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Guys, pretty cool. So many of you have chimed in.

I think I have already mentioned it above: I do not have a permanent internet access.
Ok, at work I have one, but there it is a little bit too dangerous. :-) I don’t know how red I would become if I answered to a post on Thunders and one of my collegues would watch me over my shoulders. :-) Maybe I would say PE is the abbreviation for “Pacistanian Elephants” and I work for the local zoo (-Voluntarily of course - ) and I have to orangize food for our new elephant baby! :-)
But now, I have a bit more time, so I am going to list things a bit more in detail.

I think it was “Philadelph” who asked the question concerning the number of rest days when you hang.
This Thread was started from my side to discuss this question for jelquing. But, as I also have, besides jelquing, a lot of experience in hanging - though I did and still do a lot of mistakes during all my hang routines and sessions - I can say that rest days are important. But…
… when I was hanging, I experienced the following things:
I started with 14 lbs. Straight Out. Did not become sore any longer after 2 or three weeks. Than I went to 17lbs. Did become enormously sore. BUT: I had to take five days off, after a 14 days-2h per day-routine, due to problems with the skin.
Then, started again with 14 lbs, did not become sore any more after 2 days. Went directly to 17 lbs. Became sore for a couple of days, but then this also vanished. Became frightened, because I knew I have to increase the weight even more, but for me 20 lbs was the absolute maximum. More, for sure, I could not stand. Not because my dick would not have been able to stand it, but the skin / tissue. Because of the increased slipping tendency and the high squeezing degree of you hanger. - By the way I was using a normal Bib hanger. - But, nevertheless, I went up to 19 lbs. Did a Kind of shock routine. That means I hang 20 minutes with 19 lbs. Then 17 lbs and the last 30 or 45 minutes 14 lbs. Soreness: I can say that I felt less sore with this routine than with my beginning-17 lbs-routine, where I had to take a week or so off.
So, my personal conclusion here: Short pauses, more than 1, 2 or 3 days decreased for me the feelings of soreness. So I did not become the confirmation every day from my dick, that I have done a good work-out.
Possible solution for me: Take off a month or even 6 weeks off to “discharge” completely my dick, and avoid then taking breaks.

Actually, I had planned to do this. But then I found these cool videos on Thunders from “Gandolf” which encouraged me to jelq again. I thought it would also be very helpful for the shape of my dick, as it was affected pretty much by my bizarre hanging techniques.
What I learned from Bib, and from this video on Thunders describing a correct wrapping, was the fact that I used too much wrap. Now, I really think it was completely crazy: I used 25 x 2.5 inch of Thereaband, and the same amount of cloth (jogging trouser), wrapped underneath. That is a hell of a lot, isn’t it? (Perhaps with a correct wrapping technique I will hang with less discomfort at even higher weight.)
Maybe, I will go back to hanging, or at least implement it in my jelquing routine. But hanging, up till now, did not show me the results that I looked / look for. But the last that dies is hope.

So for now, I use jelquing to PE. I principally do horses and plumped bents. Yes, I know, they might be dangerous, but normal strokes, no matter how intense they are, do not turn my fella into a worked-out shape. I mean this worked-out shape is especially important for your mind: If you do not see a good worked-out dick after your routine, then this simply tells your mind that you have done nothing. My experience!

How would I describe a worked-out shape after a good jelq session? - From the base to 0.5 inch behind the head your shaft looks pumped up. Then, the next 0.5 inch represent a big donut. Till to the bottom of the head. Your head itself, looks swollen. Jelquers, do you confirm this?
Also, as it has been already mentioned in a post from “Lordbase” above, after your jelq routine your dick has almost its erect length. This, I can confirm. But the length goes back very quickly. As your dick looks very pumped up, = thick, this shortening can look dramatically. I think it is like when you stretch a rubber band. In the moment when you release it, it retracts or retreats. I don’t know the English word for it, but I think you know what I mean. Question here: Is this ok, or does it come from overworking?

Oh, I have forgotten to mention the time that I dedicate currently to PE: 1 1/2 hours per day, two on and one off. Maybe I will go to 3 on and two off. 1 1/2 hours, because a daily 20 min or 30 min jelq session would not turn my weenie into a good worked-out status. My experience! Anybody else who invests so much time in jelqing?

Rest days or pauses: As I wrote it in the posts above: Before, let’s say during the last couple of weeks, I did not take any days off. With the consequence that it became harder and harder each day to push my fella into a worked-out status. A one day break has already made my dick softer and, the worked-out shape, as described above, was more intense. So for the future, I will certainly implement regular rest days. Maybe even more than just one.
But, as I have read funny texts posted in a thread that was started by “Dino9X7”, I can say one thing: It is really difficult sometimes to convince yourself to take some days off. Somebody said: It is like convincing a smoker to stop smoking for some time. :-) After one day off your hands may already begin to shake. :-)

Thanks a lot for your attention. It was a hell a lot of text, but, today I have been in a kind of “oral fluency”.

