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JRE 1069 PE discussion

JRE 1069 PE discussion

I listen to the Joe Rogan Experience and in episode # 1069 he talks with Ben Greenfield about some articles he did for men’s health about advanced PE procedures he’s had done like soundwave therapy, light therapy, PRP + stem-cell injections and even gas station dick pills (basically off brand tadafinil mixed with other stuff). The articles he wrote, a link to the podcast + a link to a highlight reel are below

https://www.menshealth.com/author/ben-greenfield

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I’ve kinda heard about light therapy as well as people using heat lamps while pumping for more gains, but the way he rants and raves about the stem-cell injections he got in florida makes me really curious. What would happen if you got something like PRP microneedling done and then stuck to a strict pumping routine? There’s a place in my city that does the same procedure to hands and face for $500 per, 1100 for 3 sessions. It will certainly cost extra to go below the belt, but if the results are as good as the reviews I’d consider it.

I also know for a fact that certain wavelengths of light can affect us in different ways, I have an app that changes the colour temperature of my screen from cold to warm when the sun goes down to help keep my circadian rhythm in check. I’ve also used a SAD-light to help with seasonal affective disorder or just to make myself feel better when I’ve spent too much time indoors and start to feel blue. I even have an electric back massager with IR LED’s that “help aid blood flow and increase collagen production”. I’ve even seen threads where heat lamps are used to heat the water / cylinder / STJ even more effectively than a heat pack. The article mentions using light between 600 and 950nm and it’s hard to find light therapy devices for under $100. Meanwhile I found out that LED grow lights for indoor gardening operate with the same wave lengths and are much cheaper. Just thinking of having my STJ filled with warm water hooked up to a brake bleed pump wrapped in LED plant grow strip lights makes me think I should wear a lab coat and safety goggles while conducting scientific experiments of this caliber.

He also mentioned the soundtherapy, which basically sounds like slathering your dick and balls with lidocaine and going to town with a “back massager” on the highest setting for 20 mins. Reported improved EQ for a month, but taken with a grain of salt. To my knowledge he did a bunch of stuff at once so who’s to tell whats working and whats not

I just wanted to share this with the crowd, maybe someone has tried using heat lamps / grow lamps and has a suggestion? I doubt the people here have tried injections but if you have I’d love to hear it. Is anyone out here sticking their pecker in a subwoofer and playing dubstep from 2014? I wanna read about the weird stuff that isn’t Hangers / Jelquing / pumping / Traction

I know IR is a long time PE staple, but I wonder how much more effective the specific wavelength he mentioned is. It’d be interesting to have some comparative results with people supplementing their newbie routines, one group uses IR and the other uses the new age ball lights.

The thing that grabbed my attention was the stem cell stuff. I’ve heard of priapus shots where doctors take blood out and shoot it into your junk which seem iffy at best and have mixed results from what I’ve read. The stem cell injection on the other hand seems promising… If I had the means this would be one more of the more surgical methods I’d actually look into.


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I heard a 10 minute segment from this episode that covered exactly this material.

The stem cell injections are certainly interesting and about the only thing that I think could actually make your penis bigger.

My hypothesis is that if combined with pre-trauma by working out strenuously beforehand, and maybe some post-injection expansion via low pressure extended time pumping, it could maximize gains.

If the stem cell injections were scheduled on a regular basis, and combined with PE exercises, I think there could be some very significant gains…

I dunno, I’m just thinking out loud. This episode certainly made me think and sparked some ideas.
Too bad it’s all so expensive and you can’t do it at home.

But man, if we could isolate stem cells from our fat at home and begin experimenting…


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2016: BPEL: 6.25in EG: 5.25in

NOW (11/2017): BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

Originally Posted by richardfitswell
My hypothesis is that if combined with pre-trauma by working out strenuously beforehand, and maybe some post-injection expansion via low pressure extended time pumping, it could maximize gains.

This could be very intriguing. The first thing that popped into my head reading this post was following an IPR kind of schedule and doing a 2 week routine of the heaviest sets you can do without chronic fatigue, and then during the P or R phase go for an injection. Maybe this is the future of cementing gains hahahah.

If given the chance I’d probably take one for the team and give the injection treatment a shot, but doing it on a regular basis seems like it might be overkill.


Started under 6", now I'm over 7" and going for 8"

Patiently waiting...

Velhungs 2018 journey

There are a few threads on here about the wave therapy. It is growing, there is a place by me now offering it. The guys that have done it and commented here y’all about how strong their erections are After. It’s a series of treatments and helps to perform maintenance treatments every so often after. It more or less breaks down the “plaque” that builds up in the vessels and causes poor EQ, while enlarging the vessels due to the increased blood flow. Allowing weections to come easier and “rage”. I’m really wanting to have it done. But, I’d like to get a year or 2 of PE behind me. Then, have wave therapy and PRP done once my gains have slowed, that would get me to the maximum my unit will grow I feel and give me my final goal to maintain.


Starting 10/09/17: BPEL 7” & MSEG 4.75”

Current 12/18/17: 7 1/2" BPEL & 5" MSEG

Goal: BPEL 9” & MSEG 6”

I poked my head in here and y’all are touching on a couple of things that intrigue me a little while back. I speak on at least the PRP shot and sound therapy I think in this entry: Master Plan for Optimum Gains (theoretical)

All of that said, I really respect Joe Rogan. His brain is intimidating. It shows a thought pattern outside of our community echo chamber and fresh inspiration is always good.

I don’t see him on board with PE4F but riding the edge of tech for low-risk and possible high-reward enlargement? That’s what the resources of being a minor celebrity can get you.


Now: 9.25" BPEL x 6.18" MSEG as of 8/9/2018 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My current PE4F pumping project and my balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *9* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I poked my head in here and y’all are touching on a couple of things that intrigue me a little while back. I speak on at least the PRP shot and sound therapy I think in this entry: Master Plan for Optimum Gains (theoretical)

All of that said, I really respect Joe Rogan. His brain is intimidating. It shows a thought pattern outside of our community echo chamber and fresh inspiration is always good.

I don’t see him on board with PE4F but riding the edge of tech for low-risk and possible high-reward enlargement? That’s what the resources of being a minor celebrity can get you.

I totally agree with you. I’d love to have a several hour long conversation with him while we take turns hitting a bong :D

I find a lot in common with the way his brain works and we are fascinated by similar things such as scientific and anthropological discoveries, psychedelics and life extension.

Love his podcast.


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2016: BPEL: 6.25in EG: 5.25in

NOW (11/2017): BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

Fascinating stuff! Thank you for sharing Morty and to those who have added to this thread. I can see my PE journey heading in new directions already!!


Aug 2015 - 7.0 x 5.25

May 2018 - 8.8 x 5.8

I just nailed an interview at a place that sells grow lights and bongs. If I get a good discount I’ll buy one and try it out

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