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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
So what happens to this piece of kevlar cord when you turtle up?


It remains there of course, but not necessarily you would be able to detect it.
“Apart from Peyronie’s Disease, there are other causes of penile curvature and deformity. Many of these are congenital (present from birth). Some are associated with conditions of the urethra. Some are not.

In the latter situation, the penis appears absolutely normal in the flaccid (non-erect) state. “
http://www.andrology.com/peyroniesdisease.htm

Again, I’m trying to understand what these guys are reporting when speaking of this issue, so they are the one who should answer the question.

Originally Posted by marinera
Again, I’m trying to understand what these guys are reporting when speaking of this issue, so they are the one who should answer the question.

I would be willing to answer or check for anything you guys are curious about. I am completely sure that I have this chord, and it seems to be exactly as MM described it.

I do not know enough about the anatomy to give any comment about these hypotheses.

Regarding flaccid state, ThunderSS, I should offer one comment. Since I began PE, the gap between EL and FL has decreased. This could possibly be a cause for that? I am not sure. I can feel the chord when it is flaccid and it has shrunk in length compared to when it is stretched.

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
Seems to me that this mysterious thing is elastic and should be able to be stretched further.

The thing is, ThunderSS, it really does feel like a steel chord when the penis is palpated and stretched to its fullest - nothing like the other tissue (CC or CS) would feel when fully stretched, even if the chord was not the limiting factor. It isn’t malleable - it’s very firm in nature. IronAddict’s descriptions here are right on to what I feel.

As someone said, we clearly can’t measure to see if it stretches a few mm, but since the flaccid chord is shorter than the stretched chord, that should be irrelevant given that we now know it does stretch. I think the issue that I might be experiencing is that it may not experience creep as much as the other tissue? I am also not sure about this. At the very least, it is much firmer/less malleable compared to other limiting factors.

I don’t think you have the cord issue then, LV. What happens when you clamp?

It also could really help if anybody who think has this issue could make a draw of their penis.

Originally Posted by marinera
I don’t think you have the cord issue then, LV. What happens when you clamp?

It also could really help if anybody who think has this issue could make a draw of their penis.

Why do you not think so? I am not sure what you mean, marinera.

My situation is identical to the descriptions that IA and MM have provided.

MM is speaking about dorsal thickening. Dorsal side of tunica is thicker than ventral side. In some guys, it can be (or become) so thick and strong that can be felt very hard to stretch, but actually it should not be impossible to stretch it with the appropriate time and force. Also, when flaccid the region of DT shouldn’t feel that much different than other parts of the penis.

What some other people are reporting is a cord that feels not stretchable at all, inelastic; it is placed in the middle of the penis, along the septum, and goes from the base to the top.It prevents any length gains (have you had length gains?). So I supposed this cord could be due to abnormal collagen deposition - if this is true, probably you would notice an upward curvature also, and it should feel hard at the touch even when your penis is flaccid.

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Originally Posted by marinera
What some other people are reporting is a cord that feels not stretchable at all, inelastic; it is placed in the middle of the penis, along the septum, and goes from the base to the top.It prevents any length gains (have you had length gains?). So I supposed this cord could be due to abnormal collagen deposition - if this is true, probably you would notice an upward curvature also, and it should feel hard at the touch even when your penis is flaccid.

Sorry if you’ve done this already, but could you please provide a link to a post that describes the situation above.


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Originally Posted by marinera
What some other people are reporting is a cord that feels not stretchable at all, inelastic; it is placed in the middle of the penis, along the septum, and goes from the base to the top.It prevents any length gains (have you had length gains?). So I supposed this cord could be due to abnormal collagen deposition - if this is true, probably you would notice an upward curvature also, and it should feel hard at the touch even when your penis is flaccid.

This is accurate. I had approximately 0.65 of length gains during the last 6 months, and I believe this was after I noticed the unusually thick penis while stretched.

However, I only carefully noted the cause of the thickness after seeing this thread. The chord is noticeable through palpation while flaccid, although much less so than while stretched. The chord is at all times extremely firm and is the only part of the penis that is taut when I take a BPSFL measure. As I said, it is approximately 0.5 inches in thickness and lies in the middle of the top of the penis (septum area of dorsal side between the two CC).

I suppose that my length gains through water pumping would have occurred after this formed, since I noticed the girthy stretched length prior to the gains. However, this girthy stretched length attribute has increased recently, so I am not sure if that really is an indication that I can grow more length.

I am completely sure of the existence of this thick, hard chord through large amounts of palpation while reading this thread, haha.

EDIT: One more thing. Upward curvature is one of the MAIN effects of my year of clamping. So, maybe this steel chord thickening, as well as the curvature, occurred due to the same stimulus.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Sorry if you’ve done this already, but could you please provide a link to a post that describes the situation above.

I think both me and IA have this situation, as well as the OP.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
I think both me and IA have this situation, as well as the OP.

Are you sure? Is there an abnormal collagen deposition that feels hard to the touch even when your penis is flaccid?


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Sure.
marinera - Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by TrouserWhale
…. It’s like a cable inside a sock. It doesn’t matter how much the sock stretches, once the cord reaches max length that’s it. Stretching up to this point is easy but stops dead at max. With serious force, it will not budge 1mm past it’s max. I literally feel tugging on the anus, but the cord itself will not stretch.
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TrouserWhale - Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

As a side note I was sharing your same belief that it wasn’t anything else than DT:
marinera - Penis extenders & septum

The way those guys keep insisting it was something else etc. lead me to suppose it could be something else. Maybe Peyronie’ disease, maybe scar tissue due to traumatic events (perhaps too aggressive PE associated with predisposition to excessive collagenous production in wound healing).

The only thing I felt and exclude right now is that it can be a tendon or any other bodypart that other people don’t have, because it would be like having three eyes, if it’s clear what I mean.

But fibrotic tissue inside penis ain’t such rare phenomenon.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Are you sure? Is there an abnormal collagen deposition that feels hard to the touch even when your penis is flaccid?

Someone could PM the OP and IA to post. From what I read in their posts they seem to have the same thing I have.

It’s not chunky, by the way…or at least not clearly. It feels like a somewhat smooth chord beginning at the farther palpable point near the base and extending to the glans. It is hard to the touch when flaccid, at least harder than the CC, from what I can tell (through palpating)…though I am not as sure about this.

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