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Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Shunsatsuren, packing is using either a very narrow cylinder that does not allow for much lateral expansion, or filling in the cylinder you have around the outside to make the diameter much more narrow. If you search for packing you will find good instructions on this forum. If the diameter is made narrow enough you won’t need significantly higher pressures to get a lot of elongation - even at a -5 vacuum you should be able to get significant elongation with the correct cylinder diameter.

And, no offense, but your qualms about hanging do seem slightly paranoid. ;) I can assure you that nothing is gonna snap off, promise. Well assuming you are even halfway careful and don’t hang like a complete imbecile - it sounds like safety is a big priority for you, so I don’t see that being a problem.

Also, in terms of sustained, long-term length gains, I think hanging is your best option. It sounds to me like you were struggling with your hanger adjustments and attachment. Learning to get these things right can be a tedious process of trial and error, but there are tons of threads that cover wrapping, adjustments, and attachment. If you play with things for a while until you perfect your technique, compression hangers can be very comfortable. Also, it is best to only use rope if you are hanging SO or OTS. Otherwise, use a piece of wire hanger to create a small hook. Weight plates are fine, I use them, but you should also make some smaller weights: a couple of 1lb. and a 1/2lb. weights, I used fishing weights, duct tape, and a bit of wire hanger.

I should also say, you don’t need to hang. You can achieve length gains just fine through manual means. I just enjoy the very accurate application of stress that hanging allows, and it’s theoretically limitless stresses. But some manual stretching and semi-erect jelqs (50-70%) should do just fine to produce length gains as well.

Roots

Will packing produce fluid buildup? My cylinder is 1 3/4 x 9” LX. How much should I downsize from this? What have you experienced from this exercise?

No offense taken. I’ve figured out how to properly wrap up with the thermaband and cut sock. Which hanger would you recommend? Have you received any gains from hanging? How much do you hang? Maybe if I found some weights that attached directly to the hook, it wouldn’t be so unpleasant. I’ve searched the local Target & Wal-mart but didn’t find any.

Where did you get the fishing weights you used?

So far, I’ve removed clamping from my routine. If I were to split the routine into morning and evening, would you who recommend against clamping while I’m working length suggest also not to clamp at night?

One more thing I’ve pondered during my sessions: how beneficial would it be to consume food after a PE session? Like people suggest eating X amount of protein after weight training, would protein help regenerate and repair cells for PE? Any insight/ideas/experience with this?

Originally Posted by Shunsatsuren
So, would splitting up the length and girth exercises into different routines hinder length growth, or possibly promote it since jelqing and pumping can both target length? If I were to split the routine this way, would you recommend not jelqing during the morning routine, or would jelqing be ok in both the morning and evening routine? Are you suggesting to separate jelqing from the length routine?

It’s good to have some jelqing in your stretching session but even along with your pumping. So split up your jelqing too as you like..
Yes, pumping can both targe lenght and girth, it depends how you do it. Longer time pumping at lower pressure will target more girth and short pumping sessions a higher pressure will target more lenght.
When I had this sort of routine before I did my stretching exercises in the morning then I did pumping & jelqing in the evening/ night. But you can do what feels best for you.. you can do it seperate days too. It’s not a rule how it should be done!


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

Heat is the key!

Originally Posted by monochrome
It’s good to have some jelqing in your stretching session but even along with your pumping. So split up your jelqing too as you like..
Yes, pumping can both targe lenght and girth, it depends how you do it. Longer time pumping at lower pressure will target more girth and short pumping sessions a higher pressure will target more lenght.
When I had this sort of routine before I did my stretching exercises in the morning then I did pumping & jelqing in the evening/ night. But you can do what feels best for you.. you can do it seperate days too. It’s not a rule how it should be done!

Did you do any jelqing during your morning stretching routine? How long and how much pressure did you use to pump? Did you pump only once or multiple times during your routine? I see that you have a significant length gain; did pumping play a major factor in that?

Originally Posted by Shunsatsuren
Did you do any jelqing during your morning stretching routine? How long and how much pressure did you use to pump? Did you pump only once or multiple times during your routine? I see that you have a significant length gain; did pumping play a major factor in that?

Yes, I mostly jelqing when I do my stretching. But main focus on my stretching. When I pumping long sessions, 30- 45 minutes.. sometimes 15 minutes X 3. I stay around 5 hg. But when I do shorter sessions I can go higher from 5- 10 hg in a 3-5 minutes interval with jelqing between sets then repeat. I think my gains is a combo from all exercises I do.. my lenght gains is mostly from manual stretches and from short pumping sets I mentioned.


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

Heat is the key!

Shunsatsuren, regarding packing diameter, if you could tell me your erect girth I could make a recommendation for diameter. My experience with packing is limited, as I said, but the couple times I tried it the elongation I got was pretty awesome. Guys who have eperience - titleist comes to mind, he gained a lot and his picture thread shows a couple of pictures of him doing the exercise.

