside source of T would be no worse than naturally produced, plus there would be more of it. If after, there are ways of kickstarting your nuts.

>I am out of here because of you guy’s close mindedness to anything besides a terribly wrong theory……<

Closed mindedness? You do tend to get a bit closed minded about a subject when you have probably discussed or seen it discussed 50 times and it came to the same conclusion each time.

SS4

http://www.alternativeapproaches.co…osterone001.htm

Closed mindedness? You do tend to get a bit closed minded about a subject when you have probably discussed or seen it discussed 50 times and it came to the same conclusion each time.

Then thats what should have been said to me. “hey man, we have talked about this before and came up with……..” After all, I did ask for your help…

Regardless of what the reason the gains come from. I am just happy to have them but I feel really bad for those that don’t gain at all or hurt themselves by trying to hard.

I just would rather remain quiet so I don’t bruise anyones ego. You guys have helped me tremendously and I appreciate all the effort you vets and mods do for everyone here.

Just a difference in opinions and until they really test this. No one will truly know why. I am sure of one thing and that there are a hell of alot of limiting factors to this.

Good luck to you all and happy gaining.

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