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Shunsatsuren, I am not saying this to be rude, but please read carefully through “hanging 101.” I see several things in your approach that need to be clarified or are probably unsafe.

Going for a set longer than 20 minutes with a compression hanger can be dangerous as they tend to cut off circulation to some extent no matter how well they are attached.

Swinging is effective but an advanced hanging exercise. Get your discomfort/fatigue from the weight you are using first and just try some straight hanging to get a feel for things. If you need to swing to feel it, it is too light.

2.5 pounds may be heavy enough for you to gain, but it won’t be for long. You will always need to increase weights as your tissues toughen through hanging. I go by discomfort in the target tissues, when I stop feeling enough of it, I add 1/2 pound at a time until I do.

30 minutes a day of actual hanging sets, including all the breaks, warm ups, jelqs, warm downs, etc. is still only 30 minutes of hanging time, even if it is 1 hour of total time. The 10 hour per week recommendation is based on hang time, not total time. I usually take about 3 hours total to do 5 to 6 hanging sets which is only 1 hour and 40 minutes to 2 hours of hang time, about a third of my total time. I usually end up with 13-14 hours of hang time each week.

If I were you, and I’m not saying you won’t gain if you don’t do this, I would shoot for at least 3 20 minute hanging sets a day. Unless you wanna go hardcore, but, like I said, I wouldn’t personally recommend that.

Roots

Correction, my hang time is about TWO THIRDS of my total time.

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Shunsatsuren, I am not saying this to be rude, but please read carefully through “hanging 101.” I see several things in your approach that need to be clarified or are probably unsafe.

Going for a set longer than 20 minutes with a compression hanger can be dangerous as they tend to cut off circulation to some extent no matter how well they are attached.

Swinging is effective but an advanced hanging exercise. Get your discomfort/fatigue from the weight you are using first and just try some straight hanging to get a feel for things. If you need to swing to feel it, it is too light.

2.5 pounds may be heavy enough for you to gain, but it won’t be for long. You will always need to increase weights as your tissues toughen through hanging. I go by discomfort in the target tissues, when I stop feeling enough of it, I add 1/2 pound at a time until I do.

30 minutes a day of actual hanging sets, including all the breaks, warm ups, jelqs, warm downs, etc. is still only 30 minutes of hanging time, even if it is 1 hour of total time. The 10 hour per week recommendation is based on hang time, not total time. I usually take about 3 hours total to do 5 to 6 hanging sets which is only 1 hour and 40 minutes to 2 hours of hang time, about a third of my total time. I usually end up with 13-14 hours of hang time each week.

If I were you, and I’m not saying you won’t gain if you don’t do this, I would shoot for at least 3 20 minute hanging sets a day. Unless you wanna go hardcore, but, like I said, I wouldn’t personally recommend that.

Roots

Alright so now I’m doing sets of 20 instead of 30 minutes, followed by 10 minutes of jelqing after each set. For now, I’m doing 2 sets of 20 minutes with 2.5 lbs. With the jelqing, warming up, and re-wrapping, it does eat up quite a lot of time, and my intention is to add a 3rd set, but I need to get my sleep schedule straight and diminish some unnecessary time-consuming habits. I see now that this will be a major commitment.

If I were to only do 2 sets of 20 minutes throughout my entire hanging “career,” but increased weight accordingly, how would my gains likely compare to if I did 2 sets of 20 minutes in the long run?

I feel like I can take more than 2.5 lbs, but I don’t want to rush and miss out on any potential gains at this weight. How much is it likely for me to gain at this weight? How long should I continue at this and each subsequent weight levek before moving on?

Whats your favorite way to hang btc??

Shansatsuren, you are correct, hanging is definitely a commitment. I think you definitely could see progress only doing 2 sets a day, but it’s hard to say if you might gain more adding a third set - you probably would.

And it’s hard to talk about weight in absolute terms. You need to use a weight that lets you feel the stretch in the target tissues. It should cause a little discomfort there. If you stop feeling it, you need to move up. Being concerned with safety is a good thing though. You can usually increase a pound a week or a little more if you are no longer feeling any discomfort. I usually go in 1/2 pound increments until I feel the stretch again.

Roots

Originally Posted by toyotajon93
Whats your favorite way to hang btc??

I will be standing up with the hanger attached. The only position I’ve done so far is standing up.

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Shansatsuren, you are correct, hanging is definitely a commitment. I think you definitely could see progress only doing 2 sets a day, but it’s hard to say if you might gain more adding a third set - you probably would.

And it’s hard to talk about weight in absolute terms. You need to use a weight that lets you feel the stretch in the target tissues. It should cause a little discomfort there. If you stop feeling it, you need to move up. Being concerned with safety is a good thing though. You can usually increase a pound a week or a little more if you are no longer feeling any discomfort. I usually go in 1/2 pound increments until I feel the stretch again.

Roots

Earlier, I was browsing through a couple of hanging threads. There was a post that said you shouldn’t be able to get an erection immediately after hanging due to fatigue or something. If, after a set, I warm-up and begin to jelq and obtain an erection, does this mean the weight is too low?