Hanging - I would recommend the Bib Starter probably, it can accommodate most lengths and girths and has less of a learning curve than the Hardcore. When you get your wrapping, attachments, and adjustments down it is very comfortable too. Note on my personal wrapping preference: I’ve tried many wraps and found sweatshirt and self-adhesive ace bandage to work best.

I use regular weight plates for bigger weights with a wire hanger wound through the center hole, twisted around itself, then bent into a hook. It sticks up above the weight about two inches. I got the fishing weights at Walmart - enough to make two 1lb. weights and one 1/2lb. weight. Put the appropriate amount of weights into the little bag they come in, wrap a piece of wire hanger around the bag, twist it around itself, bend it into a hook, then duct tape around the whole thing to hold it all together. Easy.

I have got very fast gains from hanging: 1.25” in about 5 months total hanging time, with a 6 month break in there where I lost about .25 inches. Got that back and then some really quick when I started hanging again. Not saying those results are typical, just my personal experience. I hang 5-6 20 minute hanging sets everyday at the between the cheeks angle. I don’t split them currently throughout the day due to work schedule, but I think it worked slightly better when I did.

Food and protein during PE: I think it’s always important to eat healthy, but with PE it is not nearly as essential as with weight training or workouts in general. The mechanics involved at the biological level are much different. But you should consume adequate protein just for general health reasons, and it certainly will not hurt your PE.

Roots

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Shunsatsuren, regarding packing diameter, if you could tell me your erect girth I could make a recommendation for diameter. My experience with packing is limited, as I said, but the couple times I tried it the elongation I got was pretty awesome. Guys who have eperience - titleist comes to mind, he gained a lot and his picture thread shows a couple of pictures of him doing the exercise.

Hanging - I would recommend the Bib Starter probably, it can accommodate most lengths and girths and has less of a learning curve than the Hardcore. When you get your wrapping, attachments, and adjustments down it is very comfortable too. Note on my personal wrapping preference: I’ve tried many wraps and found sweatshirt and self-adhesive ace bandage to work best.

I use regular weight plates for bigger weights with a wire hanger wound through the center hole, twisted around itself, then bent into a hook. It sticks up above the weight about two inches. I got the fishing weights at Walmart - enough to make two 1lb. weights and one 1/2lb. weight. Put the appropriate amount of weights into the little bag they come in, wrap a piece of wire hanger around the bag, twist it around itself, bend it into a hook, then duct tape around the whole thing to hold it all together. Easy.

I have got very fast gains from hanging: 1.25” in about 5 months total hanging time, with a 6 month break in there where I lost about .25 inches. Got that back and then some really quick when I started hanging again. Not saying those results are typical, just my personal experience. I hang 5-6 20 minute hanging sets everyday at the between the cheeks angle. I don’t split them currently throughout the day due to work schedule, but I think it worked slightly better when I did.

Food and protein during PE: I think it’s always important to eat healthy, but with PE it is not nearly as essential as with weight training or workouts in general. The mechanics involved at the biological level are much different. But you should consume adequate protein just for general health reasons, and it certainly will not hurt your PE.

Roots

I believe my girth is somewhere around 5.4~5.6. I’m not sure exactly, and I don’t have any measuring tape to check it (I’ll buy some sometime soon). The cylinder size I have now is 1 3/4” x 9”. After reading through a couple of hanging threads, I’ve decided to give it another shot. I’ll be practicing wrapping and warmup up for that soon. Is there a minimum recommended weight, even for starting?

Ya, I believe hanging is gonna be your best bet for quick length gains. Most people start off with 2 to 3 pounds. I would start there and look for a moderate degree of discomfort in the tissues you are stretching, not because your hanger is attached funny, and if you don’t feel it increase the weight set by set until you do.

In my public progress report thread I posted a pretty in-depth description of my hanging protocol if you are interested. It is called something like “Roots’ progress, rambling and tangents.” Should be on the first page as I am updating it regularly.

Roots

Shunsatsuren, you need to get a tape and measure. If your erect girth is 5.4 to 5.6 inches that cylinder you have should already be packed. Take your measured erect girth and divide by pi (3.14), this will give you the approximate diameter of a tube that will not allow for extra expansion. You could try reducing the diameter to 1.5” and see how that works.

Roots

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Shunsatsuren, you need to get a tape and measure. If your erect girth is 5.4 to 5.6 inches that cylinder you have should already be packed. Take your measured erect girth and divide by pi (3.14), this will give you the approximate diameter of a tube that will not allow for extra expansion. You could try reducing the diameter to 1.5” and see how that works.

Roots


Yes that is what you got to do.

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Ya, I believe hanging is gonna be your best bet for quick length gains. Most people start off with 2 to 3 pounds. I would start there and look for a moderate degree of discomfort in the tissues you are stretching, not because your hanger is attached funny, and if you don’t feel it increase the weight set by set until you do.

