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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

I am about to buy/build my first hanger so I can start fulcrum-targeting my Buck’s fascia.
What hanger models would you guys recommend that can tolerate the greater weight requirements of hitting this cord?
I currently use a VacADS so it would make sense to go with a Vac Hanger but I’m concerned that it wouldn’t be able to handle 10,15,20lbs of weight comfortably.

What would you guys suggest? Vac, Bib, Muzzle…?

Also, to confirm: Creating an A-fulcrum would mean to place a dowel UNDER your dick and create the tension on the TOP side of your shaft, correct?
For example, hang while sitting in a chair with a PVC pipe running across your lap with your dick over the pipe..?

Originally Posted by james000
I am about to buy/build my first hanger so I can start fulcrum-targeting my Buck’s fascia.
What hanger models would you guys recommend that can tolerate the greater weight requirements of hitting this cord?
I currently use a VacADS so it would make sense to go with a Vac Hanger but I’m concerned that it wouldn’t be able to handle 10,15,20lbs of weight comfortably.

What would you guys suggest? Vac, Bib, Muzzle…?

Also, to confirm: Creating an A-fulcrum would mean to place a dowel UNDER your dick and create the tension on the TOP side of your shaft, correct?
For example, hang while sitting in a chair with a PVC pipe running across your lap with your dick over the pipe..?

Starting to get into the realm of hanging questions…

I think, not 100% sure though, what you said actually makes a V fulcrum, since, I think, it is the shape of the fulcrum you’re using rather than your penis that determines whether its A or V…Never been sure on that though. I think the best way to target buck’s fascia is to place the fulcum on top of your penis, very difficult, but possible, to accomplish.

Hmm…My understanding of a fulcrum was always to place the fulcrum at the opposite side of what you want to bend/stretch. Kind of like when you break a pencil with your hands, you create the stress from underneath but the fracture occurs at the top because that is the area under the greatest strain. When you wrap an item around another object (like our penis around a dowel), the portion farthest from the dowel must travel a greater distance and therefore is stressed more. So since our Buck’s is on top of the shaft, I would guess we’d want to place the dowel underneath to stress the top.

I just checked the stretch guides and videos on this site and it does look like the V is with the fulcrum on top of the penis and the A/Inverted V is with it underneath.
Hah, it is kind of a complex concept

Ah ok, I’ve never looked at the vids.

While with a pencil that may be true, I’ve always suspected it might not be the same for the penis, (when targeting buck’s facsia) since there’d be all the spongey soft tissue in between which might cushion the cord so that it won’t get the high amount of stress you were talking about. Obviously a pencil doesn’t have this cushioning. Does that make sense?

It does make sense. I think for my routine I will incorporate A and V equally as to cover all my bases.

I have been doing V stretch for a while now and am realizing I need to incorporate some A. What I have been doing for V is connect 2 ends of a string to some weights so it creates a big loop. I have some tube cushioning slipped over the string and keep it placed at the top of the loop, opposite the weights. Then I rest that string/cushion on top of my shaft (so my penis is through the loop) and then pull my dick straight out and stand up so the weights are lifted off the floor. You can easily shift the string up and down the shaft in multiple places and this gives you a good and easy V fulcrum right on your Bucks fascia.

So which Hanger type do you think is best?

I couldn’t say. The only type of hanger I’ve been able to use is the vac hanger, everything else I’ve tried has been unbearably uncomfortable but I’ve never used the bib and I’m very sensitive.

Thanks for posting this Steelfire. I’m interested in trying a routine like that.

Originally Posted by Steelfire
I have this Dorsal thickening/septum shit as well but lately, I have gained in bpfsl almost 0,5”! What I have done is to ease down on the stretch exercises to the following simple and also fast routine:

- 2 minutes warm-up using hot wrap
- 30 seconds stretch in 4 directions, 5 seconds rest between the directions (newbie) = total of 2 minutes and 20 seconds
- V-stretch on three locations of the penis (base, mid and top), 20 seconds each with a 10 seconds break between. Repeat two times. = 3 minutes
- 2 minutes warm-down using hot wrap

I shortened down the routine because I was short of time and the entire PE above takes only 10 minutes (two days on, one day off). I altered this with clamping about one time per week.

I noticed very little or no length gains at all and considered this more of a maintenance routine. The result is that before I entered this routine, the bpfsl was more or less exactly the same as bpel (for me 7,28”) while now, my bpel is still 7,28” but bpfsl is 7,75”, almost 0.5” longer. EQ is still high and I am due to several reason going for clamping from now and probably many months to come.

