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Less Jelqs = More Growth! The 'TWENTY MINUTE' Routine

Ok random update time. It has been almost a month since I started this routine for girth purposes and aside from 4 days of sporadic laziness, I have been consistent with this along with my normal length routine. I do my length routine early in the morning and I do this one in the afternoon after work.

To be honest today wasn’t a true measuring day for me. This was a random, unofficial, spur of the moment, I can’t help myself type of measurement. Basically my penis felt different than normal which promoted me to measure. Happy to report that the measuring tape showed a 1/8’ increase in MSEG and nearly .25” increase in BEG. I couldn’t believe my eyes at first to be honest. As someone that has greatly struggled with girth over the years, this is a very welcome and happy surprise. This may very well be the routine that can be defined as “finding what works for you” (at least in my case).

I am very much looking forward to continuing with this routine for the next month (and hopefully the foreseeable future) if this is what I can expect from it. Thanks TGD for posting this routine in such a detailed manner. It has definitely given me the push that I needed to overcome the “hard gainer” state that I was in. Here’s to another month of hard work and progress :gulp:


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6.5 BP................................................ ...............................................8.2 5 BP.......... 8.5 BP


Last edited by skeebo : 07-31-2012 at .

Hey TGD, I hope you won’t give up to keep us updated with your routines!! The big server crash made the august messages disappeared, but we are still here to follow your ideas!

I wonder if this post will make the thread visible again in the main menu.

I’m still here.

I lost my cable bundle and along with it my internet so I go to the Mcdonalds across the street and use their wifi a couple days a week.

I promise I will update this thread with the remaining phases of the program once a month. If I forget just remind me, I have the remainder ready to go…. but I don’t want to cut and paste everything at once because I know some of you will get confused and someone will try to rush through each phase a lightning speed and hurt themselves.

BTW this program is just the skeleton version of what I plan to publish in an ebook later on. You should see the new methods and routines I’m working on that take even less time and draw inspiration from legendary old school personal trainers and strength training principles.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Hey man, so it looks like you haven’t gained that much in girth from 5.25 to what 5.4? Or am I missing something? Thanks man. Def trying this just would like to see that its actually working for you.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROGRAM IS TOO ADVANCED FOR NEWBIES. FINISH THE NEWBIE ROUTINE FIRST.

That’s inches gained in my head alone.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

So what were your starting stats and what are they now and how long did it take. I guess I’m confused about what you’ve actually gained

I decided to start this routine and got red dots along the shaft at the end of my sixth session. I guess it was too early for me mostly because I have been slacking some during the summer, better get back to the newbie-routine.

@bigdick1 - My original starting stats when I developed this program’s predecessor were closer to 8” in length and 6” base girth with a drop off in the middle around 4.75” with a 4” head girth. I started this updated program last year and gained around 1/16” each month averaged out for close to a year now. The first measurement on my profile signature reflects my size after completing this program the first time and every thing sense is an update.

@16cmofmeat - Yes, this program is very advanced and the purpose for that is to condition you towards advanced exercises and routines each month. I don’t know if you’ve followed this thread from the beginning but I warn the inexperienced to complete the newbie routine first and then come back. Even I got red spots doing this, but I was conditioned enough that they went away the next day and didn’t interfere with my sex life or routines. You’re going to get red spots from time to time, that doesn’t matter much. What does is if they cause you pain or take while to heal. If so it may mean you have to cut back or take more days off…… maybe make this six month routine a year long.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

You are right and I´m not blaming you for making me try it, however I would like to add that I did just a tiny but more(more intense workout) during the sixth session that gave me the dots, so at least for me, this routine is exactly the amount of pressure that I can handle without getting injured. Anyway, the dots have disappeared and I´m going back to the newbie-routine because I believe I have more gains left before moving on to girth-work. The reason I tried this was because I want more base girth and got tired of the boring newbie-routine.

Do you find that using the cold pack post workout works better than a ‘warm down’ with a warm rice sock?

This is one of the first routines I’ve seen with a ‘cool down’ at the end rather than a ‘warm down’, so just wondering what your experience with it was.

On a sidenote..
I’m currently injured (overzealous jelqing, increasing # of jelques each session way too fast.). I’m experimenting with different healing strategies. In highschool when I sprained my ankle really bad I was administered ‘hot/cold’ therapy.. Meaning warm up the tissues for 5 min, then suddenly expose them to icewater temperatures for 5 min, then back to warm temps for 5 minutes.. Seemed to work wonders on the ankle, wonder how it would work for healing a dick? Still haven’t done it long enough to know if it’s making the injury heal faster or not.

Hey TGD, am I going crazy or did the phase 2 part of this workout that you had up, just disappear? Just asking cause I have been wanting to give this routine a try since it is becoming pretty apparent that I have a less is more type of dick. Every time I try to step my routine up my EQ goes to shit and I get spaghetti dick. I think I am going to take a decontrolling break, then maybe give this a try.


Starting: 6 7/8 EL X 4.8 EG (estimated since I didn't measure)

Current: 8.25 EL X 5.4 EG

Goal: 8.5 X 6.25

Originally Posted by Ich1
Hey TGD, am I going crazy or did the phase 2 part of this workout that you had up, just disappear?

Just about every post from the month of August was lost when the servers crashed which include phase 2. I can repost it for the time being though.

Phase 2: Middle girth & Midhead girth + Head Girth

-Monday and Friday-
:::Middle girth:::
Work up to 5 sets of each
before moving on to Phase 3.

10-12 Middle to MidHead dry jelqs
- superset with -
30 sec MidBase hold

- Finisher -
50-100 middle to head wet jelqs
(Take 1-2 seconds more for each rep)

-Wednesday-
:::Midhead girth:::
Work up to 5 sets of each
before moving on to Phase 3.

10-12 Middle to MidHead dry jelqs
- superset with -
30 sec MidBase hold

- Finisher -
50-100 middle to head wet jelqs
(Take 1-2 seconds more for each rep)

-Tuesday and Thursday-
5 sets of 30 sec head holds

- Finisher -
3 sets of 20-30 full wet jelqs

End of Phase 2.


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6.5 BP................................................ ...............................................8.2 5 BP.......... 8.5 BP

Thanks skeebo! Can’t wait to give it a try and report back on my progress.


Starting: 6 7/8 EL X 4.8 EG (estimated since I didn't measure)

Current: 8.25 EL X 5.4 EG

Goal: 8.5 X 6.25

I did not realize most of the original routine was lost. I have everything saved on my computer like I said, but will only release each phase a month at a time.

@Smallja - I’ve experimented with both warming back up and cooling down after strenuous pe routines. Cooling down is a lot more important from what I’ve seen. You need to cool down inflammation as fast s possible so you can start to rebuild. Don’t ask me how it works unless you want the long drawn out medical explanation. It just works better. Cool down and let it warm back up with your body heat.

@Ich1 - Definitely take a decon break for about a week up to a month if you need it. I’m right there with you! I got deep vain thrombosis from claming too long and haven’t seen a good EQ in a few days. NO big worries, these things always heal up fine if you leave it alone. But, I haven’t left it alone….. I still work my head a little every day. Just nothing that rubs the broken blood vessel the wrong way.

@skeebo - Thanks for helping!


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Bad news!

My computer containing the origional program crashed. I will see if I can fix it without wiping the drive clean or else try to remember everything and post it here.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

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