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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Neural dysfunction due leg lengthening. Subclinical nerve damage is a very frequent complication of tibial lengthening. This meaning that changes are found in conductivity by testing, but the clinical status is not achieved, which means there are no major signs or symptons in leg functions..

But more severe problems occur as well frequently, but are linked often in patients health status prior operation.

This link would lead to other good sources as well.

Limb lengthening and peripheral nerve function—factors associated with deterioration of conduction - PMC

Typically the rate of nerve damages accelerates if the leg lengthening has been performed at the rate greater than 1mm per day, or more than 1.5% per day.

Some of the studies indicate that at the lower daily lengthening rates the risk is significantly smaller. Dysfunction rate is also greater the more lengthening has been achieved.

I am still saying nerves can be elongated at the rate we usually lengthen our penises. If the nerve is restricting, maybe lots of extender and ADS hours is the way.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Guys, I think that nerve won’t be a problem.

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Look at this video and tell me what you think. Tedx is a credible source of information for me.

Just do not stress it directly under the glans because its easy to irritate it and loose sensitivity in flaccid and erected state. I did that after overdoing it and I was freaked out from morning till noon.

(If you over do it like me- kegels and semi erection + some masturbation and you will be fine)

Sorry for the double post but I forgot to add something.

In my opinion the problem is the tissue that surrounds the nerve or what ever that cord-like thing is.
A couple days ago I used way too much tension and time because of lack of improvement and going back and forth with measurements. After overdoing it the tight cord was at it’s prime. BPFSL went back to - 17 . 3 days later with stretching 3X20 mins a day sessions and jelq after each stretching session ( following those principles Golden Rules) I am now at 18.5cm BPFSL with 5mm fluctuation . BUT after a shower and even an hour later BPFSL is 17,5-17.8 up to 18.3- 18.5 . Girth fluctuates as well - if I cover that 5mm difference its less thick if in normal erection- (BPEL)17.5- 17.8 near PONR. That has been like that for the last 5 months

So guys what THE f*ck I am supposed to do so I can increase length without loosing girth or increase girth even a little bit but not loosing one in favor to the other. It is so frustrating. Some guys gain 1 inch in their first 6 months and I am going back and forth.

How would one heat his unit while in a stretched position using a bib starter? Should I just heat the top part that is not clamped by bib or add IR lamp?

Originally Posted by Swanglow223
How would one heat his unit while in a stretched position using a bib starter? Should I just heat the top part that is not clamped by bib or add IR lamp?

I read in other threads that for hanging people are using rice sock or heating microwaved packs from walmart if you are in the US if not I don’t know I can’t find this thing in my country.
As for the lamp I think the heat does not penetrate the hanger so that’s will be good for manual work.

But still I have not idea how much tension/intensity will be needed with heat . Members say it will need less of it because it will be easier to stretch the tissues.
Still don’t know.

Yea, I meant to say how should one heat his unit with US (ultrasound) while in a bib starter. But thanks for replying

Hi guys, there are lots of information here. Very good discussion.

Maybe an ADS should work better for this thickening. Looking to PI’s to adjust tension, if it’s good, build up the tension, if it’s not good, lower the tension and so on.

Combine that with some pump to work on girth?

Well I’m not on that yet, but maybe it’s a good way to win this battle. What do you think?

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Hi guys, there are lots of information here. Very good discussion.

Maybe an ADS should work better for this thickening. Looking to PI’s to adjust tension, if it’s good, build up the tension, if it’s not good, lower the tension and so on.

Combine that with some pump to work on girth?

Well I’m not on that yet, but maybe it’s a good way to win this battle. What do you think?

Heat. Core temperatures more than +40 ° C are needed if those thick collagenous parts of the penis are restricting elongation.
Then possibilities are open for almost any kind of exercises. There is pretty much nothing we can do without excessive heat.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Neural dysfunction due leg lengthening. Subclinical nerve damage is a very frequent complication of tibial lengthening. This meaning that changes are found in conductivity by testing, but the clinical status is not achieved, which means there are no major signs or symptons in leg functions..

But more severe problems occur as well frequently, but are linked often in patients health status prior operation.

This link would lead to other good sources as well.

Limb lengthening and peripheral nerve function—factors associated with deterioration of conduction - PMC

Typically the rate of nerve damages accelerates if the leg lengthening has been performed at the rate greater than 1mm per day, or more than 1.5% per day.

Some of the studies indicate that at the lower daily lengthening rates the risk is significantly smaller. Dysfunction rate is also greater the more lengthening has been achieved.

I am still saying nerves can be elongated at the rate we usually lengthen our penises. If the nerve is restricting, maybe lots of extender and ADS hours is the way.

Hey Kypra,

Here is my logic and I would like to ask you for opinion since you have read the article. I will talk for my case.. I am in a situation right now

So there is threshold of 17,8mm and then if I stretch to ,9mm the nerve gets irritated. What if I stretch just a little above 17,8 , trying to get half a mm. In your opinion Will it then grow or just irritate it?

