Just some thoughts from Goingdeeper

Hey fellas,

I have not been around the site much because I have been out the country the last 5 months and also been very busy with other things. For the new guys that don’t know me, you can check out my post “goingdeeps quest for growth” in the progress report section. I really have been on and off with PE over the last year or so just trying out different techniques as I read about them. For people that don’t know, I have grown from 5.77L x 3.88G to 8x5. Though I do not have a monster, I have had fairly decent gains..most of them coming over a 16 month period when i was very much into PE and keeping up with my routine. I am writing because I am going to finally finish this quest for growth and go for my final goal of 9x6. I have learned alot from this board and its predecessors over the years and I feel obligated to share some of the things that I have learned.

For one I would like to discuss the importance of penis size. It is the factor that brings us all here. Being someone who started with a small penis I can give some different perspectives. For anyone who thinks that penis size is not important in the sexual experience, I beg to differ. I think that being less than 4.5 inches in girth really makes in very difficult to provide enough stimulation. More girth will produce more friction period;however, there is a point where excessive girth can cause discomfort….though I do not think that many of us are worried about this issue yet. In retrospect, I can only imagine that I was not the best sexual experience of women that I had been with when i was a smaller size. Though I had learned some techniques and had staying power(alot had to do with lack of friction); I now can see by the reactions I get that I just did not have enough penis to really put a woman over the tap. With the increase and length and girth, I have noticed ever increasing responses like squirming, heavy panting, sometimes screaming that I just never had gotten before. WIth my previous starting size, I did have a women who had vaginal orgasms from intercourse, but it had much more with them being comfortable with their sexuality than anything I was doing. I just poked them long enough to get them off. I will say that starting small give you an advantage though. You learn how to work with what you have. Guys with large penises sometimes take it from granted or just poke the hell out of women and do not learn technique. Though I have never gotten a you are the biggest dick in the world comment, I consistently get you are the best lever I have ever had..barnone. I have actually had women thank me for the sex or say..what planet did you come from…but that come from learning techniques which is a different story. I guess the point of this is….don’t be intimidated by large penises..a large gun means nothing if a person does not know how to shoot…make your gun gentleman..but do not forget to learn how to shoot it.

So in regards to being satisfying in the bed… I think that for a majority of women there is a minimum amount you need to be satisfying. With this minimum amount, you can use technique to make up for the lack of size and be able to satisfy most women. But for me, an increase in size has not only made me more secure but it just provides more friction period. Also, I have never had to even remotely struggle with entry and on few occassions I needed help from the girl. I am looking forward to more of this when i hit 6 inches of girth.

Although I’ve tried practically every PE technique known to man and purchased all the devices, there is one thing that has worked great for me: Hanging.

I have to thank BIB for his hanging device and support because I know I wouldn’t have had the gains I have had without his support. But now I want to give some basic hanging advice to people who are trying hanging. I will not go into too much detail, but I will expound upon the things that definately worked for me. I can directly attribute my best hanging gains to a few things.

Although I always produced some modest gains with hanging, I noticed that when I learned to really continue to hang in the fatigued state I produced really rapid gains. This is not my idea at all..BIB and other talked about this alot. It took a while for me to figure it out. But once I had fatigue..i would try to put in three or four more sets to really stress the ligs. Also, during this period, I was hanging am and pm, and applying an all day stretcher as much as I could. When I consistently applied this to my routine, as well as hanging with the heaviest weight i could handle absent of pain, I had huge monthly gains. The most important thing is to consistently hit the ligs..really hammer away at them. Find the next limiting factor(time, weight, particular area) and hammer away at it on a consistent basis. You will gain.

Although I am still a light weight in terms of girth, but only a few things have worked for me. If I do not use wet heat before my routine, I will not gain. Because I am retarded, I took me over three years to figure this out. Using heat and then really squeezing and jelging as hard as I can(but carefully monitoring my penis) is the only thing that worked for me. So all those years i was not gaining because I was not using enough effort. For me it was the equivalent of trying to gain mass by going to the gym and lifting light weights…it was just not effective. I really think that clamping in conjuction with pumping is promising. I have had great temporary gains, but as I have said..i have been very busy travelling. When soaked my penis in hot water for 5 minutes, clamped for 20 minutes, and pumped for 20 minutes…that temporary gains were massive. I will develop a girth routine with this in mind next time.

