Well, a little over 2 weeks into consistent HARD AI streatches, and I have had lig pops 2 times. Unf*cking believable. The first, a big one, was in a public stall. The second, a week later, was a weird double pop. 2 years of PEing and I have only had one pop up until now.
Happy, happy, joy, joy……
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I thought you weren’t supposed to pull hard during AI. I was under the impression JAIs were just 2 second quick light stretches where you pull just enough to slightly feel a stretch, and that anything more was counterproductive..
What happens when a lig pops by the way?
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Originally posted by j384 I thought you weren't supposed to pull hard during AI. I was under the impression JAIs were just 2 second quick light stretches where you pull just enough to slightly feel a stretch, and that anything more was counterproductive..
JAIs should be somewhat light (not pulling as hard as you can), but you should stretch to the point when your PC doesn’t flex yet (reflex - try pulling up and you'll feel the flex). That stretching power is different to everyone. I also believe that you can actually stretch harder if you can keep the PC muscle relaxed.
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Originally posted by Johan I also believe that you can actually stretch harder if you can keep the PC muscle relaxed.
Ligs “pop”? That sounds bad to me. Is there an actual popping sound? What about pain? Is it even good to try to “stretch” ligaments?
I almost always stretch up when I stretch. I do all other directions as well, but is stretching upwards a waste of time?
I’d like to give JAI’s a try, but I don’t like the idea of something “popping” in my groin.
Prickle, do a search for lig pops. I would post some links for you but I am a lazy bastard. Actually, I am just to damn busy this semester. It is one weird feeling….pop! No sound and no pain. Even though I had read all about them the first time I (finally) had one I almost sh*t a brick “I broke my dick!!” Most of the guys consider it a very good sign.
I do not pull past comfort; however, I have found my willie can take quite a strong pull. In fact, the thing that limits my pull strength is fear rather than discomfort.
I am a very hard gainer; also, In my hanging days I hung over 20lbs. Do both of these figure in? I don’t know. Any other heavy hangers doing AI’s and if so what is your comfort zone like.
Edit: Oh yeah, I also keep everything down their relaxed. And what the hell is up with all these compound sentences in my posts all of a sudden?
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JAI's While Jelqing
Wouldn’t the end of each jelq rep be a sort of JAI stretch? Especially if you hold it for a couple of seconds after each jelq?
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Originally posted by Prickle Wouldn't the end of each jelq rep be a sort of JAI stretch? Especially if you hold it for a couple of seconds after each jelq?
Lately I’ve been noticing that when I jelq, I can take longer strokes… like there’s now more dick than before. I guess I am getting results. I always hold the end of each jelq stroke for a couple seconds… mostly for the engorgement of the glans, but also to stretch. I think there’s something to that. I’ve been gaining length faster than girth, but now with the addition of squeezes, I think more will be goin’ on down there. I’ll definitely let you all know.
I just want to say thanks Joahn for this exercise. I have been PEing over three weeks and haven’t experience any sort of lig sore. I just did the JAI’s last night for about 5 minutes and today my ligs are just really sore. A good sore. With this exercise I can reach my goal really fast. thanks again.
Originally posted by Prickle Lately I've been noticing that when I jelq, I can take longer strokes… like there's now more dick than before. I guess I am getting results. I always hold the end of each jelq stroke for a couple seconds… mostly for the engorgement of the glans, but also to stretch. I think there's something to that. I've been gaining length faster than girth, but now with the addition of squeezes, I think more will be goin' on down there. I'll definitely let you all know.
Prickle, I’m also doing what you described. Each stroke lasts about 3-4 seconds. At the end of the stroke I give a 2 second stretch. Let’s see how it goes from there.
Johan are you or anyone else still doing this and are you still getting good results?
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Question / observation from a soon to be 3-month newbie:
I didn’t remember the JAI-video correctly, and misunderstood the part shown placing the forefinger and middlefinger by the base (see the video) - also I didn’t have time to read and remember, so when I first tried them out I got them all wrong. But it seems to be not an entirely bad misunderstanding, here’s what I did:
I place forefinger and middlefinger in a V-sign over the base with my left hand (switch hands as you want) and with the right hand pull up a little skin along the shaft. Then I press down around the base and stretch my unit with a OK-grip just under the glans. Now what then happens (to me at least) is that I feel tissue connected to my shaft and connected to my pubic area wanting to “lift” the fingers on my left hand - I take it that these are the ligs? The harder the pull, the harder I need to press against my base to keep them down. Now if I don’t do the V-sign against my base, I can see the tissue “lift” the skin, and if I then do the V-sign again I feel that the tissue is not part of the shaft itself, since it connects off to the side. I kind have to readjust the V-sign abit to get this exercise right, to feel that I am keeping the tissue taut. If I don’t pull up a little extra skin on my shaft before locking down the V-sign, stretching seems to target the skin between the glans and shaft, which is not comfortable since I am circumsized.
Since I misunderstood the entire scheme I’ve done static stretches in this fashion on and off for 2 weeks now, and it seems to me now that if I stretch without the V-sign, I can feel the shaft itself being pulled from the base - no ligs (?) involved (this is slightly downwards) and I can then strecth my unit approx 1/4 inch longer than when I hold the V-sign against the base and keep the ligs taut. Also it feel as if I’m slowly pulling my dick out of the pubic bone, so to speak.
My understanding - correct me here - is that by keeping the V-sign pressure to the sides of the base (or just at the top of the shaft for stretching down, or at either side for stretchin sideways) I isolate the ligs (this tissue must be the ligs?). And this would then be beneficial, since one could more easily work first the ligs, then the shaft itself?
Although I’ve only done this a short time (and consider replacing it with JAI or combine it with the JAI) I still get the impression that I can just kind of pull my flaccid unit out an inch or so and it kind of stays in that elongated state at least for a while (no real scientific observations done). So flaccid lenght seems to be improved a little, and as for the actual stretching it simply feels more efficient.
Comments gratefully accepted.
- starting at 14,5 cm ebpl (although I have distinct memories of 15+ in younger years) - currently at ~16 - target was 17,5 (7”), currently under reconsideration
I will try this method and lets see if i can break the platue.