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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by Tweaking
Hi there pooper, welcome to the forums. Could you explain this mysterious post?

Do you think it is a coincidence that everyone who feels the cord on top has an upward curving penis, etc?

Do you think that people “without a cord” (aka a straight-pointing penis) can just stretch until their skin runs out of stretching room? No, eventually some internal structure will be pulled taut to it’s full length and will feel tight like a cord, aka the “cord.” The reason they don’t think they feel it is the same reason why their penis is straight-pointing, which could mean it’s either situated closer to the center, it could be evenly lengthened on both sides of the structure (most likely the uneven lengthening causes the slight differences in curvature), or could be surrounded by tissue.

Here is one way to look at it logically:

We can stretch something until there is something constraining it from stretching further.
When something is stretched to capacity, and is thus constraining the stretching, it becomes stiff or taut.
Therefore: If there is a limit to how far we can stretch our penis, then something stiff or taut must be constraining it.

You guys here, for some reason, tend to be under the assumption that the taut “cord” that is restricting everyones penis is different in upward-curving and side-curving penises than those in straight-pointing penises. You’re basing this on simplistic, primitive observation and not on any medical or scientific evidence. We have no reason to believe that some penises have a special cord blocking their stretching ability while others do not, all we can say is that the cord is shaped or lengthened differently which accounts for the different variations in curvatures of the penis. Apart from the uneven lengthening the “cords” are completely identical in composition and ability, appear in all penises, and in no way impede or restrain growth any more than they do for anyone else.


Last edited by pooper11 : 11-01-2010 at .

You’re right about the fact that it does not restrain growth on its own, but stretching that cord is probably as effective in lengthening as much stretching as any part of your penis. So why not focus on it after you stop gaining from regular stretches?

As far as it being completely identical in compostion and ability to strech, that’s not right. That’s saying that everyone’s genetic makeup is the same.

Originally Posted by fareah
You’re right about the fact that it does not restrain growth on it’s own, but stretching that cord is probably as effective in lengthening as much stretching as any part of your penis. So why not focus on it after you stop gaining from regular stretches?
As far as it being completely identical in compostion and ability to strech, that’s not right. That’s saying that everyone’s genetic makeup is the same.

Performing regular stretching exercises is in fact stretching the “cord,” because when you perform stretching exercises you are attempting to lengthen whatever it is that is constricting the penis and that is always going to be that “cord.” It might be obvious that more intense stretching exercises would be more effective for everyone.

It is identical in composition the same way that everyones heart is made of the same material, everyone’s eye, everyone’s brain, everyone’s skin, everyone’s muscle, are all made of basically the same materials between each person. I realize that there might be small variations in muscle fiber composition between people (fast or slow twitch), but we cannot tell the composition of such fibers just by looking at the shape of the muscle.

We have no reason to believe that just because you have an upward-curving or side-curving penis that your penis is made from different materials. Just because the “cord” is shorter at the top (upward-curving), or at one of the sides (side-curving), does not make it different in composition than one that is about equal in length at all sides (straight-pointing); this is just natural variation in growth pattern and is completely normal and natural.

Point is why not focus on the cord if your gains have slowed from regular stretching (manual or hanging).

How many people who have noticed their “dorsal thickening”, “septum”, or whatever you want to call it are still having regular length gains?

The reason I started the topic is that many of us who have noticed our septum, noticed that length gains had slowed to a crawl or stopped. It appeared that this “steel cord” was the internal limiter.

If you stretch it and feel the cord, you can tell that the tissues outside of it will stretch and have stretch in them, but the “cord” is limiting further length gains.

I did give accords to the “dorsal thickening” or “septum”, because many of us would have snapped our dorsal veins or dorsal nerve bundle by now if it was not there.

It is apparent that once length is slowed enough to notice your “dorsal thickening” or “septum”, that further length gains will require this “cord” to lengthen. There is no way around it.

Originally Posted by djrobins
How many people who have noticed their “dorsal thickening”, “septum”, or whatever you want to call it are still having regular length gains?

The reason I started the topic is that many of us who have noticed our septum, noticed that length gains had slowed to a crawl or stopped. It appeared that this “steel cord” was the internal limiter.

If you stretch it and feel the cord, you can tell that the tissues outside of it will stretch and have stretch in them, but the “cord” is limiting further length gains.

I did give accords to the “dorsal thickening” or “septum”, because many of us would have snapped our dorsal veins or dorsal nerve bundle by now if it was not there.

It is apparent that once length is slowed enough to notice your “dorsal thickening” or “septum”, that further length gains will require this “cord” to lengthen. There is no way around it.

The main purpose of the cord is to protect the penis from damaging due to stretching and bending.

I do notice that during lower erection level (say 40% and under), the cord is not as tough. I did talk to a big-gainer member and his Bucks fascia is not that tough.

I don’t know if this is true, but does Buck fascia provide the pulling force to give an erection angle? Mine points at least 10 - 11 o’clock during rock hard stage. I find that the cord is very tough, and when I press down my erected unit, you can feel the tension of the cord being bent.

So a possible solution is to stretch out where your erection angle points? Just speculating.

The biggest challenge is the evaluation of “toughness” or dorsal cord is very subjective. Unless a few of us get together to compare toughness, it is hard to say if those “big-gainers” have relatively weaker Buck fascia or not.


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Originally Posted by djrobins
How many people who have noticed their “dorsal thickening”, “septum”, or whatever you want to call it are still having regular length gains?

The reason I started the topic is that many of us who have noticed our septum, noticed that length gains had slowed to a crawl or stopped. It appeared that this “steel cord” was the internal limiter.