So perhaps less is more to not toughen up the dorsal septum? If you have not spotted that thread, I recommend you to read it:
Is LESS more, or is MORE more?


Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.

What size dowel are you guys using? I was thinking about heading to Lowes and grabbing some different size PVC.

Originally Posted by james000
I am about to buy/build my first hanger so I can start fulcrum-targeting my Buck’s fascia.
What hanger models would you guys recommend that can tolerate the greater weight requirements of hitting this cord?
I currently use a VacADS so it would make sense to go with a Vac Hanger but I’m concerned that it wouldn’t be able to handle 10,15,20lbs of weight comfortably.

What would you guys suggest? Vac, Bib, Muzzle…?

Also, to confirm: Creating an A-fulcrum would mean to place a dowel UNDER your dick and create the tension on the TOP side of your shaft, correct?
For example, hang while sitting in a chair with a PVC pipe running across your lap with your dick over the pipe..?

.25 fatpad?

Originally Posted by james000
What size dowel are you guys using? I was thinking about heading to Lowes and grabbing some different size PVC.

james000, I happened to have some 3/4”, 1”, and 1 1/4” PVC pipe on hand, so I tried all three and decided that the 1” PVC pipe was the most comfortable for me. I’m about 6” BPFSL. Hope this helps you.

This is a very valuable thread. I have been reading many anecdotal experiences on here from various members. There seems to be a great divide between those who achieve “quick length gains”, and those who struggle a long time before a minimal length gain is noticeable.

I am inclined to agree with Buck’s fascia (BF) theory. Perhaps I am biased, but it seems like those with less pronounced Buck’s fascia is able to achieve quicker length gains by stretching and hanging. Those who started off with pronounced Bucks’ fascia (usually with upward curve penises) have a hard time achieving length gains, and yet girth gains are much easier to achieve.

I am just making an assumption from what I have read on this forum. It seems to me that Buck’s fascia’s main function is to protect the veins, nerves (and contribute to the shape of an erected penis). So when stretching occurs, the stress in our penis triggers our body to produce more Bucks’ fascia to help protect the veins and nerves. For those who start with thicker BF, stretching only straight out or down will only yield minimal ligs gains (if lucky), and very very tiny tunica length (as BF restricts further extension). On the other hand, those who start with little BF, the limiting force is minimal, and hence length gains is easier to achieve until a point where BF catches up to restrict further stretching.

Another aspect of BF is that strong distress of penis tends to promote the growth of BF (thickening of BF as some members called it). So will it make sense as to why those who are on this so-called “minimalistic routines” can achieve micro incremental gains cuz BF is not greatly distressed to a point where BF thickens faster than the length gains from very little stretch?

One thing for sure is that everyone’s penis is different. Some may have more developed BF prior to PE, some have less thickening of BF, and many have developed much thicker/stronger BF AFTER PE. But over time, it seems that BF tends to grow to a point where straight down/out stretches will no longer yield gains.

It sure pays to study and read the forum before jumping into PE. If I had known that, I might have started with a very minimal short routine, but a bit more sessions throughout the day. And then once the gains plateau, then implement fulcrum hanging as an alternative to target and length BF.

Last note, it does make sense why those with stronger and thicker BF tend to gain “girth” easier as continuous distress of BF yields to expansion and thickening.

I apologize for not using a lot of medical terms. I just want to keep my post simple to read.

Thanks!

PS: I agree with someone on this post that newbies with tough BF are better off starting fulcrum hanging (light weigh of course) to target BF and ligs. Straight down/out doesn’t yield much length gains (in fact, it may further distress penis to create an even THICKER BF).


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(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

I just had an observation.

After taking a leak, I grabbed my penis and slowly and lightly stretched out. My unit was in complete flaccid stage (but only for 5 seconds.. then I started to get semi). What is frustrating is that, after my first stretch, my penis started to feel more firm.. a semi-firm.. then when I tried to stretch again, the Bucks Fascia seems to thicken to prevent further stretch.

I could feel the upper thick lining preventing the stretch.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

Do you think an ADS (all day stretcher) is even effective for people with Buck’s fascia?
I do my fulcrum hangs in the morning and then wear the ADS all day. I’m just thinking: I get how an ADS would be beneficial for those guys that can stretch their units out thin like a pencil and have the penis heal in that condition. But, for us with the cord we have a limited length we can stretch out.

Should I even bother with my ADS?

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