Originally Posted by poqw
Hey Kypra,

Here is my logic and I would like to ask you for opinion since you have read the article. I will talk for my case.. I am in a situation right now

So there is threshold of 17,8mm and then if I stretch to ,9mm the nerve gets irritated. What if I stretch just a little above 17,8 , trying to get half a mm. In your opinion Will it then grow or just irritate it?

I am not an nerve expert of any sort, but once you asked I will give my opinion.

First of all if your nerves are irritated you have to rest.

After that you need to start gently.

Then you have to have enough rest days that your nerve is not going to get irritated again.

If the nerve still restricting your efforts, you need use extender or which ever assembly which enables you to use stress relaxation.
And the setup needs vacuum cup attachment not to compress your easy to irritate nerve.

Which means that you are not going to have constant load stretch. You stretch your penis in increments achieving certain strain, let´s say +0.5- 1mm.
You fix in this length and allow the tissue relax to this strain and so on. So not against constant pull but getting the strain and locking in to this length.
Once relaxed the tissues you reload the setup. This is precisely the way nerves are elongated while extending limbs.

You may need lots of hours daily in this set up.

IF you are restricted by the nerve, manual stretching or increasing the load in any exercises might not be the problem solver.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 08-14-2019 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I am not an nerve expert of any sort, but once you asked I will give my opinion.

First of all if your nerves are irritated you have to rest.

After that you need to start gently.

Then you have to have enough rest days that your nerve is not going to get irritated again.

If the nerve still restricting your efforts, you need use extender or which ever assembly which enables you to use stress relaxation.
And the setup needs vacuum cup attachment not to compress your easy to irritate nerve.

Which means that you are not going to have constant load stretch. You stretch your penis in increments achieving certain strain, let´s say +0.5- 1mm.
You fix in this length and allow the tissue relax to this strain and so on. So not against constant pull but getting the strain and locking in to this length.
Once relaxed the tissues you reload the setup. This is precisely the way nerves are elongated while extending limbs.

You may need lots of hours daily in this set up.

IF you are restricted by the nerve, manual stretching or increasing the load in any exercises might not be the problem solver.

Thank you for the reply. I will take a couple of days off to let it heal.

I will try with the simple newbie routine and increase volume not intensity , slowly over time, hopefully it will let it grow.
Don’t have the privacy to use an extender not any soon.

Need advice

Hello,

4 months ago I started with the Newbie routine and saw some fast length gains. Then I took a 2 month brake because I felt this ”chord” and I thought something was wrong. I lost all my length gains and my dick became even a little bit curved.

Now I want to know how to achieve length gains with this ”chord”

Is the heat of a rice sock enough heat to gain length?

Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by zyroh
Hello,

4 months ago I started with the Newbie routine and saw some fast length gains. Then I took a 2 month brake because I felt this ”chord” and I thought something was wrong. I lost all my length gains and my dick became even a little bit curved.

Now I want to know how to achieve length gains with this ”chord”

Is the heat of a rice sock enough heat to gain length?

Thanks in advance

Ho Zyroh. I think we didn’t figured out yet.

As Kyrpa said, temperature is the key. Maybe an ADS is something that could work. But I didn’t find a strong case.

I’m hoping to see successfully cases of growing length with the dorsal nerve already limiting penis size.

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Ho Zyroh. I think we didn’t figured out yet.

As Kyrpa said, temperature is the key. Maybe an ADS is something that could work. But I didn’t find a strong case.

I’m hoping to see successfully cases of growing length with the dorsal nerve already limiting penis size.

Hi mota,

I heard people saying that doing fulcrum stretches with heat will let you gain even when you have this thick dorsal/septum.

What are your opinions about that?

Originally Posted by zyroh
Hi mota,

I heard people saying that doing fulcrum stretches with heat will let you gain even when you have this thick dorsal/septum.

What are your opinions about that?

Hi Zyro,

Sincerely I don`t know. There are some posts in this thread about that.

I’m trying to find out what is the best strategy for me, but I`m very afraid of having an injury. When I first saw this thread I immediately recognized that is my case.

Doesn’t matter how hard I stretch my penis, my albuginea tunic, and all the structures I can feel with my fingers keep flaccid, very flaccid. The only thing restricting the stretch is this “cord”. My BPFL is equal to my BPEL and definitively I`m a shower not a grower.

Trying to understand what it is I found out that it should be the dorsal nerve. You can see my previous posts to understand how I concluded that.

Really I don`t know if it`s safe to put too much force on a nerve. I know for sure that a malfunction in this nerve can cause ED and lost of sensitiveness on the penis. I would never try something that can put my penis in danger.

I rather try something like an ADS. Maybe it`s the way, or maybe I should focus on girth prior to length once length may be not possible.

Here are my measurements (both bone pressed). Maybe we can find a pattern through thunders:
Flaccid: 5.7 x 5.5
Erect: 6.9 x 6.2

It feels like I was born to have a bigger penis, but no.

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