The reason for keeping the sets at 2 is because of the sheer amount of time that 3 consecutive sets will take, factoring in the breaks, re-warming up, and jelqs in between. I’ll see if I can or need to add a third set somewhere down the line.


Last edited by Shunsatsuren : 08-16-2014 at .

Good plan on the third set. You should see how much time each day six sets takes! It’s crazy. A lot of movies to kill time.

Look on Bib’s site for how to predict your starting angle. More than likely it will be between the cheeks unless you naturally have a very low penile exit point.

Erections: I can get massive erections after hanging for even six sets. And I’m gaining. Sometimes after like ten minutes of edging following a heavy hang the erection can get difficult to maintain, but this is never the case with post-hanging sex. For me at least. If you can’t get an erection or you turtle an extreme amount, this could indicate trauma. Too much trauma, that is. Keep an eye on those PI’s.

Roots

rootsnatty, my erect girth is 5 inches. Sorry for the delay, but I didn’t know where to get soft measuring tape. I measured it before with floss but it came out inaccurately and I wanted to be certain.

My routine has changed once again. I was getting too heated from jelqing and kept edging, which eventually led to ejaculation almost each session. This both discouraged me and took up a butt-load of time, and because of that, my routines will be hanging only.

I’m doing 2 sets of 2.5 lbs for 20 minutes, with a 5 minute warm up at the beginning and 10 minute rest in between hangs. During the rests, I hold the warm towel around my member.

august 13 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 14 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 16 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 18 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 19 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 20 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 22 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 28 - 2.5lb x 20m (4 sets)

I forgot to log a day or 2. I’m going to start taking pictures now that I have measuring tape.

Should I move on to 3 lbs now, or wait? September 25 is going to be the 6 week mark. Should I only add 1/2 lb every 6 weeks?

Originally Posted by Shunsatsuren
rootsnatty, my erect girth is 5 inches. Sorry for the delay, but I didn’t know where to get soft measuring tape. I measured it before with floss but it came out inaccurately and I wanted to be certain.

My routine has changed once again. I was getting too heated from jelqing and kept edging, which eventually led to ejaculation almost each session. This both discouraged me and took up a butt-load of time, and because of that, my routines will be hanging only.

I’m doing 2 sets of 2.5 lbs for 20 minutes, with a 5 minute warm up at the beginning and 10 minute rest in between hangs. During the rests, I hold the warm towel around my member.

august 13 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 14 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 16 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 18 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 19 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 20 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 22 - 2.5lb x 20m (2 sets)
august 28 - 2.5lb x 20m (4 sets)

I forgot to log a day or 2. I’m going to start taking pictures now that I have measuring tape.

Should I move on to 3 lbs now, or wait? September 25 is going to be the 6 week mark. Should I only add 1/2 lb every 6 weeks?

First off, nice work. This is all a learning experience for all of us, both individually and as a community. Sounds like you are well on the way to figuring out what works for you.

Regarding weight and sets: I would increase sets first, if you can, to reach your maximum sets that you can perform daily considering your personal privacy time and schedule. Then I would look at weight. With weight I personally go by feel. When I no longer feel a good, slightly uncomfortable stretch of the target tissues, I add 1/2 pound per set until I do. Adding one single 1/2 pound weight is usually enough for me though for a week or a bit longer, but this is not the case for everyone, some need more weight more often, some less. This is why going by feel is a good way of doing things.

What angle are you hanging at?

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
First off, nice work. This is all a learning experience for all of us, both individually and as a community. Sounds like you are well on the way to figuring out what works for you.

Regarding weight and sets: I would increase sets first, if you can, to reach your maximum sets that you can perform daily considering your personal privacy time and schedule. Then I would look at weight. With weight I personally go by feel. When I no longer feel a good, slightly uncomfortable stretch of the target tissues, I add 1/2 pound per set until I do. Adding one single 1/2 pound weight is usually enough for me though for a week or a bit longer, but this is not the case for everyone, some need more weight more often, some less. This is why going by feel is a good way of doing things.

What angle are you hanging at?

Alright, I’m going to start adding another set. I’m still trying to stay consistent with this routine, and I’m finding it difficult to do each day. I don’t have a television in my room, so I’m still trying to find things to do while hanging. So, even if I decide not to add any weight yet, would it be safe to add on September 25? That’s around the 6 week mark.

As far as the angle, I believe it’s 6:00. I’m standing up and the weight is hanging straight down.

And as far as the pumping diameter, I got 1.59 for my girth divided by pi. Which diameter size should I by for my pump to start packing?

By the way, rootsnatty, thank you so much for all of your advice. I don’t think I would have made it this far without you constantly responding to my posts. Thanks monochrome, for opening my eyes to the prospect of packing.

Originally Posted by Shunsatsuren

Would it help to add about 10 minutes of pumping to this routine in replacement of clamping, or would you also recommend no girth work?

I would add jelqs. I have nowadays a super-simplified, unified theory : any time you have doubts about the best thing to do, just jelq. Anything you do with jelqs will work better, like the colour white which goes with anything. Second pointer: do what you like the most to do. If you don’t like hanging (or manual stretching or whatever) unlikely you will stick with it enough to make gains. So better you pick up an exercise you like to perform.