In my public progress report thread I posted a pretty in-depth description of my hanging protocol if you are interested. It is called something like “Roots’ progress, rambling and tangents.” Should be on the first page as I am updating it regularly.

Roots

Well, I just completed 1 20 minute session of hanging 2.5 lbs. The hanger or the weights didn’t slip off. I am supposed to attach the hanger on/immediately above the head? It seems like it slowly slides down during tWhe session until it lands on my head.

Do I really have to hang for 3 hours a day to get results? That seems a bit excessive. My aim for now is 2 30 minute sessions.

Should I only hang, or continue my stretching/jelqing routine? Is it possible to gain results from hanging alone?

Has anyone tried the LG hanger or heard of PE weights? Here is a link I found with the weights. http://www.pegym.com/products-cat/pe-weights

Would it be easier to just put weights directly on rather than tassling with a hanging device?

Shunsatsuren

. Bro don’t hang for three hours that is excessive. Just do what you said you were going to do 2 30 minute sessions that’s all you need to make gains

Also keep wet jelqing at about 60% erect you don’t need the manual stretching if your hanging. The hanging will be enough


"Just jelq"

Yes Kenish, hanging will be enough. Keep doing some light jelqs just for general penile health and EQ.

Hanging for 3 hours (5-6 sets) is not excessive. That is what I shoot for. Bib hung for 8 hours many days - maybe that is excessive, but the general rule of thumb is hang for over 10 hours a week of straight hanging time. That is about 80 minutes of hanging a day (4 sets), which should take about 2-2.5 hours of total time when you factor in warm up and any additional exercises you perform, like the light jelqing. You must work up to that time, of course.

For now, 2 sets should be fine, and if you are progressing your weights as they feel light diligently, you might gain with that for quite a while. But USUALLY when we are talking about people only doing 1-2 sets a day as a long-term protocol they are doing hardcore hanging which works for some but scares the hell out of me. And most the research done on tissue elongation shows more time under stretch to be the more beneficial route than more force for less time.

Roots

Oh, and it sounds like you need to attach higher up your shaft (closer to your body). The front edge of the hanger should start about 1.5-2” behind your glans so when it slides forward it will rest on the “shoulders” it creates rather than on the glans. Try 1.5” first and see how that goes and if you need to move up to 2”. By the way, that 1.5-2” is with your penis stretched by hand as you apply the hanger.

Roots

Originally Posted by Mr. Kenish
Shunsatsuren
. Bro don’t hang for three hours that is excessive. Just do what you said you were going to do 2 30 minute sessions that’s all you need to make gains
Also keep wet jelqing at about 60% erect you don’t need the manual stretching if your hanging. The hanging will be enough

Alright. So would this be a proper hanging routine twice a day?

5 min warm up
30 min hanging 2.5 lbs
2 min re-warm
10~15 minute jelq/edging

That gets me 1 hour of hanging per day. I’ll probably toss in a couple minutes (like 2 or 3) each session to slowly build up the time so I can just do 1 hour at the same time instead of splitting it, or go into another hang after the jelqing.

Will swinging the weights back/forth or side/side make any significant difference? It feels like it should compared to just standing there.

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Yes Kenish, hanging will be enough. Keep doing some light jelqs just for general penile health and EQ.

Hanging for 3 hours (5-6 sets) is not excessive. That is what I shoot for. Bib hung for 8 hours many days - maybe that is excessive, but the general rule of thumb is hang for over 10 hours a week of straight hanging time. That is about 80 minutes of hanging a day (4 sets), which should take about 2-2.5 hours of total time when you factor in warm up and any additional exercises you perform, like the light jelqing. You must work up to that time, of course.

For now, 2 sets should be fine, and if you are progressing your weights as they feel light diligently, you might gain with that for quite a while. But USUALLY when we are talking about people only doing 1-2 sets a day as a long-term protocol they are doing hardcore hanging which works for some but scares the hell out of me. And most the research done on tissue elongation shows more time under stretch to be the more beneficial route than more force for less time.

Roots

How likely is it to make gains with 2.5 lbs? I know it’s not a lot of weight. Since I’ve also done “hardcore” exercises such as clamping and pumping, does that mean I’ll need more weight to make gains?

Originally Posted by rootsnatty
Oh, and it sounds like you need to attach higher up your shaft (closer to your body). The front edge of the hanger should start about 1.5-2” behind your glans so when it slides forward it will rest on the “shoulders” it creates rather than on the glans. Try 1.5” first and see how that goes and if you need to move up to 2”. By the way, that 1.5-2” is with your penis stretched by hand as you apply the hanger.

Roots

Like you suggested, I set the hanger up higher, and it felt a lot more secure. So secure that I decided to start swinging the weights around while they were attached.

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