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Less Jelqs = More Growth! The 'TWENTY MINUTE' Routine

Show of hands. Anyone interested in a head girth only routine stop and read carefully below. Here is the head girth routine I promised you!

Before we get started allow me to simply ask why is it the head and upper part of the shaft will lag behind despite all the jelqing and pumping you do? Well, to put it briefly the blood vessels in the dorsal vein shrink in diameter the further up the shaft you go and are at their thinnest around the neck branching off into capillaries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gray1159.png

So the blood vessel expansion towards the base will bottle neck towards the head and give more resistance, Vis`-a-vis´ better gains at the thicker base and less at the head. Think of an long animal balloon being blown up. Much in the similar fashion it will expand at the base and then grow until the tip is the same circumference. To help illustrate my point, here is an average looking girl without a bra blowing up a balloon.

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After reading all of this you may want to just to the conclusion to just jelq more towards the head and you’d be partially right, but not so fast. I have to point out is the importance of not trying to over expand blood vessels by doing any strenuous pe exercise. The tiny elastic blood vessels in the penis contain a muscle-like sheath that allows them to expand and contract as needed. If you over work them or the CC they will shrink up in an attempt to heal and may cause painful erections later.

Through trial and a lot of error, injuries mostly, I found that in order to get a better head LESS IS ALWAYS MORE. We will be using small sets and reps of holds and milking exercises which will be compounded with any pumping, clamping, or full wet jelqs you do. With that said and basic understanding out of the way, here is the routine. FINALLY!

-Workout-
Tuesday and Thursday
6 sets:
20 second overhand head holds.
* squeeze your semi hard flaccid
erection behind the head, pull down
slightly, and then hold for a count to
TWENTY!

-Finisher-
50-100 dry jelqs
Do these from about a half inch behind the head.
*You will need to use a tiny bit
of lube to keep the skin from sheering,
and really try not to cum. You’ll be a
lot more tender and excitable doing
this so take little 10 sec breaks if you
need to.

That’s it!

I’ve got writers block pretty bad tonight so let me know if you think I missed something or have any questions in general.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Wow! I’m surprised ~1600 views in only 9 days.

If anyone has tried this routine out don’t hesitate to share your experience good or bad.

I would appreciate any feedback so I can tweak this routine to suit everyone safely and effectively. I will also remind you all that the two routines listed above are just for the first month. You may not see a whole lot of growth after the first four weeks, but the girth gains will stack as you go on and by the sixth month you should have a pretty fat log in far less time than a traditional jelq program. The way I designed this program was for you to work on lagging areas one after another, and then go back to what you were doing before with optional supplemental routines.

I also have another program I am working on designed to increase length OR girth tremendously by NOT doing any pe for a while, only doing a bare minimum light jelqing and stretching routine to maintain blood flow. Then after your penis has adapted you do a daily pe routine for a few a while before repeating the process for 12 weeks. It’s based on the biological response of hyperadaptation after sudden shock in plants and animals.

For those of you seeking length just hold on. I have a few manual stretching programs I’ve been itching to dust off and start again. I got most of my girth with manual stretching alone and now have some new concepts I’ve toyed around with that I’m sure even the vets will find valuable. Till then I have a lot of research and experimenting on biology, geometry, and physics to do.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

It’s not too dissimilar from the Sadsak exercise.

It’s not the exercise that matters, but the routines.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

I’d be far more interested in the principles and theories that you used to design the routine than the routine itself.

How about it ?

You are very original in your approaches, very interesting and valuable.

So, concerning your first routine (sorry if I’ve missed anything due to the language barrier), it is completely based on stress-rest of different parts of the penis, weighting more the near the base, isn’t it?
I didn’t understand well enough what you’ve said concerning people whose base is not thicker than the rest or even thinner. Your routine seems to boost a kind of baseball effect, so I’m not sure about what you’ve explained for people that don’t want that. Shouldn’t them start from base to base-mid sector and go up to the shaft during the weeks? Why the base is supposed to rest from the beguining when it is thinner?, how it’ll grow?

Furthermore, your basics seem to suppose that the jelq growing effect is mainly due to smooth muscle, is it ok? What about TGC theory?, how you experienced a kind of too tight tunica to continue growing without any specific work on it?

Your routine seems to work on less is more fundamentals, are you a less is more member?, do you think it may work for other kind of PE’r?

It is very interesting since it saves a lot of time both regarding the train itself and the training days, so if it works it’ll be revolutionary, and that’s the reason why I’m disturbing you with too many questions.
This week I didn’t have enough time to do the current routine (5/2) and I only did jelq three days not consecutive.
I’ve noticed very good EQ, but I thought the reason was that I was staying on a different place from what I’m used to and those kind of things, but now I’m not sure if it is related to what you’ve brought…

Good thread.

@Capernicus1 - The basic theory I developed behind routine as a whole was that the taper from base to head was more important than base girth bragging rights. A dick with a base girth of 5.5”, a middle girth of 5”, and a behind head girth of 4.5” would look bigger in general than a dick with a base girth of 6”, a middle girth of 5” and a behind head girth of 4”. I.e. a cucumber vs a carrot.