Originally Posted by marinera
I would add jelqs. I have nowadays a super-simplified, unified theory : any time you have doubts about the best thing to do, just jelq. Anything you do with jelqs will work better, like the colour white which goes with anything. Second pointer: do what you like the most to do. If you don’t like hanging (or manual stretching or whatever) unlikely you will stick with it enough to make gains. So better you pick up an exercise you like to perform.

^^^^ This is the best advice you are ever likely to get. This should be on a banner on the homepage.

Marinera, you should seriously start a thread with practical rules like this, if one doesn’t already exist. We can debate and examine the mechanical/biological “rules” of PE all we want, but without a sound practical foundation it wouldn’t matter one bit.

Awesome post.

Originally Posted by Shunsatsuren
Alright, I’m going to start adding another set. I’m still trying to stay consistent with this routine, and I’m finding it difficult to do each day. I don’t have a television in my room, so I’m still trying to find things to do while hanging. So, even if I decide not to add any weight yet, would it be safe to add on September 25? That’s around the 6 week mark.

As far as the angle, I believe it’s 6:00. I’m standing up and the weight is hanging straight down.

And as far as the pumping diameter, I got 1.59 for my girth divided by pi. Which diameter size should I by for my pump to start packing?

By the way, rootsnatty, thank you so much for all of your advice. I don’t think I would have made it this far without you constantly responding to my posts. Thanks monochrome, for opening my eyes to the prospect of packing.

Consistency is most important. Get consistent then start adding sets, weight, etc. If you can’t get consistent because it’s too much of a pain in the ass, then take Marinera’s advice and do something you can be consistent with. I don’t mean for that to sound harsh or scathing, I sincerely hope you get the hanging addiction like I have, but his advice was so good it is worth repeating.

Adding weight: so you are hanging straight down, this means you should feel the stretch in the suspensory ligaments mostly. These run from the pubic bone to about what you would consider the base of your penis. Do you feel discomfort and a good stretch in those ligaments when you hang? If so, keep using the current weight. If you feel nothing there, move up.

Six weeks at that low weight would more than likely be longer than you need to wait to move up, but it is much more accurate to pay attention to the stretch to decide when to move up and when to stay put. Keep paying attention to the feeling and you will eventually get a feel for it.

Cylinder Packing: a well-lubed 1.75” cylinder would serve you well for packing purposes. You will hit the side quickly and then the only place for your unit to expand will be down the tube.

And not a problem man, we are all on this forum to get help and give help in return, when we can.

Roots

Originally Posted by marinera
I would add jelqs. I have nowadays a super-simplified, unified theory : any time you have doubts about the best thing to do, just jelq. Anything you do with jelqs will work better, like the colour white which goes with anything. Second pointer: do what you like the most to do. If you don’t like hanging (or manual stretching or whatever) unlikely you will stick with it enough to make gains. So better you pick up an exercise you like to perform.

Wow, you sure are right about that. My favorite exercises are clamping and edging, but the problem with edging is that I usually go into something like a trance which is difficult to come out of. This almost always leads to ejaculation. I also enjoy jelqing, but too often this will also lead to edging.

This is why I removed jelqing from my current routine. I began to edge for about 20 minutes, so in between each hanging set would be about 30 minutes of jelqing & edging.

If I did my hanging sets in the morning, following my current routine, and created a girth routine at night, would the girth routine impact the hanging routine & stifle length gains? Like you said earlier, marinera, clampers have reported length gains. So, for example, if I add a night routine, it would be something like:

5min warm-up
5~10 min wet jelq
10~15 min packing
10~20 min clamping
re-warm
5~10 min jelqing.

I mean, these exercises surely effect length as well, correct?

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Consistency is most important. Get consistent then start adding sets, weight, etc. If you can’t get consistent because it’s too much of a pain in the ass, then take Marinera’s advice and do something you can be consistent with. I don’t mean for that to sound harsh or scathing, I sincerely hope you get the hanging addiction like I have, but his advice was so good it is worth repeating.

Adding weight: so you are hanging straight down, this means you should feel the stretch in the suspensory ligaments mostly. These run from the pubic bone to about what you would consider the base of your penis. Do you feel discomfort and a good stretch in those ligaments when you hang? If so, keep using the current weight. If you feel nothing there, move up.

Six weeks at that low weight would more than likely be longer than you need to wait to move up, but it is much more accurate to pay attention to the stretch to decide when to move up and when to stay put. Keep paying attention to the feeling and you will eventually get a feel for it.

Cylinder Packing: a well-lubed 1.75” cylinder would serve you well for packing purposes. You will hit the side quickly and then the only place for your unit to expand will be down the tube.

And not a problem man, we are all on this forum to get help and give help in return, when we can.

Roots

Would you recommend a straightwall cylinder or a tapered one? The pump I use is the MetalVacII.

As far as the stretch, I feel it, but it feels like I’m ready to add more weight. I just don’t want to rush into it.

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