If you stretch it and feel the cord, you can tell that the tissues outside of it will stretch and have stretch in them, but the “cord” is limiting further length gains.

I did give accords to the “dorsal thickening” or “septum”, because many of us would have snapped our dorsal veins or dorsal nerve bundle by now if it was not there.

It is apparent that once length is slowed enough to notice your “dorsal thickening” or “septum”, that further length gains will require this “cord” to lengthen. There is no way around it.

My point is that everyone has this “cord” acting as the internal limiter but it is only noticeable when you have an upward-curving or side-curving penis. Do you think people with straight-pointing penises are able to stretch until their skin gives out? No, they are also limited by the “cord.” Everyone’s penis will have material around the “cord” that can still be stretched out, it’s just that if the “cord” is in the middle of your dick (implying even length on all sides, straight-pointing penis) then you will not notice it running along the top.

Originally Posted by fareah
Point is why not focus on the cord if your gains have slowed from regular stretching (manual or hanging).

I have no disagreement with that, if your regular stretching routines are slowing down (as they will with everyone, whether they notice the “cord” or not) then it is time to move on to more intense stretches.

Originally Posted by kubchaser
The main purpose of the cord is to protect the penis from damaging due to stretching and bending.

I do notice that during lower erection level (say 40% and under), the cord is not as tough. I did talk to a big-gainer member and his Bucks fascia is not that tough.

I don’t know if this is true, but does Buck fascia provide the pulling force to give an erection angle? Mine points at least 10 - 11 o’clock during rock hard stage. I find that the cord is very tough, and when I press down my erected unit, you can feel the tension of the cord being bent.

So a possible solution is to stretch out where your erection angle points? Just speculating.

The biggest challenge is the evaluation of “toughness” or dorsal cord is very subjective. Unless a few of us get together to compare toughness, it is hard to say if those “big-gainers” have relatively weaker Buck fascia or not.

There is no such thing as the dorsal cord. What they are referring to is the top part of the corpus cavernosa. It might be noticeable when it is shorter on one side than the other (causing a slight, natural curve). When it is pulled taut, and not engorged with blood, some people may believe it to have a cord like appearance.


Last edited by pooper11 : 11-01-2010 at .

Originally Posted by pooper11
My point is that everyone has this “cord” acting as the internal limiter but it is only noticeable when you have an upward-curving or side-curving penis. Do you think people with straight-pointing penises are able to stretch until their skin gives out? No, they are also limited by the “cord.” Everyone’s penis will have material around the “cord” that can still be stretched out, it’s just that if the “cord” is in the middle of your dick (implying even length on all sides, straight-pointing penis) then you will not notice it running along the top.

I have no disagreement with that, if your regular stretching routines are slowing down (as they will with everyone, whether they notice the “cord” or not) then it is time to move on to more intense stretches.

There is no such thing as the dorsal cord. What they are referring to is the top part of the corpus cavernosa. It might be noticeable when it is shorter on one side than the other (causing a slight, natural curve). When it is pulled taut, and not engorged with blood, some people may believe it to have a cord like appearance.

Agree,

It is not a “cord” at all. The “septum” is the divider in between the two CC’s and when pulled taught, it is a tough fibrous tissues. They also say that the dorsal vein and dorsal nerve bundle have a “fascia” ( bucks fascia ? ) surrounding them. So these tissues when pulled taught are the limiter. When they are tight they appear as a tough “cord”.

For the record, I have one bitch of a cord/septum/ whatever you want to call it and my dick is straight as an arrow

Would it be safe to say that we might be in a better position to be able to attack our length and girth goals simultaneously? Better than someone without the cord?

My logic is that when we stretch/hang/etc the cord restricts our dicks from being stretched to the point that it affects all the tunica surrounding the CC & CS chambers. We are stuck with really solely stretching our Buck’s Fascia and I don’t really see this interfering with girth potential…

Guys???

The urethra tube is in this bundle of tough tissues where calling the septum? What if in some cases this is the limiter?

Originally Posted by james000
For the record, I have one bitch of a cord/septum/ whatever you want to call it and my dick is straight as an arrow

You are the first person I’ve come across who has the cord without some kind of upward curve! :)

Originally Posted by james000
Would it be safe to say that we might be in a better position to be able to attack our length and girth goals simultaneously? Better than someone without the cord?

My logic is that when we stretch/hang/etc the cord restricts our dicks from being stretched to the point that it affects all the tunica surrounding the CC & CS chambers. We are stuck with really solely stretching our Buck’s Fascia and I don’t really see this interfering with girth potential…

I agree that targeting the cord would leave the rest of the penis unharmed and largely unaffected.

Originally Posted by djrobins
Guys???

The urethra tube is in this bundle of tough tissues where calling the septum? What if in some cases this is the limiter?

The urethra tube is not in the ‘septum’, it’s in the CS.

This was an interesting read. My erect gains have been 0 for the past year, despite the fact that I’ve had a lot of flaccid gains. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why.

Most of us who have noticed the “septum” are toward the end of our length gains, at least in the tunica. No one said its the end to length gains for good, its now that the septum is clearly holding it back.

Perhaps there may be a way to gain on an “upward curve” aspect when the septum is not going to budge any further. I just threw this out there.

Most of us believe a dedicated fulcrum hanging regiment at different positions and angles, using heat would get things moving again once the septum has reared its head. I personally have gotten stuck before and putting time into fulcrum hanging ( at least 1hr a day dedicated ) started new gains.

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