I came up the rep scheme after studying eastern Tao philosophies of training the body as a whole. The hormones and blood flow released during manual pe is just as important as the pe itself. On a side note: I also worked my grip in the gym to help with pe. Therefore, it made sense to me to experiment with bodybuilding rep schemes and principles. The sectional jelqs came as a resullt of trying out split routines with basic geometry dividing the shaft into multiple sections to work different areas on different days. After a lot of trial and error I found working with these reps gave me the results I was looking for in less time than spinning my wheels with the same jelqing routines over and over.

Hope this explained it well enough.

@ircabo - You misunderstood me. This routine is for people with a thicker base and more of a cone shaped penis. While I planned on writing a routine for evening out the baseball bat effect in this thread, I didn’t want to cause any unnecessary confusion. I do have a few thoughts on that as well, I found the same 30 sec holds and higher rep pyramid sets help with base girth since the blood vessels are widest at the base.

***Spoiler Alert!***

Just for you I’ll expose my base girth routine ahead of time. As for the rest of you follow the plan and well get to this later on. Go for 5 sets of 30 sec holds superset with higher EQ 50,40,30,20,10 base to mid base dry jelqs with as little rest as possible. After than do 100 70-80% EQ wet jelqs taking as much time as you need to complete.

Once you get a base girth you are happy with and find the rest is lagging then you can give this a try. You will not develop a baseball bat overnight. That malformation will be the result of months if not years of careless improper jelqing. I should know I had a pretty bad one myself and managed to fix it.

@Sparkyx - Thank you!


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

TGD, please explain the routine to me as I am not quite sure I understand the basic one.

Do you mean you do a 30 sec hold and then jelq 15-20 times, and that constitutes one set? AND by hold do you mean to squeeze at the specified area like a clamp for 30 seconds? And what erection level do you recommend?

Thanks in advance.

TGD thanks for the extra explanation and I do have one other question.

Since the routine is so minimal I’m interested to know what your thoughts are on the actual gaining mechanism here ?

Do you believe it’s triggering actual growth or just stretching ?
Thanks

Thank you very much for your help and thorough approaches, I’d missed anything due to my English but now it’s much clearer for me. It’s extremely interesting all of this.

In addition to the sparkyx questions about erection level (by the way, what kind for grip do you most recommend to your routine while jelqing?), I’d like to ask another general thing (for example for a uniform penis and for a uniform growth -even considering your clear explanation about baseball shape effect-):

If I’m not wrong, the basics of your routine are to focus on different sections during time on several time scales, namely:

First 4 weeks: One should choose two consecutive sectors of the penis to stress more (like your example for carrot shaped people) and, once chosen them, the one which is nearest the base should be worked two days a week (Monday and Friday) as well as with a little more stress or/and less rest between sets, whereas the other sector is supposed to be generally worked once a week.

Next 4 weeks: Two different consecutive (or even not consecutive?) sectors will be worked the same way (if one is the head, it’s recommended to be worked by means your head routine and, if it is the base, with your last -thanks for the spoiler!-).

Next 4 weeks: Maybe the same as in the first 4, of some combination.

Is it more or less ok or maybe I’m still too far? Should the 30 second “uli” grip be placed on different areas depending on where you’re focused on or it’d be good as a general statement to do it at the base?
My last question is just to confirm that the last 100 jelqs of your routines are standard jelq (the whole shaft), aren’t they?

Thank you very much again for all and excuses for my hell of questions/messes in advance.

@sparkyx - Yes, starting with the very first routine you do a 30 sec squeeze at MidBase then let go and relax. Masturbate until you can get an erection again and dry jelq from MidBase to Midhead 15-20 times, that’s one set out of 3-5. Should take you about ten minutes or less. The squeeze is like clamping and should be done with as high an erection level as you can get pulling slightly outward. After you start the hold you relax your kegel muscles and hold for a slow count of 30.

@capernicus1 - I’m sorry, I don’t under stand your question. Do you mean girth work or stretching?

@ircabo - Good question! I forgot to mention that I experimented with various grips and found overhand works best. I will mention others in the weeks to follow to keep things exciting. Yes, the finishing exercise for the first month is full wet jelqs like you’ve been doing before. I think you may be confusing yourself by rewriting the routine. Follow the program exactly as I have laid out starting with MidBase and Middle (with optional Head girth work) for the first month. We will get to the base and an overall even girth routine in a few months. If you have any questions or need help with an uneven or baseball bat shape them PM me.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

TGD sorry if it wasn’t clear, I simply meant do you think gains come through simple stretching or actual growth of new tissue ?

Pretty ok, thank you so much for all.

My last (damn) question is slightly referred from this down quotation:

Originally Posted by TheGreatDivider
@sparkyx - …dry jelq from MidBase to Midhead 15-20 times…

@ircabo -Follow the program exactly as I have laid out starting with MidBase and Middle (with optional Head girth work) for the first month.


During this first month routine, should we jelq from MidBase to Midhead (the way you’ve explained) every routine day (3 or 4 times a week), or should we do it the way you’ve displayed in one of the first posts: Monday and Friday MidBase-Mid and Wednesday Mid-MidHead? It’s only just in case.

Excusse me for confusing some things and thanks in advance again for all your help and great input. I promise not to fuck up more :)

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