Mig

Oooohhhh! It seems that text above was too long. Nobody has answered.

Just one question: Are there PEers out there who jelq every day for more than 30 or 45 min and have seen good gains? Because up till now we have always said that breaks are necessary for gains. Maybe some of you can tell us something different.

I remember a guy on the former ezboard forum, “Sizemeister”, who got great gains with full jelq routine with some days off.

Need a tip: Some of you often say that you should not measure so often your errect length. But what is with you flaccid? I mean, your flaccid length you see every day x-times. And if you see no changes here how do you want to see them in an erect status?
Maybe I should take a shower in the darkness. :-)

Hi Mig,

As for the jelqing questions, I can’t help, I tend to stick with about 20 minutes. I feel that this is about right, without overdoing it. I don’t really know is more is better in this situation, or whether there is a decrease in it’s value over time.

Originally Posted by Miggelodeon
Need a tip: Some of you often say that you should not measure so often your errect length. But what is with you flaccid? I mean, your flaccid length you see every day x-times. And if you see no changes here how do you want to see them in an erect status?
Maybe I should take a shower in the darkness. :-)

I think not measuring too often is a motivational issue. If you measure every day and don’t get any gains over two weeks you might think that nothing is happening and give up. If you measure once a month and all your gains come in that second fortnight then you will have a positive motivating force, measured gains.

As for measuring flaccid, I don’t know about you, but mine is a different size every time I look at it. If I want a measurement I’ll try and measure 4-5 times over the course of the day and take an average, or what I think it should be. I’m not too bothered about the accuracy of my flaccid measurements, since I know it varies so much. I don’t think you need to shower in the dark, unless every time you take a shower you bring your ruler with you!

Sorry about the big post, I have read it all again, but it is 00:35 in the morning here and my brain isn’t functioning well enough to take it in yet.

LB

Lorbase,

so I can assume that your gains came over night? After how many weeks / months?
And you are just doing 20 minutes a day?

It is often mentioned here on THunders that changing your routine might be very useful in order to “surprise” your dick and let “him” not adapt to a constant stress.
Question: Are there so many methods out there which allow you to change your routine so often? The only two parameters I can think about are Time and Intensity. But you can not go from a lot intensity to a lower one. I think.

Mig

anybody experienced a “penis shortening” or no gains in length due to jelqs??


Start (october 2010) : BPEL 18,5 cm ; EL 17,5 cm ; MSEG 13,75 cm ,BEG 14,25 cm ;FL 12 cm ; FG 10,75 cm ; BPFSL 18,5 cm

3 months later ( January 2011) : BPEL 19 cm ; EL 18 cm ; MSEG 14 cm ; BEG 14,5 cm FL (hard to say if it grows due to size shifting of the soft state.. The same as before or bigger!) ; FG 11 cm ; BPFSL 19 cm***all hard sizes taken @ my hardest and doing a kegel***Goal: cementing a round 18 x 14 hard coupled with a good EQ.

Smegma:

Sounds like fatigue and a drop in EQ due to over working. If this is happening to you, take some time off and reapproach PE with a lighter routine.

no sophomoric… no EQ loss.. my hardness is actually higer than my before…


Start (october 2010) : BPEL 18,5 cm ; EL 17,5 cm ; MSEG 13,75 cm ,BEG 14,25 cm ;FL 12 cm ; FG 10,75 cm ; BPFSL 18,5 cm

3 months later ( January 2011) : BPEL 19 cm ; EL 18 cm ; MSEG 14 cm ; BEG 14,5 cm FL (hard to say if it grows due to size shifting of the soft state.. The same as before or bigger!) ; FG 11 cm ; BPFSL 19 cm***all hard sizes taken @ my hardest and doing a kegel***Goal: cementing a round 18 x 14 hard coupled with a good EQ.

I’m also into exercise and while it doesn’t wholly translate to PE, I do apply some principles between the two.

What people who don’t exercise (weights and cardio) don’t realise is that the body grows during rest. The exercise you do “damages” the tissues and the body repairs in recovery. I apply this to PE to some degree. Indeed, doing more and more can become counter productive.

Rest is as important (along with good nutrition) as the exercises you do.

If you have genuinely hit a plateau there is also one harsh fact. Seen as no one has a 20” penis from PE, despite many being here for towards 5-10 years now, gains are not infinite. We will all hit a plateau and ultimately a situation where we can gain no more without risking major injury. There are many different techniques to try and so my personal view would be if you are jelqing for a long period (30m+) maybe you are doing too much or it may be worth looking at other methods.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

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