I know this is not the most detailed thing(have go get back to work!), but I guess I just wanted to illustrate to some of the newbies that you can really start off with something small and move up in the size department. I look forward to being back and starting my progress reports again. There seems to be a lot of new faces around here now…i do not recognize many of the names.

Hey goingdeeper… good to see you posting again!

Great post - a lot of us “old vets” including myself seem to be getting back in the saddle this month. I’ll be sure to follow your progress.

Good luck

Size

goingdeeper…

awesome post…

I thought I was the only one with really small girth. I love these kind of posts. Your gains give me inspiration and I need a lot of it.

Thanks.

Good post man. It really is important to hit fatigue, and also to not be afraid to squeeze your dick hard when doing girth (provided you are conditioned). I am certain this is why some of the guys have problems gaining.

Great to hear from you again GD.

Thanks. I’m glad to be back. I am going to work on a nice routine and get moving towards my final goal.

Thanks for your insight goingdeeper.

You got some nice gains, I must say!

Great post! How long did you hang and jelq a day/week? Did you lose any gains during the time you took off?

Its great to have a vet share their experience and insights. Thanks! Good luck with your final goals push!

Welcome back.

Great post! How long did you hang and jelq a day/week? Did you lose any gains during the time you took off?>>

I kept a fairly accurate log in my progress report “goingdeep’s quest for growth”. I hours logged, varied from day to day, but between 1 and 2 hours a day I suppose. No. I have not lost any of my gains.

Hey Bro

Good to hear from you and your post is excellent and rings true. Your observations are also the same as mine with penis size and girls reactions. I also agree that being small/regular and than becoming big really does give you a advantage as far as technique with naturally big guys.

Thanks for the post Goingdeeper!

I always read and enjoy these posts by wets and good gainers.

I have 3 questions, regarding reaching the fatigued state while hanging and heat while hanging

1. Where is the fatigue felt; is it in the abdominal area or further down the shaft?
2. For how long does the fatigue remain; only the duration of the set or does it remain after a hanging session?
3. Do you have an opinion about the importance of heat during hanging?

I know that some might say I should hit the search bottom instead of asking. I have done that already and got a very unclear picture. Seeing your major gains makes me want get a straight answer from you.

As for my self I’m one month into hanging and slowly learning. I find there is a somewhat steep learning curve, especially regarding hanger settings and wrapping

Best regards from Stretch-man

Incidentally this is my first post

>Ihave 3 questions, regarding reaching the fatigued state while hanging and heat while hanging

1. Where is the fatigue felt; is it in the abdominal area or further down the shaft?
2. For how long does the fatigue remain; only the duration of the set or does it remain after a hanging session?
3. Do you have an opinion about the importance of heat during hanging?>

The area of fatigue depends on the target areas. The lower you hang(BTC), you will feel it in your ligs. If you hang in higher positions, like over the shoulder, you will feel the fatigue along your shaft. I generally hung in multiple positions so my entire penis usually was fatigued.

The fatigued feeling varied depending on how much longer I attacked. The longer I felt the fatigue and continue to hit it to failure was the best. Then I would rest for a few days so that I could heal, but I would try to stay in an all day stretcher to heal fully entended. WHen you hit fatigue, just drop the weight. Hang a set and attach more, then you will probably need to drop the weight more. Typically if I was hanging sets at 15 pounds for twenty minutes ..i would stop when I got down to 5 pounds and I could not take it for more than ten minutes. That meant I was fully fatigued.

I never used heat during hanging. I would warm up before starting to avoid injury. Being that heat makes connective tissue more elastic, I could only see it helping during hanging, but i never tried it.

Yes there is a learning curve. Though once you get it, it is the easiest form of PE.